Lakers - Mamba Forever 8/24

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  1. Ok
     
  2. MODEVIL

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    When you’ve seen them win 5 titles in your adult life, you have a little different perspective.
     
  3. Cheshire Bridge

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    Lol that's rich
     
  4. MODEVIL

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    All those Falcons and Hawks titles must be glorious.
     
  5. Cheshire Bridge

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    You sound like my post above hurt your feelings. Want a hug?
     
  6. MODEVIL

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  7. MODEVIL

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    It didn’t hurt my feelings....at all.

    Just a little friendly shit talking on a Saturday night.
     
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  8. Buster Mahomes

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    Boogie and LeBron make it happen.
     
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  9. Shawn Hunter

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    You basically just said you'd rather lose than win.
     
  10. Yes, that is exactly what I said
     
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  11. Well I was looking forward to us just losing but I will accept Lebron I guess. *SHRUG*~~~~~
     
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  12. MODEVIL

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    The Lance Stephenson signing is weird. KCP is the new JR Smith?
     
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  13. fish

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    Huge Laker fan my whole life. Ready to witness the greatness that LBJ will restore.

    Who's our coach?
     
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  14. MODEVIL

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  16. MODEVIL

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    I’m probably not getting in off the waitlist for season tickets this year.
     
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  17. $P1

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    From one of the guys on LG:

    Lakers Current Cap Math Post-Lebron/KCP Signings

    $35,654,150......LeBron James (1)
    $18,000,000......Luol Deng (2)
    $12,447,727......Julius Randle - cap hold (3)
    $12,000,000......Kentavious Caldwell-Pope (4)
    $7,461,960........Lonzo Ball (5)
    $5,757,120........Brandon Ingram (6)
    $1,761,987........Moritz Wagner (7)
    $1,689,840........Kyle Kuzma (8)
    $1,655,160........Josh Hart (9)
    $1,544,951...…...Ivica Zubac (10)
    $838,464...........Min Salary (11)
    $838,464...........Min Salary (12)
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    $99,649,823

    $101,869,000 (Cap) - $99,649,823 (Salaries) = $2,219,177 cap space left*

    *Lakers have committed to JaVale McGee for a Vet. Minimum Deal and Lance Stephenson for $4.3 million (via the room exception), which will be added AFTER the Lakers exhaust their cap space.

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    Math and Rules to Sign Kawhi to Max Next Summer (After Keeping Randle)

    To keep Randle and have enough max space next summer, we first need to dump Deng without any money coming back and, in the meantime, we can't sign Randle to a deal of anything more than say 4 years, $54 million this summer. Here's the math -

    $37,430,000......LeBron James (1)
    $32,700,000......Kawhi Leonard (2)
    $13,000,000......Julius Randle (3)
    $8,719,320........Lonzo Ball (4)
    $7,265,485........Brandon Ingram (5)
    $2,164,680........Moritz Wagner (6)
    $1,974,600........Kyle Kuzma (7)
    $1,934,160........Josh Hart (8)
    $897,158...........Min Salary (9)
    $897,158...........Min Salary (10)
    $897,158...........Min Salary (11)
    $897,158...........Min Salary (12)
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    $108,776,877

    $109,000,000 (Cap) - $108,776,877 (Salaries) = $223,123 cap space left
     
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  18. Shawn Hunter

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    Did the rookie salary increase this year? Wagner making more than Kuzma when Kuzma was a higher draft pick last year.

    And it looks like it will be impossible for them to get three max guys as FAs without getting rid of Randle, Ball, and Ingram next summer. Or am I reading shit wrong?
     
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  19. $P1

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    Leonard is in the next year list already.

    They need to offload Deng as an expiring and get Randle to come in under the # above
     
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  20. Shawn Hunter

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    Yes, I know. But in that list, there is less than a million left in cap room with only 8 players signed. That's obviously not enough money left to go get a third max-contract level player.
     
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  21. Arkadin

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    Kuzma wasn't a higher pick
     
  22. $P1

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    Sorry, misunderstood...yeah signing two max guys next summer is basically impossible
     
  23. Pharoh

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    I’m stoked that a Julius Randle return is possible.
     
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  24. MODEVIL

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    Randle probably going to take the QO and be unrestricted next year.
     
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  25. MODEVIL

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    Randle renounced....must have something bigger coming so Lakers sign Rondo. Weird team construction going on.
     
  26. Pharoh

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    Well damn
     
  27. fish

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    Lonzo Ball making 16 million over the next two years is incredible.
     
  28. ZeroPointZero

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    seems like they are punting next season
     
  29. Pharoh

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    We should be pretty solid on d next year imo
     
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  30. ZeroPointZero

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  31. ZeroPointZero

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    #Kansas Jayhawks fans can you tell us more about this 3 point specialist? He's looked great in Summer League
     
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    He was pretty hyped coming out of Ukraine and it took him a while to live up to his potential but he got there.

