Lane Kiffin to Ole Miss

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  1. Snakes

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    and he uh, didn't kill his own player.
     
  2. Futureman

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    Uh yeah. I’ll take a guy who has put up top 5-10 defenses almost every year for a decade please.

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    2019- #7 total D/ #19 scoring D
    2018- #2 total D/ #16 scoring D
    2017- #3 total D/ #13 scoring D
    2016- #1 total D/ #2 scoring D

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    2015- #1 total D/ #4 scoring D
    2014- #11 total D/#21 scoring D

    UCONN
    2012- #9 total D/ #20 scoring D
     
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  3. MG2

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    Brown is a terrific DC. He's also given up 118 points to OSU the last two seasons. From the UM perspective, that's kind of a big deal and makes the discussion somewhat complicated.
     
  4. pez

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    he is the epitome of the Harbaugh era. His tenure is defined by a single game, despite any other numbers. And that game has not gone well.
     
  5. gowolverines8

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    Brown can be stubborn but he's still an elite dc. Its nearly impossible to stop elite offenses in this day and age and even more difficult to when you have average at best dts.
     
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  6. Futureman

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    Honestly thought I was going to get a bunch of well actuallys from the Michigan posters but all those posts were reasonable and understandable
     
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  7. pez

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    I think there’s some room to discuss his defenses v elite teams as opposed to the rest of the schedule. But even the more analytical numbers like S&P still hold him up. There’s a lot to like about him. There’s also a lot that’s frustrating.

    but at the end of the day he’s a very good to great DC
     
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  8. pez

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    Mich people saying Partridge and Durkin will be announced as Co-DCs
     
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  9. Jack Parkman

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    At ole miss?
     
  10. pez

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    At Oregon

    what thread is this Jack?
     
  11. Jack Parkman

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    Michigan people part threw me off
     
  12. gowolverines8

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    UM people also say partridge has been told he will be the play caller.
     
  13. momux

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    That would be pretty nice for OM.
     
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    All knowing Michigan insiders >
     
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  16. Jack Parkman

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    I can remember the shit storm saban got when durkin observed a Bama practice and there were rumors he’d be apart of his support staff

    interesting to see if kiffin gets the same or if time has healed those wounds
     
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  18. Bo Pelinis

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    Lane's a lovable degenerate so I doubt he'll get the same sort of heat.
     
  19. gowolverines8

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    I wish um administration and Harbaugh had the balls to hire Tosh Lupoi as partridges replacement but they dont.
     
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    Ole Miss making recruiting inroads to NJ?
     
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  21. MG2

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    Happy for Partridge and hope he does really well there. With his recruiting record pretty much everywhere UM has sent him and his experience in different roles at UM, he could get a HC job within 2 years if he does well as a DC.
     
  22. Pelican Grove

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    Is Durkin the coach who had a player die on him at practice?
     
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  23. LuPoor

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    Yeah, he killed a kid
     
  24. Bo Pelinis

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    Yeah. Of heat exhaustion. And iirc they left him on the sidelines without medical attention for some long span, like 45 minutes to an hour, before sending him to the hospital.
     
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  25. wes tegg

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    Anxiously awaiting Wolken and Forde’s responses.
     
  26. Gaknight

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    Durkin in the Southern humidity? Yikes
     
  27. Futureman

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    He coached in Gainesville for 4 years. He'll live.
     
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  28. Boo MFer!

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    Let’s hope we can say the same for his players.
     
  29. BudKilmer

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    Durkin fucking sucks

    love Partridge though
     
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  30. Futureman

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    LMBO. I really put that on a tee didn't I.
     
  31. Snakes

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    In all seriousness it seems like Durkin was really reckless with the young man's health, but I highly doubt he's the first guy to run a program like that. He got his punishment and I don't think he deserves a lifetime ban from the sport.
     
  32. RavenNole

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    Ole Miss looks to be all in once again
     
  33. CUgator

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    just needs to add his brother to the staff, fresh off his show cause.
     
  34. RavenNole

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    probably bring him in for a year or 2 in an off the field role before promoting him.
     
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  35. MG2

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    I'm forgetting parts of the Durkin stuff at Maryland. Was he at the workout when the kid died? Or was it "he hired the guy who ran the workout and is responsible for it"? I would never hire him either way, but I can at least see an argument for a second chance if it was the latter.
     
  36. RavenNole

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    things came out after that made the culture there look really bad. If you are running a win at all costs program and your S&C/medical staff fuck up in dramatic fashion that likely contributed to the death of a player, you are fucked. I think the player never got the proper care and he might have been saved if they did they right things which makes it much worse than just a freak death.
     
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  37. Futureman

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    The fact that Maryland fired him without cause tells me there wasn't enough tying him directly to the kids death to feel like firing him with cause would hold up in civil court. When something like that happens the coach always accountable since its his program. I think they had to fire him based on the findings showing the strength coach was clearly allowed to be a meathead hardo for years without being reigned in and the training staff didn't remotely do their job to recognize how dire the kids situation was. Fair or unfair the buck stops with the head coach in that situation. But its not like Durkin was calling the kid a pussy for not finishing drills. Maryland's report basically said he was aware that the kid was overheated but it was being handled by the training staff. I imagine that happens all the time at every school. Ole Miss had a kid die in the same situation in 2011 but the training staff followed the correct protocols.

    He's going to have to live with that forever and he's going to have to answer for it to recruits Mamas anytime he's in their living room. I hope he's forthright and contrite about it and doesn't make excuses. That will go a long way to restoring his image and help if he ever wants to be a head coach again.
     
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  38. wes tegg

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    The players also hated him.
     
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  39. Celemo

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    plus he ran a dirty casino and beat up the Rock
     
  40. Futureman

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    The independent report Maryland had done essentially said that had the training staff followed protocols and put him in an ice bath to get his temperature down he probably would have lived. Instead they kept him out on the field in the sun and he just kept getting worse. Maryland admitted fault based on the training staff not following the protocols but cleared Durkin of any wrongdoing. Him letting the strength coach be an asshole for years led to what was reported by ESPN as a toxic culture though the Maryland report said that didn't appear to be the case. We vetted him hard and reached out to former players at Maryland and administration at Maryland. Apparently they all thought he deserved a second chance.
     
  41. GrizzliesDrew

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    Talking points got out fast.
     
  42. gowolverines8

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    I'll be interested what durkins recruiting is like after the incident. IMO he's always been more recruiter than coach, he was meh as dc at UM and the position he coached was the weak link(lbs) of the defense .
     
  43. Jake Scott

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    Like what he’s doing with this staff a lot
     
  44. pez

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    Brian Kelly killed a kid (at least one) too, so falling back to a DC position seems fair

    sure not as much of a fall from a scissor lift but still a fall
     
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    Futureman might lowkey be the biggest homer on the board. If he reads it on an Ole Miss board, it's 100% fact.
     
  46. wes tegg

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    glass houses, big guy.
     
  47. GrizzliesDrew

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    I imagine it won’t be THAT hard to recruit against him.

    https://es.pn/2B0DqTN
     
  48. MG2

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    Michigan was a top 10 defense in 2015 according to S&P, total D and scoring D. His position group was the weakest because the talent he inherited was worse than the other position groups. Durkin was a good DC at Michigan. No clue what he'll do now in that division after he killed a guy, but I don't get where you come up with your talking points.
     
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  49. Jack Parkman

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    Durkin was a pretty good coach and recruiter at UF