Lawyer thread

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  1. Ray McKigney

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    Outside of the body building, heroin, and fentanyl, you’re probably describing most of my law school.
     
  2. Oranjello

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    Agreed with these. I like what I do, but I have often thought about switching careers to finance. Still do.
     
  3. Ray McKigney

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    I get where you’re coming from though. One thing practicing law does is it makes you pretty cynical, as evidenced by folks’ responses to your post. But if you don’t have to go in debt to make it work and you’re willing to do the work to make really good grades, then law school’s not that bad an option. But then you have to be a lawyer after law school, which really sucks.
     
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  4. Bricktop the white

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    become a pilot

    thats what i should do.
     
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  5. RJF-GUMP

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    I like being a lawyer. It is really hard work and at times it sucks. That's probably true of a lot of jobs.
     
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  6. FaZe Fudd

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    This should be a relatively happy day because I did way better than anticipated on that dumbass test.

    I can probably get into Fordham now which would he fucking sweet because it's about 16 blocks south of my apartment.
     
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  7. wes tegg

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    Law is a really tough way to make money. There’s undoubtedly some prestige involved, though.
     
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  8. buy_dont_lease

    buy_dont_lease Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
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    I feel like going to law school in search of “prestige” in your career isn’t a good idea. But if you come from a wealthy family, I guess you have the luxury to experiment with being a law student and lawyer, and if it doesn’t suit you, you can just do something else.
     
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  9. user15000

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    Not trying to rain on any parades, but there’s a decent chance the practice test you took was easy. Either way, you’re probably a good enough test taker and capable of sharpening your skills for the test.

    I pre-tested at like a 168 iirc without knowing what a logic game was or ever looking at a sample question. I still bought the books, did all of the sample tests, etc. If you’re set on going, I loved the powerscores logic games book. It taught that section way better than Kaplan.
     
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  10. user15000

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    As for the job, it’s...fine.

    pros: intellectually stimulating, I enjoy the research and writing, some aspects are fun, the pay is good (context: big law).

    cons: the hours can suck, the partner path comes with pressure of building your own book, you’re always on call, discovery disputes with dickhead lawyers can kiss my ass.

    A large amount of liking your job will depend on whether you like the people you’re working with and whether you like the kind of work you’re doing. Those are impossible things to know pre-law school.
     
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  11. RJF-GUMP

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    Law is so varied that you could get a ton of different answers. Big law is completely different than what I do. Having to work your way up the partner path at a big law firm and slave under partners is completely different than being a partner at a small plaintiff firm and trying to get clients and build a book of business. There are probably similar themes for all lawyers though.
     
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  12. SmoochieWallace

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    I think the guy from my law school class who is the most content with his post-law school career path is the one who turned down his offer in big law to instead manage auto dealerships owned by his family.
     
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  13. Oranjello

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    Because American Airlines is the WOAT, had to pull an all nighter and drive to another city to catch a flight that would allow me to make it to my honeymoon destination on Saturday (with plans to head to the rainforest at 6am Sunday).

    Pulling an all nighter after three incredibly long days of comparing proposed treasury regulations to final treasury regulations to identify changes and updating security filings, my brain is mush and I’ve never had a more on point meme

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  14. Z

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    I enjoy being a lawyer. My practice is very diverse so I don’t get tired of the same things.

    My only downside is I represent a couple of small municipalities, and small town politics is awful.
     
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  15. bro

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    I’ve only been out of law school since 2017 but I enjoy what I do. Stressful at times but very intellectually stimulating and I like who I work with
     
  16. El Tiburon

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    If you can control the work — both from a book of business and administrative aspect — then practicing law isn’t so bad. It’s when you are dependent on someone else that the practice blows huge dick.
     
  17. buy_dont_lease

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    This is a great insight
     
  18. Gallant Knight

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    My goal is to get to the point where I don’t actually have to practice law anymore within 3 years
     
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  19. user15000

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    Because all of the associates are running the shop or because you're just done? I have a 7-10 year plan that involves being done for good.
     
  20. Gallant Knight

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    Because associates are doing all the legal work and I’m managing the office/business development
     
  21. Z

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    Worst part of small firm life is the unknown on pay. We do well most years, but it’s stressful not knowing.

    Makes it almost impossible to budget in personal life too. My profit sharing can be very different from one year to next.
     