    Still needs some work on ball handling and not falling asleep on d but he can shoot and is tall enough to get over NBA defenders.

    He's also like a full year younger than normal college seniors so he still probably has room to develop.
     
  33. MtOread

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    I don’t think he’ll ever be more than average on defense, and his wingspan is a couple inches shorter than his height. By the end of his career at KU he was a terrific outside shooter, especially from the corners. He’s got a decent handle and is a good passer as well. He’s still young and has a chance to grow into a reliable if undersized wing off the bench. I hope he’s one of LeBron’s catch and shoot options in a couple years.
     
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  34. snowfx2

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    All aboard the Svi train
     
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  35. wstrojan

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    Same. Love this dude.
     
  36. snowfx2

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    His scoring off the dribble has been the biggest surprise. This was nice.

     
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    Maybe it was because he deferred to our ball dominant guards of the past years but that was the most ISO scoring Svi has ever had in a game over the last 4 years.
     
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  38. Shawn Hunter

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    Already getting that NBA travel whistle
     
  39. Pharoh

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    Svi was filthy last night
     
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  40. Homo Erectus

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    I think Svi is a steal in 2nd round and can develop into a solid bench player.

    NBA spacing will be his friend if everyone sags on Lebron and gives him time to pull the trigger.

    He just turned 21 yrs old in June and has improved each year we've seen him.

    If he had redshirted as a 17 yr old freshman he would be blowing up next year like Graham/Mason did their senior seasons.
     
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  41. Pharoh

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    Has anyone drafted better than the Lakers the last few years? Feel like we hit on everyone
     
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  42. MODEVIL

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    Lonzo? I wouldn’t call that a hit but I haven’t given up on him.
     
  43. TheoB

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    Its really been excellent. Since 2014, I only see Anthony Brown as being a dud. But he was a second rounder. Thomas Bryant maybe but I think he'll have a role on a new team, Lakers just no longer had room for him. Bonga, we'll see if that project works out. Also as far as second rounders go, I consider a "hit" being solid role player.

    Julius Randle
    Jordan Clarkson
    Dangelo Russell
    Larry Nance
    Anthony Brown
    Brandon Ingram
    Ivica Zubac
    Lonzo Ball
    Kyle Kuzma
    Josh Hart
    Thomas Bryant
    Moritz Wagner
    Isaac Bonga
    Svi
     
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  44. Shawn Hunter

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    Zubac still has a lot to prove
     
  45. $P1

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    Cap Space Math to Sign Kawhi (after Deng Dump or Stretch) in Summer 2019
    The only way to trade for Kawhi right now is to include at least $16.1m in salary. We cannot use any of the free agents we signed (Rondo, Stephenson or McGee) in a trade until after December 12, 2018. We cannot use KCP in a trade because he has a 1 year deal (after extending with the Lakers), making it so he has a no trade clause.

    To sign Kawhi next summer of 2019, we will need to either dump Deng or stretch him. If we stretch him, we'll need to rescind all of our rights/cap holds for our FAs. Here is the math -

    $37,430,000......LeBron James (1)
    $32,700,000......Kawhi Leonard (2)
    $8,719,320........Lonzo Ball (3)
    $7,265,485........Brandon Ingram (4)
    $2,164,680........Moritz Wagner (5)
    $1,974,600........Kyle Kuzma (6)
    $1,934,160........Josh Hart (7)
    $1,550,000...…...Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk (8)
    $1,416,852........Isaac Bonga (9)
    $897,158...........Min Salary (10)
    $897,158...........Min Salary (11)
    $897,158...........Min Salary (12)
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    $97,846,571

    $6,200,000........Luol Deng (1 year $18.8m Stretched)
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    $104,046,571

    Deng Dump: $109,000,000 (Cap) - $97,846,571 (Salaries) = $11,153,429 cap space left
    Deng Stretch: $109,000,000 (Cap) - $104,046,571 (Salaries) = $4,953,429 cap space left
     
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  46. MODEVIL

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    Beasley? WTF
     
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    The Beas is solid
     
  48. TheoB

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    He was actually really good last year. I dig it
     
  49. Buster Mahomes

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    Showtime is back
     
  50. MODEVIL

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    The Los Angeles Lakers greatly appreciate your desire to become a Season Ticket Member. Due to the unwavering support of our current Season Ticket Members, we were unable to accommodate your request to purchase season seats for the 2018-2019 NBA Season. A 99% season ticket renewal rate this year did not leave us with enough available seats to offer all our fans on the wait list.

    no surprise. I moved up 100 spots on the list.
     
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