This team is so much more talented than RichRod's team's, yet is playing worse. It's incredible to see, honestly. COVID is tough and there's a lot of teams that aren't playing like they were expected, but that doesn't begin to explain just how this team could be this bad.
who would you want? This might sound silly but I would hate if Michigan got Scott satterfield, I think he would be a great hire
I think you’ll find that the next hire for UM (you could throw Nebraska, Texas, potentially PSU here as well) will be hard to get guys on the upswing to be interested. Guys like Satterfield who is paid well and has a dream job out there that is not named “Michigan” will have an easier time passing on what is cemented as a well-funded coaching graveyard UM is officially in Tennessee/Miami territory
This falls into the premise of the thread's title, but it wasn't that different coming out of 2014 when they hired Jim. The reasons he got the contract he got were 1. He could have gotten as much, probably more from an NFL team if Michigan didn't want him 2. The next guys on the list after him were people like Schiano, probably The list (if he's gone) probably starts with Matt Campbell because he checks the most boxes. If not him (for whatever reason) you're either praying you find a diamond with a mediocre resume like Satterfield or you're hiring a big name assistant and hoping he's the next Kirby Smart or something along those lines.
michigans greatest strength is money, the willingness to spend it hasn’t always been there though.....
Right but the bigger point I’m trying to make is that the perception will be “if Harbaugh/Frost/Herman couldn’t get it done at UM/UNL/UT, who can?” Those jobs are going to attract less consideration from tier 1 or even tier 2 candidates (ie Campbell, Cristobal, Fleck, et al) The mediocrity has been institutionalized
What you're describing isn't new. It's been going on for the better part of the last decade across CFB since the money spent on coaching started getting out of control. I don't think Harbaugh's inability to beat Ohio State is going to be the thing that stops Matt Campbell from going to Michigan if he decided he didn't want the job (if it opens).
Agree to disagree the CFP model has separated OSU so much from the rest of the pack in the B1G, hard to overstate the impact that has on UM, PSU and the recalibration of expectations Not a good situation for UM, PSU if either were hiring this offseason. Because that will be the measuring stick for UM, always But he might be able to settle into that Lloyd carr sweet spot where you’re competitive against OSU and you aren’t getting your doors blown off at home by a bad MSU team
His staff is scary, not sure he has recruiting upside. I have my doubts he’s a coach that would do more with more.
I like Campbell. I think he's the most obvious fit and probably the best candidate. But it's very reasonable to ask that question about his ability to recruit. Especially given the failures of RichRod and Hoke in those areas coming from situations that have some similarities to Campbell. Doesn't mean he can't do it. But I'd need to at least hear some specific stuff from him in the interview before I feel good about it.
feels like michigan should just ride out the next year with harbaugh instead of competing with texas in a coaching search tbh but then again i doubt texas seriously considers campbell either
it's obviously not going to happen, but i wonder how much it'd take for Urban to consider UM. $15M/yr?
The number doesn't exist. There's zero upside for Urban going to UM. And any amount of money UM offered would be matched or exceeded by Texas, anyway.
Seems like Mel's MO at this point. Win as the underdog and then hasn't been able to win the games he is supposed to. Was a trend out west last year as well.