Even though I think Man City will end up winning, this has been a remarkable change for us. I remember not playing for anything at the end of seasons and inly looking forward to the team wearing the upcoming seasons kit during the final game of the season.
Yep. I hope everyone has thoroughly enjoyed this season. It may be the best Liverpool team you ever see in your lifetime. We may win the title in the future but matching 97 points may never happen again.
Hate that I’m already reading we aren’t looking to spend big this summer. The team that beat you had Mahrez and Gundogan replace Sane and Fernandinho
Do we need to spend big? Only a few guys who would go straight into the squad and it requires a formation change. CB, FB, Wing/ST. All rotational guys.
Rotational guys will play 35 games a season. We had to play wjinaldum at left forward in a champions league semi. We had to play Fabinho at center back in multiple games. Squad depth is huge, it’s something we haven’t had in a while. Rotational players don’t just have to be guys not good enough to play like lallana
We need a 4th attacker, a CB, and a creative mid. Out: Sturridge, Moreno, Lallana, Lovren, Ings, and if we get the right player in I’d be fine if Milner left
If we want to win the league? Yeah we need about a 300 million spend. To continue competing in Europe? No we don’t.
I’d be fine with that happening after next year, but Millie just brings so much to the table (in addition to being able to back up both FB positions). I’d prefer he stick with us one more year and lend his experience and grit to one more squad.
Yeah I don’t agree with you often but you’re right about this one. I don’t think people realize how far behind in depth and talent we are from man city. Literally everything that could have gone our way went our way this year with the Sturridge strike out of nothing, Origi’s goal against Everton and the own goal against spurs for example. It very easily could and should have been a ten point gap between the sides.
If only one scoring chance rolls another 12 millimeters, we are having different conversations today. The core is there, getting Gomez, Ox and Keita back fit will be important as is strengthening the squad with not just depth, but quality depth to compete on all fronts.
If Mahrez doesn't miss a penalty at Anfield that 12 mm doesn't even matter. Don't get your hopes up that we're just going to win another 97 points next season. The core is there to continue to place in the top four, but we're not going to win a league unless city's owners get bored or the team implodes.
We already have 20 mil from ings, conservatively they should be able to get another 40 from lallana and Lovren. With how much money we’ve made from TV and Champions league, a net spend of 60-70 isn’t an unreasonable ask
I can't imagine we wouldn't to try to give it another go with the core we have. Not sure it will be enough but better than nothing.
There are woulda, shoulda, coulda for both teams that could have altered the title race. No illusions that City is going anywhere, but we have shown we can compete to the final day. Strengthen and go again.
De Ligt and Brandt would cost 100 mil. So you could fit them in pretty comfortably. More a matter of convincing them Liverpool is the best opportunity. It’d be nice Brewster came out tearing up trees.
It is unlikely we will see another Liverpool team score 97 points and I expect to live another 40-50 years. It will always sting that it didn’t mean a title, but what a season. A great credit to Klopp and the club that they never gave in. It stunk to high heavens to watch City celebrate the title like a spoiled 8 year old who just opened his 25th Christmas present from his parents. I think the break before the final benefits Tottenham significantly more than it benefits us, even if you remove Kane from the equation. That entire team is running on fumes. For me the only decision is Firmino or Origi with most of that decision being about Firmino’s relative health.
I think it certainly helps Tottenham, but it helps us too. They touched on it in the broadcast today that apparently the big team motto right now is "It's just pain" because they're so banged up. A healthy Tottenham is scary. A healthy LFC is scarier though, imo
I'm fairly confident we would beat Tottenham over two legs, but the one off format of the final has me concerned.
It is difficult to argue that we need massive investment when we just got 97 points and are in the Champions League final for the second time in a row. Also don't know if I buy the notion that we can't compete with City due to money. Liverpool have plenty of money, but unlike City also have a budget. Our margin of error is certainly smaller. We can't miss on a player we pay 40+ million on, whereas they can. Klopp also doesn't want an overly large squad. They seem committed to Brewster being Sturridge's replacement. They also like Adam Lewis at left back. Getting De Ligt and a versatile attacker would be ideal. Then Gomez could basically be the utility guy across the back four.
You have to account for the fact City is going to invest as well. They just had a terrible run of form in 4 matches. They're going to be a 103-106 point team next year.
I mean that is certainly possible. I'm hoping it is sort of like Alabama in football. Where they bring in the best class of players year after year. But the team doesn't get exponentially better because they can only play 11 of them at a time. And while City will always be dominate as long as humans need oil, no reason we can't get the best of them in a given year.
The football analogy is much more similar to the Champions League. They're certainly beatable on any given day. The UCL is like football in that one loss can end your chance. But if Alabama had to play a 38 game regular season, no one in the SEC is going to match them. Just so many games it takes away the variance.
Right. City basically has a two teams that would make champions league in the same roster. They bring on Jesus for Aguero, sane or mahrez for sterling, gundogan for Fernandinho, etc.
We lost one game to City all season where the ball didn't cross the line by millimeters. We scored late winners a lot, but didn't get the penalty on Keita against Leicester. They got 98 points and we got 97. Yes, we can't bring a Sane or Mahrez off the bench. But I don't think looking at the season you can reasonably say that there is a massive gulf between the teams, because there isn't. Our midfielders aren't as dynamic in attack, but they're asked to perform a different role so the fullbacks can get forward. Andy, Trent, and VVD walk into their team.