when the people who decide who plays and who doesn't are holding these gatherings in their homes, the difference is negligible have you watched this show? because they conducted an awkward joint prayer with an opposing team in the middle of the field after a game
The Lord's Prayer happens at like every football game in the south once you get to high school. Youre making way too much out of the coach holding a Bible study. Why should he not be allowed to do that? That doesn't make any sense.
That wasn't what I was talking about and that was pretty clear. I was talking about the posts that were clearly objecting to the show producing the episode they did. You can think public colleges shouldn't employ people who advocate religious belief. Its perfectly legal, the SC has made that clear. But you're certainly free to oppose it even if I think that's silly.
This was common at most public HS's in Massachusetts in the mid-90's. I'd imagine coaches leading prayer is common practice across the country.
'my mode' while advocating you're completely right to oppose a voluntary Bible study hosted by like the only local adults in these kids lives I'm not religious and frankly think religion in today's society is mostly stupid and bullshit. But I can not find any fault with people who want to better themselves by going to Bible study or a man who is willing to spend his time to host it
Based on my experience, the vast vast majority of high schools say the Lord's Prayer before a game. That's why its always news when some coach gets in trouble for doing it (which happens about once a year). The praying after practice thing is not something I've ever seen until this show. Edit: And when I say the vast, vast majority of schools I mean I've never heard specifically about another school not doing it.
It was pretty common place where I went to HS in Baton Rouge (We were not a religious affiliated private school). As time has gone on, I find it pretty strange that this is allowed at public institutions.
I never put that argument forth, I made an observation from what I've seen and experienced in my lifetime. Certainly if someone really wanted to put the money out to challenge this practice by a public school they would have a decent chance to succeed. Although I believe some states, Texas is coming to mind, have had courts okay this practice. Even as an atheist, I find this practice to be fairly innocuous, and bringing such a case forward would be a huge waste of the limited financial resources most schools have.
Being upset that the OC is having a bible study at his home for a bunch kids that need some direction in their lives is a bit outlandish. If you have a problem with that, that's on you. That is your insecurities and problems with religion creeping in. I commend that man for taking the time out of his day to try to help some kids that need it. And like others have said, it's a documentary, they are simply filming.
You have to have be a legitimate retard to not get in a Mississippi public university. After the Ayers vs Fordice case, all 8 IHL schools (governing body of MS public universites) have the same admission standards for MS residents. It's something like a 16 ACT/2.5 GPA to get in if you're a resident. The individual schools have more of a say when it comes to non-resident students. I think Ole Miss has attempted to raise the requirements for non-residents in recent years so they won't be overrun by Atlanta and Dallas suburbanites.
Holy fuck, in Massachusetts those grades have you taking remedial classes at Community Colleges. The only state school you might get into would be Bridgewater State. That actually reminds me of Vermont. For in state people, any idiot usually gets in to UVM. Out of state, it's like a public Ivy
Why does it bother some of you so much about them praying? Blows my mind that people are legit annoyed and upset by this
It doesn't matter if its a publicly funded school or not. Public college employees aren't required to refrain from proselytizing like high school employees are. The logic (whether I agree with it or not) behind preventing a high school teacher from preaching about Jesus Christ is that minors are easily influenced and may feel compelled to participate in something they don't want to. The Court said that doesn't extend to colleges because those students are adults and they are supposed to be mature enough to decide for themselves whether they want to participate or not. If you just have a personal problem with a coach leading Bible study that's one thing, but there's nothing about it that comes close to violating any sort of law. I also, absent any evidence, I think its kind of ridiculous to assume that the coaches determine playing time by whether a player attends Bible study or not. I've known some very religious coaches. Every one of them would take an atheist WR who makes plays over a super Christian one that doesn't.
As you can see by reading my post im not infering any legal issues at all. Also not citing influence on playing time. So i dont know who you are talking to but it really cant be me
Many states do allow by law for public schools to offer World Religion courses. Unfortunately, this almost always leads to some bitch preaching Jesus and trashing other religions, so most school districts don't allow these classes, but legally they can.
I took one my sophomore year of high school. The teacher, never told us but likely some type of Protestant, was actually fairly level in covering all of the major religions.
I scoffed at how transparently fake the grand showing of religion was at times, but also appreciated the oc's study group for what I viewed were obviously voluntary sessions. That's about how much the religious aspects in this show affected me
I'm not particularly bothered by it but it makes you think about how any non-believing/other religion players feel/would feel about forced prayer sessions on their public school football team.
