By restricting carbs to under ~25g/day, after a period of usually 3 days, your body will enter Ketosis and will no longer be burning carbs but ketones as it's main source of fuel. It has a lot of similarities with the first stage of Atkins but you are changing the chemistry of how your body fuels itself, burning fat instead of glucose. Be careful with squash, those carbs add up quick
google is a lying bitch then I read something about butternut squash being like 8 net carbs for a serving also this soup looks like it's tasty af https://ketologic.com/recipe/butternut-squash-soup/
I thought it was closer to ten, but that's still a lot for one side when you're talking about keeping it under 20 for a day.
oh I was thinking of just making the soup as a meal. if it was a side dish then yeah i'd absolutely agree
You can eat whatever you want as long as you keep your net carbs under ~20. With that said, it's pretty difficult to do that if you're eating bread, pasta, and fries.
im going to ask my RN/CHC on staff and let you know what she says about the hypoglycemia specifically. she’s not a physician but trained in stuff like this and has helped me set up my keto stuff i do know that cutting out all sugars and artificial sweeteners is a good start. strict keto <20g will probably be advised, as keto is great for all sorts of glycemic conditions
I've been off the wagon for a month or two, but after starting in February I lost 47 pounds, and I haven't put it back on. Just skimming this thread, so it may have been covered- if you're eating too much protein, it will convert to sugar. Keto is ideally very high fat, moderate protein and very low carbs. You have to be careful going full carnivore because it's too much protein. Cheese and avocados have been my best friends. Since I work nights, I also did IF. There is a ton of science supporting the benefits of fasting. It feels like worlds colliding, but here is a link to the message board that I came over from. Lots of good info in this thread. Be wary, tho- the moderation is way more strict than what you all have here. https://forums.footballguys.com/forum/topic/756652-keto-ii/
here’s her response: “I don’t know too many specifics with regards to hypoglycemic issues. I think he might be able to transition into it but at a slower pace as he may be more sensitive with the carb burning vs fat burning process. If he’s considering it, please encourage him to do some research on it first to be sure that he can do it safely.” she’s pretty careful so she wouldn’t advise anything if she wasn’t sure. i’d seek out a dietician that has specifically dealt with diabetes and glycemic conditions. don’t ask your doctor unless it’s an endo, pcp’s typically have no idea
The IF sounds really weird. Seems like something you shouldn’t try until you’re living that full keto life.
Protein is a goal. Try to hit it every day Carbs are a limit. Try to not go over Fat is to keep you filling full. If you’re a bigger person like me, you don’t need to eat a huge amount of fat, your body has plenty of it to burn for energy.
They probably have a better idea than some mommy blogger... I can't get behind telling somebody to not ask their doctor.
That's not really true. For a true keto diet, you have a protein limit, and stored fat =/= consumed fat. Too much protein can take you out of ketosis.
i literally suggested a dietician or an endocrinologist. 99% of primary care doctors know very little about stuff like this
They way you phrased it sounded like you were differentiating "limit" and "goal." Protein is an acceptable range. And, you need to be consuming a higher percentage of fat to stay in ketosis regardless of whether or not you're a "bigger" guy.
I'm going to need to see a cite on that. Regardless, it's a good idea for him to talk to the person who has treated him for the hypoglycemia.
I just realized all I needed to change to be on an IF 8/16 schedule was remove the half and half from my coffee in the AM. My diet is pretty close to Keto now, but going to make that small change first and see how I feel before jumping in to the other side.
