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  1. Gallant Knight

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    We use oasis. They’re easy to deal with from my perspective as I just have one point of contact there and she always is available

    Amazing how many of my clients need $600
     
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  2. RJF-GUMP

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    Got pissed yesterday. Dude borrows money from oasis. Then a few weeks later I get a fax from the chiro saying he only went to a few sessions and missed all follow ups. Try to get a hold of client to tell him to get his ass to chiro. He is AWOL.
     
  3. Gallant Knight

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    Sounds like it’s oasis problem and not yours
     
  4. Gallant Knight

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    billboard lawyer who has 30 staff and refers out every single lit case got a case where lady had an accident and miscarriage. refers case out. that lawyer says he cant do anything about the miscarraige because its just a fetus

    (3) "Death" includes, for an individual who is an unborn child, the failure to be born alive.

    read the wrongful death statute dumbass.
     
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  5. colonel_forbin

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    It'd be pretty cool to get a few large qui tam cases on a contingency fee and have the government take over. I'd like that.
     
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  6. Nug

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    That and whistle blower money. I'd out a corporation in a second./
     
  7. colonel_forbin

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    My buddy works for the DoD as basically a venture capitalist to find and fund projects for the military. I'm constantly asking him to find me a case.
     
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  8. Nelson

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  9. Tiger Tiger Woods Y'all

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    Yeah it was founded by the oasis founder but is now ran by a new group.

    Why is that?

    If you were offered similar service but with a better schedule for the plaintiff would you make a switch?
     
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  10. Gallant Knight

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    I don’t really give a shit. Me fees stay the same
     
  11. Tiger Tiger Woods Y'all

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    Do they? If you have to take a reduction or are asking the pre set firm to do the same, wouldn’t you want the plaintiff to owe less?
     
  12. Gallant Knight

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    I wonder which industry you’re in
     
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  13. Sammy Meatballs

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    Because they’re all bottom feeding shitbags charging outrageous interest rates that ultimately, when I still practiced, made my job 100x harder.
     
  14. Gallant Knight

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    I have never reduced my fees because my client took out a loan that I advised them against and never will. And I reduce my fees a lot
     
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  15. Gallant Knight

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    Don’t get me wrong I would love to invest money in a scheme where I loaned people $600 and charged them a $100 service fee a $50 transfer fee and they owed me $1,000 if they paid me back the next day.
     
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  16. Tiger Tiger Woods Y'all

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    Agreed, understood.

    My point was back to my original question. If someone offered you a similar service to oasis with better rates wouldn’t that benefit your plaintiff/you when in the case of needing to ask the preset firm for a reduction you’re already starting with a smaller delta.

    Thinking it out, it may not matter in the end?
     
  17. Tiger Tiger Woods Y'all

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    I work in healthcare. I was engaged by my equity firm who is looking to possibly invest in the preset industry and i was trying to learn more from people who know than just google.
     
  18. Gallant Knight

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    It doesn’t affect me

    If you’re trying to market to plaintiff attorneys I wouldn’t market about your rates I would market about making the process for them as easy as possible

    At this point with oasis I can tell them about the case on the phone and they make the decision after a 90 sec d conversation and then I click a docusign thing and the whole process takes 3 minutes. When it comes time to pay them I can pretty much pay them what I want
     
  19. RJF-GUMP

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    no it's mine when a client stops treating and fucks up their case
     
  20. RJF-GUMP

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    i had to reduce my fees to 30% to make a 75k settlement work yesterday and might have to reduce even more
     
  21. Gallant Knight

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    Sounds like you made 22k so not a bad deal
     
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  22. Gallant Knight

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    and now the dude she referred it to just called me bitching at me for signing up the case and claims he did explain everything to her.

    $5,000 says the billboard lawyers staff and this dude's staff were the only ones to speak with this lady and now he's scrambling to cover his ass
     
  23. Nug

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    As I've mentioned before, over 50% of my workload is for a big stupid company that rhymes with EdFex. So much bureaucratic bullshit, and we can't wipe our own ass without approval from national counsel -- who takes forever to get back on anything. Both national counsel and the client require every request for mediation authority be confined to two pages, nothing more. No matter how convoluted the facts are, no matter how exorbitant the damages are, it cannot be more than two pages.

    We have a bad case with the venerable Karen Koehler (the awful Pltf attorney that got the Ride the Ducks verdict, had her own ridiculous website posted a few pages back). Admitted liability, we ran over a 60 year old pedestrian. Almost $1 million in medicals, $4.5 million life care plan. $13 million demand. (it would have been better if she had passed away---a brain dead pltf is always worth more than a dead pltf)

    Obviously, we request multiple millions in mediation authority. Our request was completely bare bones because of the fucking two page requirement. Just received a one line response: "we can't give you that much authority based on the limited information you provided." :bang:
     
  24. MORBO!

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    I don’t miss dealing with defense client “guidelines.”
     
  25. Tilly

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    Know that feeling to an extent. The general rule in SC limits you to 8 pages of affidavits at temporary hearings. You get 16 pages for "complex" cases which basically means anything hotly contested. So we normally submit 16 pages of affidavits and hundreds of pages of "exhibits" as well. No clue whether the judges actually look at it all, but the clients normally feel great about it.
     
  26. RJF-GUMP

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    affidavits about what? Are temporary hearings are wild west and you don't always get that much due process. There is no at length review of affidavits or evidence. THey are usually less than an hour.
     