  22. RJF-GUMP

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    Agreed. Had a great year last year. Could be completely different this year. It shouldn't be because I have a good book of cases. But there's no guarantee. Stressful. But that's what keeps you working hard. Fear of failure, and the pressure.
     
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  23. Big Meech

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    This exactly.
     
  24. b0ne5

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    I’m the opposite. Love working 40 hours. Same type of law. Same court. Same judge. Steady pay. Good benefits and retirement: No stress.
     
  25. Sammy Meatballs

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    When I decided to come back to practicing law I told myself I would try to be more relaxed, not let little things bother me and just generally be more agreeable.

    fast forward to some idiotic defense lawyer willing to go to the mattresses over the confidentiality of their policies and procedures when his own shitty firm has filed them numerous times as attachments to motions for summary judgment and, shockingly, has never once attempted to file them under seal.
     
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  26. RJF-GUMP

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    Just got finished reading the comprehensive verdict reporter for the state of MS from 2010-2018. Every verdict in the state. Makes you realize how tough it is to get good verdicts. I bet 80%+ of med mal cases were defense verdicts. Maybe 90%. At least 50% of car wrecks were either defense verdicts or verdicts of meds or less.
     
  27. El Tiburon

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    Sounds like it’s time for a 57.105 letter
     
  28. El Tiburon

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    The problem with that analysis is that it’s skewed. The overwhelming majority of good plaintiff’s cases never make it to trial. If you’re in trial, it’s usually because the case is tough from either a liability or causation aspect for the plaintiff. In med mal, specifically, I often find myself in trial as the only non-settling defendant because the culpable folks got out and the plaintiff is just taking a swing at a possible verdict. The only real value to the verdict reporter is in looking at what verdicts are generally worth when you do get them.
     
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  29. Gallant Knight

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    Or Allstate
     
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  30. RJF-GUMP

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    Yes that is very true. You often see in the verdict reporter that the plaintiff settled with x, and y defendants. I've had this happen in med mal cases myself.
     
  31. Sammy Meatballs

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    It’s in Georgia but now he’s also filed a motion to transfer venue that’s woefully incorrect and had the nerve to ask for fees in it.

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  32. Gallant Knight

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    U r sick
     
  33. Gallant Knight

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    Legal assistant got my a bottle of booze basically just because I’m not a dick as a boss

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  34. herb.burdette

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    Robo Revenge, a new app by DoNotPay:

    It automatically adds the user to the federal Do Not Call Registry, uses a one time use credit credit card to provide callers when they call illegally, then uses the transaction information to find the company when they charge the card.

    After that, it provides guidance upon how to sue for the $3000 a call violation under the federal TCPA. The app generates demand letters and draft pleadings.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/...els-and-sues-roboallers?utm_source=reddit.com
     
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  35. dome foam

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    Amazing.
     
  36. herb.burdette

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    I’m skeptical, but intrigued.
     
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  37. CoastalOrange

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  38. SmoochieWallace

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    As someone who defends loads of TCPA class actions, I too am skeptical, but intrigued.
     
  39. BamaNug

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    I am intrigued, but skeptical
     
  40. bro

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    Guys... I gotta say that I am skeptical.

    But I must also say that I am intrigued.
     
  41. Bo Pelinis

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    Not intrigued or skeptical
     
  42. BamaNug

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    *nor
     
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  43. BamaNug

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    Or would it be "neither intrigued nor skeptical?"
     
  44. Bo Pelinis

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    Just had this exact same question run across my brain
     
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  45. wes tegg

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    I think not/or is fine as phrased. "Neither/nor" is better when you're talking about comparatives.
     
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  46. Z

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    Trial coming up in a couple of weeks. Great venue.

    Took me forever to find a local actor to ground it in state court. Local actor has been served but has never filed an appearance. Anything I need to be concerned about, re: getting removed on this?
     
  47. wes tegg

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    Their clock begins at when the case becomes removable, so don't voluntarily dismiss him after not having done any kind of discovery or anything. I'd probably get an entry of default and ask that damages be determined at trial. The beauty of joint and several liability is that you don't have to worry about them apportioning all fault to the guy without money.
     
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  48. Z

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    Oh yeah, I'm never dismissing her. Last time I had something like this, I basically told them during my final close that they should turn local actor loose, and they did.

    Good idea on the default. That's what I'll do.
     
  49. RJF-GUMP

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    What do you think is a reasonable amount of proposed jury instructions in a typical auto case? I've been accused of having too many in the past.
     
  50. wes tegg

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    It depends on the issues in the case.
     
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