Joe Rogan Podcast discusion thread

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  1. theriner69er

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    No, I'm giving you a completely disingenuous response. This is what we do.

    We don't yet know how effective the human form it is against covid. We should cautiously, optimistically await results of clinical trials.
     
  2. IV

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    Regeneron was put forward as a treatment long before the vaccine if memory serves
     
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  3. IV

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    We do, it’s not.

    Thanks,
    Wayne
     
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  4. Redav

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    So was remdesivir
     
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  5. theriner69er

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    take your anti-science position back to your tRump rally!
     
  6. nexus

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    You should take a bunch of it and report back
     
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  7. a.tramp

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    This is a link to the manufacturer of Ivermectin. I am pretty sure they have a better grasp on what Ivermectin is used for than pretty much anybody. Here is there statement on Ivermectin. They are referring to the human version, not the horse paste so stop the he bullshit with your horse paste false flag argument you twat.

    https://www.merck.com/news/merck-statement-on-ivermectin-use-during-the-covid-19-pandemic/


    KENILWORTH, N.J., Feb. 4, 2021 – Merck (NYSE: MRK), known as MSD outside the United States and Canada, today affirmed its position regarding use of ivermectin during the COVID-19 pandemic. Company scientists continue to carefully examine the findings of all available and emerging studies of ivermectin for the treatment of COVID-19 for evidence of efficacy and safety. It is important to note that, to-date, our analysis has identified:

    • No scientific basis for a potential therapeutic effect against COVID-19 from pre-clinical studies;
    • No meaningful evidence for clinical activity or clinical efficacy in patients with COVID-19 disease, and;
    • A concerning lack of safety data in the majority of studies.
    We do not believe that the data available support the safety and efficacy of ivermectin beyond the doses and populations indicated in the regulatory agency-approved prescribing information.

    Indications and Usage for STROMECTOL® (ivermectin)

    Ivermectin is approved in the United States under the brand name STROMECTOL. STROMECTOL is indicated for the treatment of intestinal (i.e., nondisseminated) strongyloidiasis due to the nematode parasite Strongyloides stercoralis and for the treatment of onchocerciasis due to the nematode parasite Onchocerca volvulus.
     
  8. IV

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    Happy to read the peer-reviewed papers of scientifically sound studies funded by…. I guess people who don’t like the already available solutions for this problem
     
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  9. VaxRule

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  10. AbeFroman

    AbeFroman You touch me, I yell RAT!

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  11. Fabulousthundercock

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    Same.

    Also TikTok and that real world/road rules guy with the Mullet. I click not interested every time I see his face or hear his voice and I still get a tick tock of him talking twice a week.
     
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  12. Lyrtch

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    there are many many treatments for covid being studied all over the world right now outside of vaccines and that has been the case ever since covid started

    i'm confused at this narrative as i've seen it a lot, when it's not remotely true
     
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  13. Mr. Bean

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    Correct

    I was speaking in the past tense, including pre-vaccine, when therapeutics and masks/social distancing seemed to be at odds, when they shouldn’t have been

    One group (seemingly on the right) was pushing therapeutics and generic pharmaceuticals like hydroxy as an alternative to lockdowns and masks

    An opposing group (abstract, hard to define) didn’t seem to want to entertain those alternatives at all
     
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  14. Lyrtch

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    the consensus was we didn't have any evidence any of the available options worked during this time period, so pushing hydroxychloroquine in lieu of masking/distancing was lunacy. interesting they don't push that one anymore (it's because the conspiracy theorizing works better when people can just go to the local feed store vs having to beg for prescriptions)

    the ones we had that were likely to work, monoclonal antibody treatments, were not going to be widely available for a long long time so depending on them was also lunacy.

    giving the benefit of the doubt to that first group based on the evidence at hand is....interesting
     
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  15. theriner69er

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  16. Hoss Bonaventure

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    We all know those big pharma companies love not selling more of their drugs.
     
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  17. Mr. Bean

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    I for one still want further research on bleach injections and internal beams of UV light
     
  18. theriner69er

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    I'm currently working on a project where I have to provide power for a beam of UV light to be installed in the HVAC system. Amazing!

    Now if only we could somehow flood the body's ventilation system with that same UV light.....
     
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  19. Bo Pelinis

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    Need a cohort of people willing to drink bleach and sit on a light bulb STAT
     
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  20. Summa

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    I think it's important tease apart its use as a therapeutic from use as a prophylactic. I know vaccinated individuals who have procured it in the event they were to have a breakthrough case, and would treat with it at initial symptom onset. These are not RWNJ chud anti-vax/anti-mask spreadnecks, just folks who want to feel empowered in the event they get sick. I can understand why people who have gone to great lengths to protect themselves from covid through masking, distancing, and vaccination might want to throw the kitchen sink at it should they get it. While it very well may not provide any benefit, taking a dose or two of ivm isn't likely to harm them.

    Lumping these people in with the losers who refuse a free and efficacious vaccine (and who are harming society) and talking down to both camps seems like a misstep.
     