  27. colonel_forbin

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    So he turned it down and now he's calling you? Why? How does he even know you're representing the client now?
     
  28. Tilly

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    At temporary hearings in SC (for those unfamiliar with the process, they essentially decide how custody and finances will work while the case is pending), you do not have to serve affidavits prior to the hearing. Pure trial by ambush and little if no chance to rebut evidence. Hearsay or other evidentiary objections matter, but not that much and normally there usually isn't time to realize you need to make the objections. There is normally also no meaningful discovery prior to these hearings, so you generally rely on what your client tells you and may or may not have any records to support or dispute allegations. The system ***definitely doesn't*** breed hyperbole or outlandish and unverified claims.

    But, bc of docketing issues (we would have multi-day temporary hearings with 50+ pages of affidavits from each side), most temporary hearings are by Supreme Court Order set for 15 minutes and there is an 8 page limit on affidavits you can submit to the court. If the case is complex or contested or the attorneys are normally long winded, you get 16 pages and 30 minutes.

    There are definitely due process concerns, but the general attitude among the bench and bar is you can fix it at a final hearing, so Yolo.

    Not a fan of the system, but makes things interesting
     
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  29. Gallant Knight

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    No he signed it up and either wasn’t aware he had a death case or told the client he couldn’t peruse it and now is pissed that I told the client we can and that he was fired
     
  30. colonel_forbin

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    Sucks to suck
     
  31. Gallant Knight

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    He is going to try to retain his full fee interest in the case. Can see this being a pain in the ass
     
  32. colonel_forbin

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    Does Texas not have quantum meruit for that? What all did he do on the case? Met with the client and sent a letter of representation?
     
  33. Gallant Knight

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    Yep that is all he did
     
  34. RJF-GUMP

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    sounds similar to ours but we don't do a bunch of affidavits
     
  35. RJF-GUMP

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    i have a whole bunch of research on that full fee v quantum meruit if you end up needing it. all MS research but may still be helpful
     
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  36. colonel_forbin

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    I'd tell him to kick rocks (as I'm sure you will also do). I'd love to hear his quantum meruit argument before a judge about how he's entitled to anything.
     
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  37. (Z)

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    After white collar crime with Bucy/Pierson that was my dream for years.
     
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  38. RJF-GUMP

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    had a failed mediation today. soft tissue case. got to 150k but needed more.
     
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  39. buy_dont_lease

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    Incredible that $150k “isn’t enough” to resolve a soft tissue injury, but here we are...
     
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  40. Tilly

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    Screw em! Hold out for more!
     
  41. Gallant Knight

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    Why wasn’t the $150k enough?
     
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  42. Gallant Knight

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    Plaintiff firm in Houston just *settled* an injury claim for ~$75 million

    That would be a fun check to get
     
  43. Tilly

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    The hell were the facts on that one? Fortune 500 company passed a board resolution to kill an employee and his family so they can continue to sell a defective product that pollutes city drinking water?
     
  44. buy_dont_lease

    buy_dont_lease Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
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    Had a mediation in Dallas a few weeks ago, the mediator told us he had multiple cases that have or imminently would settle for $20+ million, including one that he thought was poised to settle for $60 million. These were not single plaintiff cases mind you, but those numbers just boggle the mind as settlement values.
     
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  45. Gallant Knight

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    Apparently the plaintiff firms lifecare plan came back at 125 million and the defense life care plan came back over $90 million. That was an oh fuck moment for them

    Young oilfield worker with wife and three kids has a weld fall on him and takes off his entire arm and part of his brain leaving him more or less invalid
     
  46. RJF-GUMP

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    92k comp lien. He settled the comp case for 50k. He has permanent restrictions even though his MRI is negative. Life care plan is 600k and future lost wages around 600k. 52k in past meds and 30k in past lost wages. They say he over treated and only recognize like 26k in past meds. Moderate venue. We could end up with a 90k verdict or a 400-600k verdict. They are going to hammer on us on the negative MRI. We have good causation opinions from treating docs. I almost want to take the 175k off the table. The problem is that with the comp lien and other liens coming out of the settlement, already having 11k in cost for experts, the further this goes the more comes out of his bottom line. Even if you get 200k a few months later, the ongoing expenses negate it.
     
  47. Gallant Knight

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    Sounds like one you’re going to have to try
     
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  48. RJF-GUMP

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    Tilly I'm trying to subpoena the bank records for a husband in a divorce. He's a lawyer. His lawyer says that the bank I sent the SDT to has his law firm account statements and that all of that is attorney client protected information. His lawyer says I could get in trouble for pushing for this. He filed a motion to quash/for protective order. At the temp hearing the husband said that the way he does his taxes for the firm is as follows: if he has a contingency fee and the settlement is 400k that he puts that entire 400k as income on his taxes (every lawyer I've heard of just claims the % of the settlement that is the fee on their taxes). His point is that his firm didnt make as much as his tax filings show. My point is that (1) that isn't the proper way to do your taxes and (2) if we had his bank statements from the firm that we could get to the bottom of this question. Do you think that is a proper subpoena? I would be fine with them redacting any identifying information of clients-like names etc.
     
  49. bertwing

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    Should’ve taken that 150 bruh
     
  50. Bricktop the white

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    I'm representing my brother on a speed ticket and I'm having so much fun being a lawyer again instead of a robot who reviews medical records and hands out settlement checks.

    Bonus: I think I found a way to suppress evidence from every single laser gun in Florida.

    Every time I have to stop doing this and go back to work it kills me a little more