Lawn care?

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  1. infected donkey

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    This is what i used to get rid of the moles in my yard. They were eating the grubs and what not and when you kill the food supply they move. They went and destroyed my neighbors yards. Took about a week and they moved out[​IMG]
     
  2. Baron

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    Any of you guys try this stuff before? I have a few spots along the driveway i'd like to get filled in and this looks to be pretty good.
     
  3. Lucky24Seven

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    I’m more of a seed and organic guy. With these products I’m concerned where the roots are growing. In the soil or in the mat? Could lead to problems.
     
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  4. The Hebrew Husker

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    I spent my whole weekend trying to rip up a bunch of bullshit from the previous owner. If the seed doesn’t come in before winter, I’ll be asking for Astroturf suggestions next year.
     
  5. Baron

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    Good point, I hadn't thought of that. Any seed you recommend? I'm in Ohio, so some type of fescue blend I'd assume.
     
  6. Lucky24Seven

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    Missed your window, maybe. End of August is best time to seed. Please excuse the photo, I have the camera that photographed big foot, but this was seeded and mowed within 3 weeks. Couple thousand sq feet.

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    Probably did the project for no more than $20
     
  7. The Hebrew Husker

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    Damn, looks good.

    The type of grass I got is supposed to germinate within 2 weeks or less, so the guy at the sod store said I should be fine. I know I’m pushing it, but had to wait for the roundup to kill all the prior weeds/crab grass, and also didn’t want to risk it when it was like 95 degrees a couple weeks back. (Of course it’s supposed to be 90 tomorrow so...)
     
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  8. The Hebrew Husker

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    What was your watering schedule on this? Did you plant from scratch?
     
  9. Lucky24Seven

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    Plant from bare soil. Went over the area with a shepherd’s foot roller for a seed bed. Seeded, and covered with a tarp to control wash out and birds. Watered 3 min in the AM, once before noon, once around 4:00, and then the nightly irrigation. A good rule of thumb with seeding: give it some water even if you just watered it. Just don’t flood it.

    Edit: Tarps removed after 2 weeks and aired out for a week before the mow.
     
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  10. Lucky24Seven

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    100% depends on your patience. Most of the quick sprouting stuff has a lot of Perennial Rye in it. Be patient with Bluegrass mixes. For true Bluegrass seed, you need at a minimum of 21 days to germinate. A lot of people give up before then and attribute it to a bad product. If you have a lot of trees, get something with fescues and rye, open areas you can getaway with more bluegrass since it is a shit turf in the shade.
     
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  11. Lucky24Seven

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    Also best rule of thumb for seeding. “Seed to Soil Contact” after you finish planting your seed bed, compact it. Those seeds aren’t going to grow in an open, airy turf. The winds will blow the seedlings away.
     
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  12. The Hebrew Husker

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    Sounds good, that’s what my plan is and has been since putting it down Friday. Got what appears to be a lot of rain overnight, so hoping the peat moss I put on top is doing it’s job.

    But overall figured on dry days I’d water a few mins before work, come home at lunch and water, then after before bed.

    Since this area originally wasn’t grass my sprinkler system doesn’t hit this area unfortunately, so a lot of manual watering until I can get a new sprinkler head installed.
     
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  13. Baron

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    are you putting down peat moss instead of straw or both?
     
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  14. The Hebrew Husker

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    Just peat moss. The dude at the grass store suggested it.
     
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  15. The Hebrew Husker

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    My goal is to at least get some grass established before winter, then I might consider another layer of overseed in early spring, or for sure next fall and just hope it thickens up as time goes by.

    Was depressing when I was in the process of doing all this and my neighbor told me how nice the yard looked before the previous owner neglected it.
     
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  16. Randy Bobandi

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    Stuff worked pretty great. All my crabgrass, clover and nutsedge is dead and white. Grass wasn’t affected. Takes like a week to kill though.

    Also, my lawn looks like trash at the moment because I had to add a sprinkler zone and bury lines for my sheds. Aerating and seeding this weekend, fertilizing later.
     
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  17. Toast

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    Nice lawn.
     
  18. Baron

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    Link?
     
