Legalization of Marijuana on November ballot in Ohio

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  1. THEBLUERAIDER

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    Huh?
     
  2. TC

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    Washington Oregon etc sell pre roll joints. I was joking that in Mississippi that might be blunts
     
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  3. Cornelius Suttree

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    Holy shit it's so embarrassing that we still don't have this legalized federally. And pathetic we probably never will. Makes me want to scream at old white fucks

    About 71 percent of those arrested on suspicion of cannabis offenses in Oakland between 1995 and 2015 were Black, according to an analysis by the city. During that time, Oakland’s Black population was 30 percent.

    Article does a good job highlighting why even in elite states we still need federal legalization

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/15/business/cannabis-dispensaries-oakland.html
     
  4. IV

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  6. Cornelius Suttree

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    I believe the House passed some bill again that's surely not to go anywhere. Just thankful for my Grow Sciences and Everest rosin carts
     
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  7. Cornelius Suttree

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    House Votes to Decriminalize Cannabis
    Democrats, with some Republican support, voted 220-204 to remove marijuana from the federal list of controlled substances, moving to catch up to the states.

    WASHINGTON — The House passed legislation on Friday to decriminalize marijuana at the federal level, as Democrats and three Republicans banded together to capitalize on the political resonance of legalized cannabis as an issue of economic growth, racial justice and states’ rights.

    The Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment and Expungement Act, which passed 220-204, is unlikely to secure 60 votes to pass the Senate, despite the backing of the majority leader, Senator Chuck Schumer of New York. But supporters of marijuana decriminalization — even some Republicans who voted against the Democratic legislation — said on Friday that the vote was a necessary step toward building consensus on something that can become law.

    The Democrats’ bill would remove marijuana from the federal government’s list of controlled substances, impose an 8 percent tax on cannabis products, allow some convictions on cannabis charges to be expunged and press for sentencing reviews at the federal and state levels. It would also make Small Business Administration loans and services available to cannabis businesses while setting standards for them.

    The Republicans voting for the measure were Representatives Matt Gaetz and Brian Mast of Florida and Tom McClintock of California. But other Republicans have signed on to a similar bill by Representative Nancy Mace, Republican of South Carolina. (Two Democrats, Representatives Henry Cuellar of Texas and Chris Pappas of New Hampshire, voted against the legislation on Friday.)

    Congressional Budget Office estimated that the act would reduce the federal deficit by nearly $3 billion over the next decade.

    Similar legislation passed in 2020 but went nowhere in the Republican-controlled Senate. The vote on Friday was the first since Mr. Schumer elevated the issue in that chamber. After its passage, he said, “the time has come for comprehensive reform of federal cannabis laws.”

    He added, “Of course, we will need Republicans to pass a legalization bill in the Senate, and we will be working hard to try and get them.”

    Ms. Mace, backed by four other Republicans, has her own bill, with a lower tax rate to discourage an illicit cannabis trade and other measures to discourage youth consumption. And the Democratic senators Cory Booker of New Jersey and Ron Wyden of Oregon have written a marijuana decriminalization measure with Mr. Schumer.

    With 47 states and the District of Columbia having relaxed marijuana laws in some way, the federal government is far behind. Thirty-seven states have legalized cannabis for medical use, and 15 have granted adults legal access for purely recreational purposes.

    But because cannabis remains a federally controlled substance on par with heroin, banks insured by the federal government have been loath to make their services available to the burgeoning marijuana industry.

    Sales in that industry totaled $20 billion in 2020 and are projected to more than double by 2025, according to the bill. But those transactions are by and large in cash, without banking services.

    “If states are the laboratories of democracy, it is long past time for the federal government to recognize that legalization has been a resounding success, and that the conflict with federal law has become untenable,” said Representative Jerrold Nadler of New York, the chairman of the Judiciary Committee.

    Even as states move forward with legalization, people convicted on marijuana offenses — disproportionately people of color — remain imprisoned. The Congressional Budget Office estimated that the bill’s provision to expunge marijuana convictions and lower sentences would reduce time served by current and future inmates by 37,000 years.

    “Make no mistake, this is a racial justice bill,” said Representative Barbara Lee, Democrat of California.

    Republican states like Oklahoma have become marijuana boom states. Kansas is the latest state on the verge of legalizing cannabis for medical use.