which was probably an endo i work in healthcare and own a clinic, i know how most doctors think. i deal with them all the time thankfully some (typically the functional ones) are adjusting. most aren’t just because of their contracts with insurance companies, which is just absurd
16/8 is the most common, and 8 hour window is typically the max. my window is usually right around 6-8 hours OMAD is popular too
Whatever works. I work 12+ hrs a night of pretty physical labor and I'll eat in the hours before I leave. I came to 'IF' from yogic thought, which in addition to basically promoting one meal a day (more or less) says our digestion mimics the suns strength i.e. eat when the sun is up, but that isn't necessary so long as you're maintaining some sort of window I enjoy not being so tethered to eating. Enjoy not having to take food to work to get me through. Imo once people do IF for a bit it can give them confidence into other food related ventures
I haven’t had my sugar tested since I was a kid. (Drank the syrup and blood drawn every hour for like 4 hours) I don’t know the exact results but the physician said “it was the lowest he’d ever seen”. Going to make an appointment with an endo and get retested. Also messaged a dietician friend to get some input. I really appreciate all the responses. Throwing a 50 burger in TMB coffers for the effort also since it’s a day of giving and what not and I haven’t donated in awhile.
The IF seems like it would be tough at first. I get super hangry but I’m guessing that could be due to insulin spikes from all the carbs I eat. I pretty much carbo load every day and it’s fully caught up to me and my health is not good. I basically don’t have a choice whether or not to change my diet, might as well change it right. Was waiting for the wife to have our kid, and I’m tempted to wait until after Christmas which is always a booze and food fest. How hard is it to restart when you kick yourself out?
Is this a safe plan: Liquid: Water or vodka/wine Meat: All meats. Veggie: All except carrot, potato, onions. Fruits: Only berries. Snacks: Avocado, nuts, and cheese
The hungry thing is going to happen with almost any diet and it blows. Everyone gets through it and it take your body 5-10 days I would say, to fully adjust. I would recommend getting something you can crush every night until that subsides. For some it's water, some it's just more compliant food. When I did the W30 it was carrots, like a bag a night. For this diet carrots is not what you want to use but definitely recommend making it a vegetable, because if you go over that's the best possible sugar to put into your body. I realize it's not "the process" here, but you might want to ramp up until you get over that urge, then hit it hard core if that is an issue for you. I don't know if I could have ever got into ketosis right out of the gate if this was the first diet I had attempted.
If you want to stay in Ketosis, you should track your meals for a while to get a feel for caloric, carb and protein intake. There is a simple calcutor to get all those macros. https://keto-calculator.ankerl.com Someone posted the spreadsheet from r/keto. Save that to your phone and print out a copy and put in a drawer in your kitchen. Consult before shopping and eventually you'll know what you can/can't eat and what you need to budget your day around carb wise. Some veggies are relatively carb heavy and can sneaky knock you out of Ketosis. Berries can add up quick, too so make sure you know how many you're eating. Some meats have fillers and marinades that have sugar. Just read labels and keep under 20g/day.
Also, I frequently see people messing up net carbs when I recommend the diet. You can't eat a carb heavy food and then a bunch of broccoli or something with a lot of fiber to negate all those carbs. Net carbs is fiber subracted from carbs in a particular food.
its really not that hard at all, you get used to it really quickly. you're eating the same amount of food as normal, just in a smaller window. so you still feel satisfied at the end of the day, and throughout the morning
speaking about the IF specifically. not sure about how easy it is to throw yourself back into ketosis, but i would imagine it's just as hard as the first time once your body tastes that sweet glycogen
I can’t speak for everybody else, but it also helps with my anxiety & depression. When I go on reddit, I see people post that it helps them too.
A lot of doctors still advise wheat bread, fruit juice etc to someone with diabetes......no wonder diabetes numbers keep skyrocketing
Let's see, meals over a 7 hour period. That means 17 hours no food *Checks notes* Yep that's IF alright
Was just listening to a podcast with Valter Longo where he was saying he’d recommend 12/12, and studies show that avoiding breakfast leads to more heart disease. It was an older podcast so possibly science has changed.
There is going to be a doctor or a study to fit any narrative you want. This is very interesting though. This Dr. says benefits are overstated but has been been doing 22:2 for the better part of 5 years.
I liked IF but got turned off by that paper dalalsdawg posted awhile back in the lifting thread that shows drops in testosterone after a couple months of doing it