Lawn care?

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  1. Russellin4885

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    Does anyone know what this is? It has invaded part of my yard. It sends out runners like a warm season grass, was thinking maybe bermuda but it doesn't really look like it. Thought it might be a weed so sprayed it with 2-4d and that didn't kill it so makes me think it's some kind of grass. Not the best picture but under me holding it you can see it on the ground as well. Also I live in North Carolina with a zoysia lawn.
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  2. HatterasJack

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    Anyone every dealt with spittlebugs in their yard? Had a nasty infestation (yard guy said they flew up like a cloud when he mowed), then spray company fucked up and took almost a week to come out and spray. Still seeing some spit bubble clusters in some places. Are they really hard to kill off? Need another round of treatment I am guessing? They only really fucked up part of the side yard, but worried they might be prolific breeders and stick around.
     
  3. One Two

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    Probably Johnson Grass or some other wild grass variety.

    As far as getting rid of it I'll defer to others.
     
  4. Russellin4885

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    It's not a big area at all, maybe 300 square feet, and my zoysia coverage there was shit anyway. Might just blast it with glyphosate next spring and start it over.
     
  5. Baron

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    Anybody know what this is and how to get rid of it? Looks like ground ivy too me based no google search. If I am getting my lawn treated by a professional, this shouldn't be popping up I wouldn't think?
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  6. lechnerd

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  7. MORBO!

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    Somebody get this kid a fucking tutor.

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  8. Doug

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    My dad would not have paid me an allowance if our yard looked that piss poor. Do better kid.
     
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  9. MORBO!

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    If I was going to be cutting the Rose Garden lawn, I would have been practicing for weeks to make sure I get that shit pristine. I'd be cutting a fucking bald eagle emblem into that lawn.
     
  10. Baron

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    let alone cut it at the proper height. smdh.
     
  11. Baseballman86

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    Should I be applying weed and feed or any other fertilizer-like feed in early fall, like right now? I'm in GA with Bermuda grass. Feel like I've seen conflicting information on that.
     
  12. Russellin4885

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    No, I wouldn't fertilize a warm season grass this late in the season. Too much risk of getting a frost and having your grass go into dormacy while growth still being pushed from nitrogen. You could put down a preemergent (I use prodiamine) for winter weeds. Here in central NC it's right about now for timing of that so I would imagine Georgia is maybe a week or two later. Personally, I'm skipping that this year and just going to spot spray them as I see them.
     
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  13. One Two

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    image.png Thinking about putting down more Kentucky 31 fescue seed this weekend but worried it might be too cool next week?
     
  14. lechnerd

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    Anyone have experience with the new Bermuda Tif Tuf? Supposed to be very drought and shade tolerant. I've got someone offering $100/pallet right now. I don’t know if this is a poor timing choice to put it down right now.
     
  15. THE GUBBS

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    ignore.
     
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  16. ramszoolander

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    I hope this works out ok for you (hadn't been in here for a while): I had a great first year for my fescue here, but after that, it's been terrible. That said, I have a really shady yard that is pretty rocky (despite topsoil additions, it just churns up, it seems). Keep us posted either way. I did Rebels Shade blend 75% and the regular Rebels 25%. The dry fall last year didn't help things!
     
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  17. Russellin4885

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    Saturday noticed an area of my yard was looking a little different. Probably only something I would notice, was just looking off in color but wasn't browning or anything. By Sunday afternoon though it had almost completely browned and yesterday afternoon looked like this: (nails in the ground are to mark and track it)
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    Think it's some kind of fungus, maybe brown patch? I have dealt with similar in the front yard, but nothing that exploded that quickly. Hit it with propiconazole, so hopefully if that is what it was I stopped any further damage.

    Anyone seen anything similar or think it could be something else?
     
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  18. PCH

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    Call the professionals....its only $30-40and you wouldn't have to worry about improperly diagnosing it and spending $50+ in buying the wrong products....
     
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  19. Russellin4885

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    Yea, but I've done 1,000 hours of yard renovations and all that zoysia is from seed. I already have most of the products anyway since I do all my yard care myself. What I am mostly saying is my ego would take a pretty big hit to call the pros. If it gets any worse though I will call them because if it's not a fungus problem then I have no idea what it could be.
     
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  20. PCH

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    Haha got it. That's really impressive from seed. How long did that take?
     
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  21. Dukes

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    What’s the weather been like? Definitely looks like a fungus.
     
  22. Russellin4885

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    3 summers ago I did the back yard. You can see in the pictures that I have some sonar sonic poles in the ground around the perimeter. The back yard would have been almost perfect (except for my new problem) but I had a mole issue the last two summers. All the bare spots are where my dogs dug up trying to get the little fucker/fuckers and haven't filled back in. I tried about everything to get rid of them but was hesitant to try the sonic things because I was worried they might bother my dogs. They have worked great though so far and my dogs don't mind at all, wish I had put them in last year.
     
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  23. Russellin4885

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    Hard to believe it but this is the before picture:
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  24. Russellin4885

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    Raleigh, NC so pretty typical this time of year, hot and humid. It has been pretty dry the last 3 weeks though but.....I was having a outdoor party this past weekend and the yard was getting pretty dry and I wanted it to look nice. Due to timing if I wanted to get some water down I had to do it late afternoon. Funny thing is, right before I turned the sprinklers on I thought to myself how it wasn't very smart and could cause issues, but I've never had any fungus problems in the backyard other than a little rust in the fall....whoops
     
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  26. infected donkey

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    Had the mole problem a couple years ago,talked to the golf course greenskeeper and he said to use this, haven’t had a problem since. Now if you get armadillos in your yard. T’s&P’s
     
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  27. Lucky24Seven

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    I’d give that a 5-10% chance of being a fungus. IMO, that too much in a linear, tight pattern to be a Biotic stress. Looks like something else. To me, it looks like it got dry due to sprinkler heads not being adjusted and opened all the way. I am talking about the area next to the rail road ties. I’d need a better picture of the larger area. Also, Brown Patch is a patch disease and there are no “frog eye” symptoms in that area. It’s completly “browned out”.
     