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  19. Randy Bobandi

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  20. Randy Bobandi

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    If you mix and spray that shit wear gloves. I forgot and got dye all over my hands. Looked like I jerked off smurf village for 2 days.
     
  21. Lucky24Seven

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    Clover is an indicator weed. Since it can fix Nitrogen from the air, you know spots in your yard that have clover are low in Nitrogen.

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  22. The Hebrew Husker

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    I’m sure it has to do with keeping the seed constantly damp/moist, but I feel like this peat moss has basically just packed down onto my dirt. How fucked up is my grass about to be?
     
  23. Lucky24Seven

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    Should be alright. But really depends on how much peat moss you put down. Might be a little tougher to get seed established since the increase in moisture could lead to disease such as gray leaf spot, but in the long run you’ll be fine. I add peat moss to my garden and that soil is fine.
     
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  24. Lucky24Seven

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    Seed Bags I have had luck with using:

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    Taking out the Rye to seed a spot right now. The Blue/Rye is awesome if you have the time to let the Blue establish.
     
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  25. The Hebrew Husker

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    Sounds good. Like I posted before, basically this was about a 500ish sq ft area that I assume was a garden two owners ago. Guy who lived there before me basically just left it to goto shit so it was overrun with weeds and crab grass. Plus there was a grinded down tree stump too.

    Over the summer I ripped out all the landscape liner, and wood borders that were there, dug out as much as the grinded wood as possible. Sprayed round up concentrate all over it to start from scratch.

    Last weekend I put as much fresh top soil down as possible, laid the seed and some starter fertilizer and layered over with peat moss (probably about as much as the bag suggested).

    Honestly, if it even grows in 50% I’ll be happy with it, I already plan on over seeding my whole yard every year.
     
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  26. The Hebrew Husker

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    Do you guys overseed in fall only?

    I’m going to throw down a pre emergent next spring so assume that’ll stunt any new seed I’d throw down.
     
  27. Lucky24Seven

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    I over seed in the fall. The springs in Northern Indiana have too much variance for me to try and time a Spring seed with the summer annual weed control.
     
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  28. Randy Bobandi

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    I got 100lbs of Jonathan Green Black Beauty. No clue what the mix is but I’ve heard good stuff.
     
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  29. Pharm

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    I dislike st. Augustine grass very much
     
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  30. bigred77

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    Why?
     
  31. Pharm

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    May just be me or the they way the sod was laid. There are huge spots where grass just doesn't grow, it doesn't handle my dogs running on it well, not growing evenly. I'm pretty sure it's mostly shitty sod and base soil layer job but the grass in back yard looks like shit. I paid someone to spray for weeds, fertilize etc and i still have crab grass and broad leafs.
     
  32. bigred77

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    Hmm
    My st Augustine is great, as long as it gets plenty of water it does a great job choking out anything else, even crabgrass though it does seem to have a harder time over taking crabgrass than anything else
    It may have something to do with your native soil and weather too
     
  33. Pharm

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    Soil is Sandy as shit
     
  34. Louis Holth

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    I’m very dumb about my lawn. It’s become overtaken in many, many areas with crab grass. What’s my best bet at this point? Begin killing sections of the lawns and reseeding? Help
     
  35. bigred77

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    Probably part of the problem, sandy = drains water fast = will need lots and lots of water
     
  36. The Hebrew Husker

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    About a week out from laying the grass seed. Starting to see some blades of grass sprouting up in some areas.
     
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  37. Joystick Izzy

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    Time to seed is entirely dependent on location. It’s still 95 in Nashville, so I probably won’t be overseeding until the end of September.

    Whether to overseed in fall or spring also depends entirely on whether you are using a cool-season grass (fall) or warm-season (spring)
     
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  38. Randy Bobandi

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    Spread 2 cubic yards of topsoil to level some bumps (probably need 3-5 more in spring). Currently aerating and I’ll be seeding until well after dark. I’m not doing shit tomorrow.
     
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  39. Lucky24Seven

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    Agree with Joystick Izzy My pointers and time frames deal with stuff growing north of the transition zone.
     
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  40. The Hebrew Husker

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    With the new grass at what point do I transition to a more normal watering schedule, or at least just once a day type watering?

    With overseeding when can I back off watering and begin to mow/treat my lawn like normal.

    So many different opinions online