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  21. Bruce Wayne

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    So taking yesterday's BtB at face value, Rogan is at minimum getting a kickback from that FLCCC grifter to push Ivermectin on his show right?
     
  22. Killy Me Please

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    Haven't listened to Joe in probably a year or so. But twas once a fan. I don't know when his brain completely melted and he lost all common sense but this is just unreal.

    Where do I go to absolve my sins for supporting this charlatan.
     
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  23. theriner69er

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  24. Jay Jay Okocha

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    I couldn’t find it anywhere but I assume he was unvaccinated? Talk of him being a vaccine sceptic but I thought that was more in young people? At 54, he is a complete moron if not vaccinated.
     
  25. Fargin' Icehole

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    Dude literally used to believe in and chase Bigfoot.
     
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  26. theriner69er

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  27. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    Why stop at ivermectin? There's a never ending list of "treatments" with limited or altogether fictitious evidence, if we're somehow inexplicably willing to throw the kitchen sink at patients.

    Finasteride
    Spironolactone
    Singulair
    HCQ
    Famotidine
    Melatonin
    Luvox
    And many more!

    No one should be prescribing ivermectin for covid outside of a trial.
     
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  28. jbr

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    I got a lumbar ESI yesterday and made an ivermectin joke with the anesthesiologist. He said he gets serious requests everyday and it seems like a version of chasing prescription narcotics.
     
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  29. DUCKMOUTH

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    I mean if I had a lot of money, camping and searching for Bigfoot sounds like a blast.


    With that said, Rogan sucks. I used to enjoy the show and yes…. I will listen to a couple shows a year. The sleep episode is still one of the best informative podcast I’ve ever heard. He’s just too much now for me to enjoy.
     
  30. racer

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    Guys, he never had covid in the first place. The plan was to say he has it, say he took ivermectin, say it cured him.
     
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  31. BWC

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    As a (somewhat) bench science dweeb, you right. Fucking complex milieus
     
  32. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    And I want to clarify none of this intended as any sort of slight at benchwork, which should go without saying provides crucial groundwork for clinical investigation, in addition to its other essential purposes.

    General public just doesn't really appreciate that controllable, closed scientific vignettes in the lab rarely translate to the infinitely complex system of the human body
     
  33. theriner69er

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    I've heard this before, and appreciate the rarity of a drug that shows promise actually making its way to drugstore shelves. I think that's why when a drug shows even a hint of effectiveness in clinical trials, it's met with fanfare. it's fair to say the huge majority of drugs do not make it to that point, correct? I think, based on what I've seen (though it's not easy to parse through all of the info), ivermectin has shown *some* of that potential in clinical application.

    There was a comment along the lines of: it's an anti-parasitic, it's not going to help with covid!

    I responded with info about it being effective in inhibiting viral replication in vitro. Which is not to say YES it will 100% for sure help with covid. But is to say that just because it's an anti-parasitic does not mean there are not other features of this particular drug which could work in helping against covid, and there is at least some scientifically valid evidence that it could. As you said, the odds of that being true are slim. But there is at least science behind the idea, and it isn't randos in lab coats throwing shit against a wall to see what sticks, like, hey, here is an anti-parasitic, let' see if it helps (which seemed to be the implication of the comment I responded to).
     
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  34. BWC

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    Blame the biologists, not the engineers :awesomeface:
     
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  35. theriner69er

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    interesting perspective

     
  36. TrustyPatches

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    I like Russell Brand like maybe idk 22% of the time but sometimes he’s just trying too hard to be different.
     
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  37. steamengine

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    Today’s NYT daily is about how Loose Change ushered in our new two decade long conspiracy era.

    Their big moment was when Joe Rogan amplified it, of course.
     
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  38. og

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    see where it loses you is where the fun begins for people like me... we get it, he's dumb! no way!
     
  39. Truman

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    See, where it loses you is - When you have a huge following, being dumb about bigfoot or that caveman tripped on shrooms is harmless fun/entertaining. Being dumb and having psudeoscience conspiracist about vaccines or race theory or what they're really teaching in school is reckless and dangerous.

    IDK why this is such a difficult concept
     
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  40. pnk$krtcrÿnästÿ

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    lol U mad?

    og stuck in a time void where it's still 2007
     
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  41. og

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    dude why do you care so much about other people? they have been dumb for thousands of years before you and joe. I think we will survive.
     
  42. Redav

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    "Why do you care about other people" :laugh:
     
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  43. og

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    oh yeah I forgot how lame this website is that bought a hooker for a poster and has death celebration threads about people not vaxed are really on the moral high ground here
     
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  44. Truman

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    Youre right. I keep on forgetting we all live in individual bubbles and others actions have no impact on me or society.
     
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  45. Redav

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    I'm just glad you concentrated the ethos so succinctly. It's refreshing when most who engage try to avoid saying it out loud
     
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  46. og

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    hide in a hole then no one will notice
     
  47. Truman

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    your mom would miss me too much
     
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  48. og

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    whoa damn bro I guess I got shut down!

    edit: loser
     
  49. Degausser

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    Sex worker*
     
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