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  28. Russellin4885

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    Not what I'm wanting to hear. I'll get better pictures tonight. I just don't know what else it could be, it browned that fast in under 2 days. It's not a water issue, that I am confident of, the big brown area got a good 1/2 inch plus from an impact sprinkler the day before this started.
     
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  29. Russellin4885

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    If it's not a water issue, which I am very confident it is not, what would be your guess? It almost looks and was as fast as it was like I sprayed it with glyphosate but that can't be it either. I'm pretty careful with keeping my mixers separate and the only spraying I have done recently is some spot spraying for crab grass, which wasn't even in that area.
     
  30. Room 15

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    Lawn terrorism IMO
     
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  31. infected donkey

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    crabgrass spray could have gotten on something you drug across the yard.:huh:
     
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  32. Long Ball Larry

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    Looks like your wife spilled Roundup and didn’t tell you.
     
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  33. infected donkey

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    I'm about to have to bust out the good stuff, MSMA for my yard, err I mean right of way.
     
  34. Lucky24Seven

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    Russellin4885

    Right off the bat I can tell you it’s not Brown Patch or any Patch related fungus. This is an area of Summer Patch on a fairway. Patch diseases grow in a circular pattern outward. This in your yard looks like defined areas along the railroad ties and the “burned” area by the shed.

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    I know Brown Patch and Summer Patch are different, but they act in similar ways. Also, Brown Patch is due to turf being wet for extended periods of time. There is also no “Frog Eye” appearance like the first pic in the spoiler. You will have a circle of green grass surrounded by a brown circle and the grass will slowly die on the inside as the fungus moves out.

    Out of curiosity, is that “burned” area up front about the width of a spray from your application device? What kind of party set up did you have in your back yard? The large area in the back could be due to your yard being stressed out from being dry and being in a high traffic area (table and chairs, volley ball, etc). I really think the area upfront could be due to some sort of chemical use. I see a can of Off in the foreground... I’ve seen that stuff burn my tees when people apply it. Kids could have been spraying bugs with it around there.

    TL:DR Def not Brown Patch. Probably just stressed from being dry and the people using the yard during the party. I’d blast those areas with water and report back.
     
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  35. Nole96SC

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    You looked for Chinch bugs in it yet?
     
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  36. Russellin4885

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    I did, never had a problem before. Put down some seven earlier this year. It’s very weird and I have no idea what it is. The color and shape doesn’t seem like brown patch or anything similar. It hasn’t gotten any worse and actually has already started to recover. Here are some close up pictures of the blades
     

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  37. Lucky24Seven

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    Just saw this pic. It's good that the tips are just burned. Should come back in no time.
     
  38. Nole96SC

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    Damn that's a mystery. The big patch in the middle is really odd but that smaller strip along the boarder is what made me think chinch bugs. Its almost like it got brushed with roundup or something. Atleast it wasn't to the roots and its coming back.
     
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  39. Duck70

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    Herbicide imo.

    Were you spraying the gravel on the other side of the wood? Could have had an overspray once and caused the tops to die off your grass.
     
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  40. Russellin4885

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    It's truly a mystery. I was spraying the gravel recently with glyphosate but I'm really careful and there is no way I had that much over spray. We had a backyard party last weekend with a bunch of kids and put some slip-in-slides and other things in the yard. That was the area so I would chalk it up to some weird chemical on the plastic that burnt the tips but that doesn't explain the area that runs along the retaining wall (and it's not in the picture but keeps going down a concrete area, so basically runs the whole border). I guess I'll probably never know.
     
  41. Pharm

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    St. Augustine tips? New build, sodded 3 months ago. Green for the most part with brown patches. Appears it's about to start growing now that it is warming up
     
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  42. Russellin4885

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    What zone are you?
     
  43. Lucky24Seven

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    Recent temps? Probably need the soil to warm up a bit before you see anything take off.
     
  44. Pharm

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    its been in the 60s to 70s for a few weeks now here in florida.

    I was just told i likely needed to add some sort of fertilizer to it, didnt know i neeeded to have someone take a soil sample or what.
     
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  45. Lucky24Seven

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    Grab some starter fert and get an application down. Get a formulation like this: 8-25-x. The Potassium doesnt really matter at this point. Once your turf is established bump up the Nitrogen. P2O5 is relatively immobile in soil and N will do the trick. Don’t want too much N or you can burn the turf. Or get something that’s not Ammonium based Nitrogen. Shouldn’t need a soil sample.
     
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  46. bigred77

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    I usually fertilize my st Augustine with Scott's southern lawn stuff this time of year
    Not sure if it should be something different for new sod or not

    Lots of water seems to be key for mine too, it will choke out just about any weeds itself as long as it has plenty of water
     
  47. MORBO!

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    Good luck killing it. I feel like it’s impossible.
     
  48. thunderstruck

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    Finally had some decent weather yesterday. I got out sprayed the front yard with 2-4-D to get rid of some clover that has popped up.



    Tried to upload a pic of my mower and sprayer set up but I keep getting an error for file size.
     
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  49. Dukes

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    I want to put some granular pre-emergent down this year but am cautious given I have a small dog. Anyone have success using something that is pet friendly? I’ve read about corn gluten meal but seems to have mixed results.
     
  50. bigred77

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    Corn gluten meal has worked wonders getting rid of grass burrs in my extra lot