Lawyer thread

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  1. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    Investigating discrimination claims but not actually litigating them: If a 5 is a very mediocre lawyer job in terms of interesting day to day, I'd give that a 5. Regulatory compliance, I'd give a 3 or a 4.
     
  2. bertwing

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    Hate to tell you this but he passed

    thinking about making the move to beautiful NWA huh? Smartest lawyer itt
     
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  3. Bricktop the white

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    I'm all ears for what a 10 would be. cocaine purity counsel for the DEA?
     
  4. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    What qualifies as a 10? A billionaire plaintiff lawyer that can just go around trying cases but doesn't really have to do anything if they don't want?
    Keith Mitnick basically gets to just try cases for Morgan and Morgan around the country and doesn't have to deal with the minutia of the early litigation. That would be pretty ideal. And I'm sure he's bringing in several mill a year.
    Idk that any gig is a 10.
     
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  5. Bricktop the white

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    I volunteer on the leon county code enforcement board.

    Just had a guy try to argue that his code violation was illegal because
    1. the code enforcement board doesnt have the authority to exist
    2. he's exempt for religious reasons (it's the sabbath year according to some interpretation of rabbincal law)
    3. He has asthma so mowing his lawn would kill him.

    he submitted a very lengthy "motion to dismiss" with a ton of (incorrectly) cited cases.

    I also asked him about his religious exemption and he confirmed he wasnt jewish, casting some doubt on how sincerely held his belief in the sabbath year really is.


    The best part is that his lawn wasn't even that overgrown, he could easily have it mowed for $100 or so. He must have spent days writing his "motion"
     
  6. Rebelution

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    I don’t know if there is a 10 but mine is pretty close for my personal situation. I’m the city attorney for a mid sized city here. Good money, generally pretty low stress, fantastic work like balance, and my office is ten minutes or less from the house. Couldn’t ask for a better situation, particularly with a 9 month old at home. There are places where I could probably make a little more money but would never be able to come close to the other aspects. I’m throwing a little wrinkle into it by taking over as the city judge here in about a month in addition to my current gig. Will add a little more work but I’ve been wanting to get some judicial experience and I figure this is a good place to start.
     
  7. colonel_forbin

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    My partner is a contracted fill-in city judge twice a month and loves it. The only downside is that he's sometimes on-call to sign warrants and has received a few 2 am phone calls.
     
  8. Rebelution

    Rebelution I'm not superstitious but I am a little stitious.
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    Yeah I’ll definitely have some of the middle of the night stuff. I’m working as a pro-tem right now to get the hang of it and have already had a few after hours things. My city is a little unusual (at least for this area) in that we have a full time in-house city attorney and city judge. Most places contract both. Our current city judge is taking a sabbatical for 3 years and theoretically coming back so I told them if they would give me half his salary in addition to mine I would do both jobs in the interim.
     
  9. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    I need to hit you with a DM at some point. You're in MS correct? Maybe I can get some TMB favorable bench rulings.
     
  10. Rebelution

    Rebelution I'm not superstitious but I am a little stitious.
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    I am, up in central MS though. Aren’t you down towards the coast?
     
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  11. RJF-GUMP

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    Yep. Jackson County.
     
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  12. RJF-GUMP

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    Run for circuit court, I'll throw you a fundraiser. Good to have TMBers on the bench.
     
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  13. colonel_forbin

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    Same with the city he contracts with -- a full time judge, but they contract with my partner to manage overload a couple days a month. Decent pay and zero stress, and he said he'd consider doing it full time eventually.
     
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  14. colonel_forbin

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    Speaking of sabbaticals, I need one.

    I interviewed with a firm once where every partner was required to take a six month sabbatical every seven years. It's a great idea.
     
  15. Gallant Knight

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    A friend just got selected to be a juror for a weeklong intoxication assault trial

    he was #31 in the panel and the lawyers didn’t ask any questions to any of the panelists 31 or higher

    he was #7/12

    it was a 3 hour voir dire

    What
     
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  16. (Z)

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    I’ve been in Destin all week. I am not looking forward to seeing my desk on Monday.
     
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  17. RJF-GUMP

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    Headed to Orange Beach Monday-Friday. Not checking email. Told my staff not to call me even if the office burns down.
     
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  18. (Z)

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    Same. I usually email regularly no matter where I am. I left the phone in the condo and ignored it.
     
  19. Sammy Meatballs

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    He does ok.
     
  20. wes tegg

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    Cunningham Bounds does that. Seems pretty dope to make an assload of money and get time off.
     
  21. colonel_forbin

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    That was the firm.
     
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  22. Nug

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    Does anyone practice in real estate? Not necessarily litigation, but just facilitating deals, general contract advice, etc.?

    I'm starting a few investment projects with some friends, two of whom are successful real estate agents. They've both said that if they could call me regularly for general RE legal advice we could work out some sort of retainer deal.