    Federal law is far out of step.

    “This is an issue of individual freedom and basic fairness that clearly transcends party lines,” Mr. Schumer, Mr. Wyden and Mr. Booker wrote in a letter to fellow senators in February. “However, one major hurdle continues to stand in the way of states’ ability to make their own decisions about cannabis — the continued prohibition of marijuana at the federal level.”

    Ms. Mace said the Democrats with whom she had been negotiating needed to pass their version of a legalization bill before getting serious about talks on a bipartisan bill, with buy-in from the Senate. She has used the issue to distinguish herself from her Republican primary opponent, Katie Arrington, whom President Donald J. Trump has endorsed.

    “I hope that I can be forgiven for voting against it,” Ms. Mace said on Friday, before casting her vote against the Democrats’ bill. “Because I want to continue. I want to work on this issue, but we have to work on it together.”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/01/us/politics/marijuana-legalization.html
     
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  8. Where Eagles Dare

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    Would be nice for this to at least get a vote in the Senate
     
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  9. Cornelius Suttree

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    It won't happen but if we do ever get federal legalization we're gonna see posters on this board (particularly Michigan med card holders within a short drive of Bay City) become super popular. Would love to put together some care packages for my stoner comrades
     
  10. Cornelius Suttree

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    missed this a couple days ago :shocker:

     
  11. Cornelius Suttree

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  12. Cornelius Suttree

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    I think rec sales start in NJ on Thursday. Looking forward to seeing photos and videos of the lines
     
  13. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    Prices be high and the state drags their dicks handing out licenses. Hopefully this setting only lasts another year or so.
     
  14. Dr. Richard Cranium

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  15. Daddy Rabbit

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    I knew Illinois prices were high, but didnt realize how much until I looked at the same store's prices in Michigan just now.
     
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  16. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    It is pretty much the same price as black market + taxes
     
  17. THEBLUERAIDER

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    And I’ll drive there and pay it every time.
     
  18. Daddy Rabbit

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    My new BFF lives in Marion.
     
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  19. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    Nine republican co-sponsors for, an estimated 12 Republican supporters but looks like McConnell and Schumer are what stands in the way

     
  20. Lyrtch

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    The critiques of it not having restorative justice components are right. Be curious what the legalization and regulation bill in there will look like.
     
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  21. bro

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    that's just a banking bill. but I don't get Schumer's position if you can't add criminal / restorative justice aspects to that type of banking bill.

    Passing piece by piece is probably better than trying to get everything at once
     
  22. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    I feel like the Federal government has already made clear they have no interest in stopping states from legalizing it, but they are still forced to operate in 1. A very dangerous cash only business and 2. An incredibly inefficient and expensive cost of capital. If you allowed US financial institutions to deal in this industry the rest would fall into place (either by practically every state legalizing it themselves or at the Federal level)

    Stock Exchanges would love to list these companies

    Banks would love to lend/take deposits from these companies

    Alcohol companies dieing to put it in their beverages

    Those are some pretty big lobbies albeit going up against the pharmaceutical lobby.

    If you have legal banking, and a generation of olds dies off, there aren't enough pearls in the world to clutch for pols to fight it much longer. Tax dollars, well paying jobs, retail storefronts (how many empty former bank branches are rotting to the ground?)
     
  23. Lyrtch

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    because he'll have no leverage over the republicans who want it or the capitalist dems to get the restorative justice portions as those groups only want the banking portion to go through for their own self enrichment

    you pass banking reform the rest vanishes from possibility
     
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  24. Lyrtch

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    do you have a financial incentive in this happening
     
  25. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    No
     
  26. TC

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    Puff puff pass
     
  27. cutig

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    What I read this morning said they legalized hemp derived THC up to 5mg a serving or something like that.
     
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  29. bro

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  30. bro

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    Perfect for me! Congrats Lyrtch
     
  31. ned's head

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    Wasn't this already legal through the farm bill, as long as it didn't exceed .3%? Or did some states even block that?
     
  32. THEBLUERAIDER

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    Some states block that. TN unsurprisingly looked at banning all Delta 8. I’m pretty sure Delta 8 is illegal in colorado and several other states with legal weed too.
     
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  33. ned's head

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    Interesting...I figured texas availability was the floor for this stuff, but apparently not