Just because you don’t like the truth doesn’t mean it isn’t the truth. Very Trumpian of you to claim “fake news!” People aren’t just born inherently anti-vaxx. They become that way when people that they respect tell them they should be.
I mean we are all going to die, so why not just murder people and use that as a defense? Fucking hell people
The “fat slobs” take from the same people that were probably bitching about “death panels” during Obamacare are pretty rich…..
Yup can't change. I'm still the right wing, college conservative i was years ago. Definitely didn't change at all since I've joined this site...
What's trumpian? How is it calling it 'fake news' that your stupid claim that Rogan has a body count to go with his anti vax comments. You sound ridiculous.
What? Are you kidding? Where is your source that confirms healthy young adults died from covid for taking rogans advice. Because you can find clips of him telling over weight and old people to get vaxx. I can't even believe in defending him vs you dopes.
Then don’t defend it? Literally anyone on the “don’t get vaccinated” or “do your own research” bandwagon that has a platform that reaches millions of people has the potential to have blood on his hands. It’s not that hard to understand.
So you’re just sticking with the idea that people form opinions independent of the information they consume? And you think I’m the one that sounds ridiculous? It’s pathetic how some people can just stubbornly refuse to see the truth no matter how many people beat them in the face with it. Joe Rogan has a COVID body count. That’s a fact, no matter how much it hurts you to hear it.
Prove it then or STFU. You can't sit and rip him for lacking the receipts for his dumb claims and then blaim him for people dying with zero data.
Just like covid, Rogan's disinformation has an R0. Millions hear it. Then many of them post it on their timelines. Then their followers post the disinformation on their timelines. Etc. It's not that difficult to connect the dots between the chuds who have promoted vaccine skepticism and hundreds of thousands of excess deaths.
I always feel like you’ve been in a coma for five years and you’re coming here not realizing this board doesn’t do the cool dude bro stuff anymore. It’s sad. If your asking me if the CDC has a chart breaking down Covid deaths by podcast host, I doubt that chart exists. We’ve spent the past week explaining the correlation of Rogans listeners converting to right wing ideology because of his guests (Gavin McInnes said as much) but if you don’t see how listeners might not get vaccinated on his word and subsequently die or infect others because of it, you’re either dumb or, well, stupid.
Yes im in a coma because you guys are emotional wrecks who cant handle being called stupid for saying stupid things. God forbid your hot takes are fucking wrong. You can whine all you want but its not going to change anything. You can't prove theres a body count associated with Rogan's nonsensical Covid takes. Most of his fanbase albeit naive are likely healthy enough that wont kill them off. And again he's said multiple times that the sick obese and eldery should shelter and get vaxxed. So go find that unicorn that didnt fit that mold and died. Stop being so emotional. You're just piling on for the sake of piling on and its ridiculous.
Vaccines aren’t just for the people that take them, you sentient gym sock. Vaccines are a public health initiative to reduce virus transmission. By getting vaccinated, you not only protect yourself but the people you come into contact with. I can’t believe we’re this far k to this thing and we still have dipshits like you that need to have their hands held and walked through this very fucking basic science. It’s time to grow up, man.
Your dumb fucking arguments you’ve been making in this thread that telling young “healthy” men not to get vaccinated is fine and couldn’t possibly negatively impact a society.
Someone doesn’t understand how viruses or vaccines work, if you don’t think his unvaccinated listeners died or killed family members/friends/strangers.
i didnt say it was fine you illiterate twit. I said you cant find a body count associated with Rogans comments and its a disservice to this controversy as a whole. If you miserable twats are just going to say outlandish bullshit all the time in response to Rogan's comments youll lose the narrative. There isnt a need for hyperbole with Rogan. Just state provable facts and leave it as is. Going overboard and getting proven wrong by his supporters is just going to make people dig in more and take sides.
“Joe influences his listeners not to vaccinated. And sure some of those people got the virus. And yeah, they definitely passed those infections on to other people who ultimately died. But Joe doesn’t have a body count. That’s silly.” You’re fucking lost dude. Grow up.
Youre completely delusional if you think his fanbase, that didnt want to get vaccinated, wasnt posting on fb, twitter, etc etc, rambling about govt overreach fauci and false flags. These people are largely idiots who joined Rogan's side because they dont see themselves aligning with people that dont share other values with them. His comments on Covid just entrenched them together. If he was 100% for it i still dont buy vaxx rates going up because a large portion of his fanbase are lunatics and pick and prod the things theyll agree with him about. One of the most infuriating things Joe does is ramble about ideas liberal or right wing and then do a complete 180 a few guests later. Its almost impossible to gauge who would decide what and why and how because of his ridiculous takes. BTW You dont seem like you give a fuck about welcoming his followers back to civilization, mind you. Most you seem militant towards them for a variety of reasons (with merit). So stop acting like you even care that theres a body count. I dont. I dont give a flying fuck about any of them. Its almost self congratulatory that you guys act like you feel bad for some random strangers dying because their idiot Cousin came over for Thanksgiving and killed their Nanna.