    Thinking of auditing a Washington real estate law class this summer because I feel like that'd be the most immersive. Not sure if I have the discipline to teach myself.
     
  23. Nug

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    Come on in buddy, the water's fine.
     
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  24. Nug

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    I think the genesis of my apathy towards insurance defense was having to go against CB for a majority of my cases when I started out.

    Having the deck stacked against you doesn't even begin to describe it.
     
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  25. RJF-GUMP

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    Deck stacked because they have the judges on their side/in their pocket , more resources, better lawyers or all of the above?
     
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  26. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    Law school never teaches anything of practical importance. You know this. I’m not sure what the best way is. Always had to just jump in , learn from experience, and do a ton of research. Also if you know some experienced lawyers that do it that you can bug with questions that’s a huge plus.
     
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  27. CF3234

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    Email I got at 7pm last night.
    Dear CF3234,

    id like to try and resolve Client X’s claims. Please give me a call on my cell any time this weekend as I’ll be in the office.

    this is reason 1b I switched sides other than the money bump.
     
  28. RJF-GUMP

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    is that on that same case you’ve been posting about? Why is someone wanting to settle a case the reason you switched sides? More context bro
     
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  29. Nug

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    Awful venue, they fund most of the bench's re-election campaigns (maybe this is true for most Plaintiff's bars, tho?), but they have damn good lawyers.

    A lot of their lawyers are genuinely good guys and it wasn't terrible dealing with them on a personal level. They just kicked our ass all around Mobile and Baldwin County wrt to trucking cases and both sides knew it.

    No idea if it was true, but the rumor was they had the police department and ER docs on their side as well, so whenever there was a catastrophic accident CB lawyers always happened to appear at convenient times.
     
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  30. herb.burdette

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    I guess you could do it in some context, maybe plaintiffs whose business comes from ads, but not in any other firm of any decent size.

    Sabbaticals could work back in the days when law firms had true “firm” clients with a team that managed client work, but that’s not remotely close to the reality of how legal work is bought and sold today.

    You leave for six months and your clients aren’t waiting for you when you return.
     
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  31. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    You may be able to pull it off in a 20+ member plaintiff firm with some sort of rotational system in place as stop gap while member x is gone for 6 months. If I took off 6 months my clients would obviously all fire me and alternatively my partners couldnt handle all my cases for 6 months + theirs.
     
  32. colonel_forbin

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    They hadn't hired an associate in 10 years and it was between me and another guy who ultimately got it. I was basically one number away from winning the lottery, and I think about it often.
     
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  33. CF3234

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    No. Different case. And having to work weekends is why I switched. Thought that was obvious. My bad.
     
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  34. RJF-GUMP

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    My bad. Yah I don’t work weekends that much. When litigation is hot and heavy and briefing is do then I do. I check and respond to emails on weekends
     
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  35. colonel_forbin

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    I'm currently in the office waiting on an expert psychologist to arrive to evaluate my client for several hours. He'll interview the other client for several hours tomorrow.

    Huzzah!
     
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  36. RJF-GUMP

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    sounds terrible. if it ultimately results in a large payout then sounds awesome. microcosm of plaintiff life
     
  37. bigred77

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    It was
     
  38. colonel_forbin

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    Child wrongful death case against a large corporation, so the game is the game.
     
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  39. wes tegg

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    I don’t know any litigators who *never* work weekends. It’s not really a one side or the other thing.
     
  40. Oranjello

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    What is general real estate legal advice?
     
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  41. Oranjello

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    I get 3-5 calls a week asking me to handle real estate matters and I turn them all down because I know my limits. You’re not going to learn anything in a law school class that’ll justify them paying you a retainer
     
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  42. RJF-GUMP

    RJF-GUMP Daubert Qualified in Cooler Thermodynamics
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    Hence why it wasn’t “obvious.”
     
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  43. Nug

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    kind of the point of my question, i reckon
    They dont have to know that, tho. Think of the tax write offs.
     
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  44. CF3234

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    In the last 15 months I’ve put maybe a handful of weekend hours in. And they’ve all been settlement convos with OCs. Perfect work life balance for me.
     
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  45. Oranjello

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    Do you even have malpractice insurance? Guessing no
     
  46. wes tegg

    wes tegg I'm a Guy's guy, guys.
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    Do you never have anything set on Mondays? Or any trials?
     
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  47. wes tegg

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    YÕLÕ
     
  48. Nug

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    Not required in WA :badger:
     
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  49. El Tiburon

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    It's not "required" for doctors in FL, either, but I'm suing a lot of people who are rethinking their life choices now and realizing that malpractice premiums are a drop in the bucket compared to self-funding a defense.
     
  50. Oranjello

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    May want to get some before you invest with these dudes, fail to spot a glaring RE issue due to non-experience, and they take your investments
     
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