Only since the 1950's as a response to the godless commies https://www.britannica.com/event/Pledge-of-Allegiance-to-the-Flag-of-the-United-States-of-America "In 1954, at President Dwight D. Eisenhower’s urging, the Congress legislated that “under God” be added"
What's funny is Buddy's worried about cursing when its the mishandling of head injuries that's going to get him fired.
This is the most dysfunctional shit I've ever seen. It's so fun to watch. Also I wouldn't follow Buddy into a free whorehouse.
He's guaranteed a 200 yard game against Texas Tech so I would say his chances at taking home the aware are solid
Went back and watched the very first episode of season 1 last night. It started with former players talking about EMCC and how much they like it and are appreciative of Buddy. Quite the change in tone when they interviewed former players in season 2.
Just finished Season 2...A few random thoughts, nothing really new or earth shattering. -I can't believe how much of an ass Buddy is. I don't know if I didn't remember it from the previous season, but I hope that guy burns to the ground. It's one thing to preach reform and not swearing as much, etc, but he only made 1 episode of the push-up thing. He obviously was just saying something to appease his family or whoever else had a problem with it on T.V. His treatment of Marcus in the last episode made me almost sick to my stomach. The guy is trying to avoid a penalty and was (or may not have been) wrong. All Buddy preaches is pick your teammates up, etc, play for each other...I guess if you want to disrespect and be hard on these kids (some of them deserve it) that's fine, but to be such a dick with the ex-wife comment to a grown man and a member of your staff? Seriously, Fuck that guy. -Kam is equally unlikeable. Every scene he is either stretching, falling asleep, or just looking like he doesn't care at all. And dumbass Buddy runs over to him and coddles him, doing the exact same thing he preaches to his team to not do. All that was said about Isaiah Wright in contrast with Kam was miserable. Yeah, Wright doesn't handle things well but damn, some of the petty stuff he got on him for, I think most of us would blow up too. At the end when Wright talked about knowing his players and given the background of so many foster homes with no real authoritative figure, it's no wonder he doesn't know how to handle it. Buddy has to do a helleva lot better learning things like that instead of putting the biggest lipper known to man in his mouth. The DL coach and Miss Wags save the show. Both seem like genuine people in a tough situation but are trying to make the most of it. I thought it was cool bringing the coach back to that place where he won his first ring and that whole thing leading the team out was pretty cool (and cheesy, but I liked it.) The first season was great TV, this season just left me wishing some of these assholes got put in their place, including the coaches (and player's mom's.) Finally, Lion man rules all.
That's what I did. I don't even know the Lord's Prayer but I just took a knee and waited it out the dozens and dozens of times it took place
Sweet, they're not covering EMCC in season 3. Spoiler I guess... Spoiler Season 3 will cover Independence CC in Kansas City. Notable transfer this upcoming season being = Malik Henry. Garden City turned down the offer for the show.
Two questions: 1-Does the producer have a hardon for former FSU QBs? 2-WTF does FSU have so many QBs transfer to JUCOs?
Idk, all 3 have been for different reasons. Coincidence? look forward to watching him though, so far we're like 1 for 2, Franklin was a shit head but Johnson seemed like a good kid.
Kinda wish season 3 was back at EMCC just because you know a 3rd season of cameras would send Buddy over the edge. I want nothing more than his firing documented for the world to see.
Making it a three season series with the end being the utter destruction of the EMCC program would have been entertaining.
Franklin was a wr we took at qb who refused to convert once on campus. Johnson punched a girl. Henry really likes the way cocaine smells
Having the opportunity to watch Jeff Fisher get fired is the only reason I watched the Rams All or Nothing.
You really think that school is in the business of having players flunk out? C'mon, they know who they're admitting.
Poor use of words on my part. I was thinking more along the line of remaining eligible to play. They portrayed her as someone that kept certain players from becoming ineligible by forcing them to attend class and do assignments. Regardless of who they admit, they have to show up and do something (albeit minimal) to be able to play
In my mind there is zero chance anyone watching this show would want to go play for him. Hoping all these families watch it and when their kid screws up and has to go JUCO, they don't give them the time of day. Seriously tho, no Miss Wagner and Buddy still there....With no Netflix show in the future, there is no way this helps with their recruiting, right?