“It’s everybody else’s fault - not the guy with 11 million listeners that will fight anyone and everyone on the internet if they dare question him.” Grow up. And also fuck you. I’ve spent my entire working career - in multiple jobs - trying to reduce the number of people that die. Assholes like you and Rogan encouraging more people to die are a big deal to me. I take it very personally. But I’m glad we’ve moved past the moronic “Joe doesn’t have a body count” argument and on to a “Joe’s body count is a good thing” argument. Progress I guess.
a dude who married one of my first girlfriends opened a float tank place that doubled as a Jujutsu studio back in like 2014.. it is really ridiculous to say that he didn't change vaccination attitudes and actions, not surprised the goalposts are being moved
Media personalities have no influence, says the guy melting down to defend a media personality's terrible statements.
Im just sad for those companies wasting all that money on celebrity spokespeople. That money could go to paying their workers (ok, CEOs) more money.
Killy Me Please if you don’t think joe’s covid misinformation is killing people, why do you think so many people are pissed off at him for it
Because he's an idiot that shouldnt be listened to when it comes to medicine and a lot of people are reposting the few videos with the quacks he had on his show. But he's also become a lightning rod because of how he reacted. So now theres a ton that are just jumping on the bandwagon because they dont want to be associated with ideas that he may have. Before Covid i gave up on him and his bullshit. And ive argued these points with vaxxed and unvaxxed friends who follow Rogan. He injects his ignorance into too many subjects and its impossible to take him seriously after countless times that hes backtracked or changed course. But its also hard for me to sit here and act like hes responsible for anything.
you've argued these points with people he's influenced and yet you can't understand why people think its irresponsible for him with his millions of listeners to keep influencing people against vaccines and his general covid misinformation thats hard to square
Because they are in an echo chamber. They arent leaving. They live there. They have a variety of other media to consume to confirm their ideology outside of Rogan. FFS They all fucking love Rhonda. If she fucking tells them about new data on and extract from Zanzibar that can increase protein synthesis in adults 40+ theyll be all of it. But the poor broad went on there and called Joe out on his Covid bullshit and they just fucking ignored her. You have to understand Bill Burr said it perfectly 'Im not going to sit here without a medical degree and have you sit here without a medical degree and tell people not to wear masks.' what did that do? Who the fuck knows. But i doubt his idiot fans who werent going to wear masks or get vaxxed changed their stance.
you seem to think its a binary situation when the obvious reality is people are littered across the spectrum of trust in rogan and covid skepticism
Now what if he told them all he should get vaccinated? You don’t think any of them would have done it? Really?
do you think his podcast, with its many wide ranging guests who were pro vaxxed, convinced followers to get vaxxed?
If he is so pro-vaccine why is he under attack for being anti-vaccine? I’m not going to go back and forth, but you’re a fool if you think Joe was consistently pro-vaccine that a portion of his listeners wouldn’t have listened. If he plays the music, some are going to dance.
Gary Cromie 1 month ago (edited) I have a lot of time for Rhonda Patrick but I am amazed at her attempt to underestimate vaccine side effects - to downplay them (all things considered). I am curious to know why she is so keen for everyone to be vaccinated and so sure that side effects are minimal. Jacob Marks 1 month ago She s on the take Billy P 1 month ago It's funny how that happens how most everyone loved Dr Rhonda up until she said something they didn't want her to. So did she really change, no, she just continues to talk facts...the only thing that changes is that some facts don't match what we want to hear so we tune them out...instead of questioning ourselves & our biases we start getting defensive. Gary Cromie 1 month ago Dude, that was a clownish response. I still like Rhonda Patrick. I am a subscriber to her site and she continues to enthrall me on all health matters. The fact that I am concerned about what can only be described as an incoherent response to some of Joe's questions, does not mean I am living in a bubble nor that I am tuning out to her message. That is an infantile interpretation of my post. Dare I suggest you grow up and take your newly woke crusade elsewhere. mojoesixpack 1 month ago She simply factually, accurately, pointed out how rare those side effects are, based on available data. Billy P 1 month ago @Gary Cromie lmao. Anybody who subscribes to her should know she is purely analytical and follows the data. If you feel she is underestimating something it's because you feel it, and her data doesn't give a fk about your feelings on the matter. Only the bubble people think cutting thru the bs & politics to focus on the data is woke. Gary Cromie 1 month ago Data is GOD. LMAO. You are one naive clown, Billy-boy. Run along now . . . Kalash Nikov 1 month ago Because of data. Alex 1 month ago She is a quack. Repeating a script given to her from above. She knows nothing about virology and immunology Billy P 1 month ago @Alex Joe rogans the expert lmao Alex 1 month ago @Billy P I didn't say that. IQs are remarkably low these days. 5 REPLY
Not supporting the original argument, but the same source those who claim Rogan has bodies use - statistical probability.
I don't fully disagree with you about audience capture effects but thinking it is all inclusive is wild.