Ooooff I don't know about the last part of that I also don't know if I can be any more excited for this
72% chance this is my all time favorite after the credits roll. This, is what I want going forward from comic films More Logan and less iron man
I'm with you on the more Logan and less Iron Man. Nothing wrong with the Marvel stuff its highly enjoyable. I just need some dark, gritty film to break up what we typically see.
At no time in my life will I stand and applaud something for 8 minutes. If someone were to save humankind from certain mass extinction I would clap a maximum of 2-3 minutes.
Dark, gritty stuff is good as long as they still care about plot and characters. DC's attempt at a cinematic universe failed in part because it focused so much on being dark and gritty that they seemed to forget that you still have to have a story that make sense, and the audience has to have a reason to care about the characters. Being dark and gritty just to be different from Marvel doesn't work. Not saying you're advocating that or anything. Just saying the people making the movies need to be a lot better than the recent DC attempt.
And Shazam just proved that every character doesn’t have to have this tone to be enjoyable and (gasp)successful. The tone of characters needs to weigh heavily on the movie maker.
I saw it in theater and remembering enjoying it but not as much as everyone itt seems to. I need to watch it a second time because it feels like a lot of people were just comparing it to other recent DC movies, which would prop up anything.
‘Joker’ Wins Golden Lion at Venice Film Festival, Roman Polanski Takes Runner-Up Prize Todd Phillips’ dark supervillain origin story “Joker” has come up trumps at the Venice Film Festival, taking the Golden Lion from a jury headed by Argentine auteur Lucrecia Martel. Controversial veteran Roman Polanski, meanwhile, took the runner-up Grand Jury Prize for his film “An Officer and a Spy,” capping a festival marked by debate over gender representation and the impact of #MeToo in the industry. It’s a rarity for a major Hollywood studio production to take the top prize at Venice, and unprecedented for a superhero-adjacent property to take any such honor, but the Warner Bros. title established itself early on as the festival’s lightning rod: a film that sparked headlines and critical discussion to the very end of the festival, as many other competing titles came and went without a ripple.
The rotten RT reviews were mainly plastering it being an ever dark, humiliating, deranged and non canon piece of film. Mainly edgy shit reviews. Give me dark and gritty all day.
https://www.indiewire.com/2019/09/joker-tiff-rave-reactions-oscar-buzz-1202172343/ ‘Joker’ Debuts at TIFF to More Rave Reactions and Soaring Oscar Buzz
Will spoiler if asked to “‘Joker’ doesn’t reinvent the comic book movie, but it’s certainly the scariest one — a taut psychological thriller with a few horror movie twists,” IndieWire chief critic Eric Kohn wrote after the film’s first TIFF screening. “Joaquin Phoenix, though, yikes: Looks like he stepped out of ‘The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari,’ or maybe he’s still trapped there. Astounding.”
Collider’s Perri Nemiroff hailed “Joker” as one of the “most unnerving” movies she has seen in years. “Joaquin Phoenix is astounding – the physicality of his work is especially impressive,” Nemiroff wrote. “It’s very well made across the board but I also found it very upsetting and right now I can’t shake that. Need to sit with this more.”
JOKER: Not your daddy’s #Joker movie. Riveting & engrossing, unnerving & disturbing, intense & very violent. A cross between Taxi Driver, King of Comedy & Network. #JoaquinPhoenix is haunting, very different from Jack & Heath. Need to stew on this one. #TIFF19 Hoooo boy I'm excited
I don’t think it failed because of the tone. It failed because they rushed it. They wanted to get to the big payday team up movie before they established the characters and get people invested in them. One of the reasons Avengers was so huge was because you had a bunch of stand alone character movies beforehand which established those characters, their back story, and overall got people invested in those characters so they didn’t have to do that in the team-up movie and people were already interested to see them on the screen together
It’s going to be one hell of a shit show if there is a mass shooting after this movie and the shooter says it was an influence.
it’s almost like there’s a reason these incels feel so empowered at the moment but i can’t quite put my finger on it
Just wanted to say that I rewatched Justice League today and it's incredibly uneven and Ben Affleck's Batman was horribly written