June 6th, 1944

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  1. ARSENAL

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    Always a great day to watch Band of Brothers. Or other WWII videos
     
  2. Buster 5000

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    Having a baby today. Might have to name him Norman.

    :americafuckyeah:

    *wife is actually birthing the child, not me
     
  3. ARSENAL

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    17 and 18 year old kids. Kids

     
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  4. seanofthedead86

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    Today's youth will never know what it's like to get blown up on a beach in Europe and it shows.
     
  5. Name P. Redacted

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  6. GoS

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    Why not both.gif.USA.edu
     
  7. Thoros of Beer

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    Why would anyone wait until 35 to get into WWII
     
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  8. Drown ‘Em

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    Gotta add the middle initial. Norman D. Buster 5000
     
  9. Buster 5000

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    I like it. Wife’s maiden name is Day so we’ve definitely got something to work with here.
     
  10. Redav

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    There's are the two paths. Not mutually exclusive with getting really into beer or really into bourbon
     
  11. jbr

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    This is not an “or” situation.

    Source: my midsection and liver.
     
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  12. TC

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  13. Hoss Bonaventure

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    It’s a good day for a birthday.
     
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  14. Drown ‘Em

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    Hell, Day works great. Norman Day is how Forrest Gump would pronounce Normandy.

    edit: Congrats by the way. My best wishes for good health for both mom and baby.
     
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  15. War Grundle

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    Haha I read it in his accent.
     
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  16. AptosDuck

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    I celebrate June 4 instead

    Midway Day
     
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  17. Drown ‘Em

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    Because… after Midway victory in the Pacific was inevitable based on the Japanese naval losses?
     
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  18. AptosDuck

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    Because it was the most decisive 15 minutes in American military history. Success on D-Day was a foregone conclusion. Not so at Midway
     
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  19. BrickTamland

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    Remember there being a new Midway movie a few years back but hearing little to nothing about it. Such a fascinating story that turned that theatre, always wondered why it wasn’t given a good script and production.
     
  20. AptosDuck

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    It was a shit movie, an overpriced remake of the 1975 version

    Still waiting for a good script for Leyte and the Battle off Samar, but that was a really complicated dance with several naval groups on both sides
     
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  21. Drown ‘Em

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    Well, it would have likely been decisive the other way had we not intercepted Japanese plans for an attack and baited them into confirming their planned attack on Midway, allowing us to move our carriers out of the way and to spring a trap on Japan when they attacked. So really, probably the dates which decided Midway weren’t when it was fought.
     
  22. Tarpon Nole

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    yes, but didn’t we also luck into spotting the Japanese fleet?

    also, the US navy got wrecked that day. We really only were able to recover because of resources at home to build more carriers quickly. Otherwise, the Japanese fleet was actually better off after midway than the US fleet, though it could not recover from the losses like we could
     
  23. Drown ‘Em

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    I mean we were looking for them, so in a way it’s lucky to spot them. But it wasn’t by accident.

    I guess my point is that, while Japan still had a larger naval force, the US after Midway had a comparable carrier force in the Pacific, sinking 4 of the 6 Japanese carriers in the Pacific. That and holding Midway allowed us to ramp up production and overtake Japanese naval superiority. But that only happened because of setting the trap before the battle.
     
  24. TC

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    Roger Sterling would show up drunk to work today :americafuckyeah:
     
  25. Hoss Bonaventure

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    What is everyone watching today? I can’t decide what movie/show to start and have the day off
     
  26. AptosDuck

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  27. yaywaffles

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    yeah you only need to be like 18 to join the army
     
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  29. Line 4 Guy

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    You are going to have to explain this to me. We sank 4 of their carriers and we lost 1.
     
  30. Tarpon Nole

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    right. But japans two best carriers weren’t there and the US also lost one at Coral Sea (Japan lost some then as well)

    but at the point in time after midway, Japan could still put together a better fleet of carriers than the US could. The wasp was brought over from the Atlantic to give the us only 3 fleet carriers in the pacific (enterprise and I can’t remember the other)

    I’m sure we had way more escort carriers but we lost a ton of planes at midway

    Guadalcanal lost wasp and the other one I can’t think of and think enterprise was badly hit as well

    think we borrowed one from the UK?

    we pumped out a bunch after midway and like I said were able to replace planes and more importantly pilots which Japan could not

    *I could easily have some of these ship names mixed up and the battles where lost mixed up
     
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  31. Tarpon Nole

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    Hornet is the other. Think it was actually the last one ever sunk
     
  32. Drown ‘Em

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  33. CUAngler

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    lexington is the one you are missing

    we pretty much wiped out all of japans aviators at midway. They couldn’t mount any sustainable offense/defense with what they had left after that.

    japan also didn’t plan for a long term war and it showed with how they rotated their carrier air wings. We rolled in fresh pilots and sent our vets back home to train the new crops on a frequent basis. Japan kept its vets in rotation (rip) and didn’t sufficiently train their replacements. The collapse of the Japanese air wings and pilots at midway was probably a bigger loss than their carriers .

    One could also argue that us holding the line at Guadalcanal was more decisive for the longs term prospects of the war than midway.
     
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  34. Popovio

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    I used to watch "The Longest Day" every June 6th; great movie. Then I grew up and started working full time. Now I get to experience the longest day every time I'm at work.
     
  35. ARSENAL

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    Saving Private Ryan is on Netflix.
     
  36. ARSENAL

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    The pacific ep. 1&2 are a great show of how much the marines endured on Guadalcanal
     
  37. Tarpon Nole

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    lexington was lost at coral sea

    hornet is the one I couldn’t remember
     
  38. El Tiburon

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    Coincidentally I happened to be at Patriots Point yesterday with the wife and kids and we were in the USS Laffey (as well as the carrier). Laffey was involved in the storming of Utah Beach. I didn’t even put together that yesterday was June 6th until I read this thread because I’m on vacation and time doesn’t matter.
     
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  39. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Never seen it
     
  40. Drown ‘Em

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    And the Yorktown was the carrier sunk at Midway. Good job bringing the conversation full circle.
     
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  41. hudson

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