Long-form on cfb attendance dropping...

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    Pretty good read, with stops at OSU, UF, and Clemson to visit why the numbers are dropping all over the country.

    https://www.si.com/.amp/college/202...ndance-decline-ncaa?__twitter_impression=true

    Unexcused Absence: Why Is College Football Attendance Tanking?
    As college football prepares to crown its latest champion, the game is facing a much bigger question than Clemson or LSU: namely, why are crowds at stadiums across the country shrinking? University administrators have tried fix after fix—but without ever diagnosing a root cause beyond 'kids these days.' To get to the heart of the problem, we set out on a journey across the college football landscape.
    BY CHARLOTTE WILDER , JAN 10, 2020
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    It’s a few hours before Florida hosts Vanderbilt, and hundreds of fans are hovering around the statues of Tim Tebow, Steve Spurrier and Danny Wuerffel that grace Ben Hill Griffin Stadium. Some pose for photos and then linger, as though hoping the school’s Heisman Trophy winners might unbend their bronze arms and offer benedictions. Tebow was 23 when his monument went up in 2011—too young to rent a car without added fees, but old enough to be canonized. Like religion, college football is full of miracles, steeped in nostalgia and not extremely logical.

    I make my way through the picture-takers and around the curved walls of the stadium, passing tailgates set up under blue and orange tents. One lot is particularly packed, with fans pressed up against a rope-line running down its middle. Cheers erupt when coach Dan Mullen and his team parade through on their way to the locker room. The players high-five fans who’ve gotten close to them, the football gods. It’s game day in Gainesville.

    As I enter the stadium a few minutes before kickoff, the audio system rumbles through the cement pillars and I’m ready for an overwhelming surge of energy. But when I make it out into the open air, the first thing I notice are empty metal bleachers reflecting rays of bright Florida sun. While the alumni section I’m standing in is filled, the top third of the student section opposite me is mostly empty, a scatter-plot weighted toward the bottom. I was expecting the frenzied vibe of a rave; what I’ve got is more of a buzzy mimosa brunch.


    To be fair, college football isn’t the only sport facing turnstile trouble. Major League Baseball attendance has dropped 7.1% since 2015, and this season the NFL posted its lowest numbers since 2004 (though a large chunk of that was due to a fan revolt in Washington, plus the Chargers’ move to a small stadium in Los Angeles and the Raiders’ upcoming relocation to Las Vegas). On the other side of the coin, NHL attendance is down 0.7% from 2013-14, but grew last year. And the NBA has seen an increase in attendance since the 2011-12 lockout season.

    But college football, steeped in culture and tradition, is supposed to be impervious to change. Yet the numbers might be even worse than they seem: A 2018 Wall Street Journal report found that only 71% of the people who bought tickets to FBS games actually went.

    The ramifications for universities are real: Iowa adjusted its school budget by $1 million last year because of falling revenue from ticket sales. And so, nationwide, administrators are scrambling. Six SEC schools, including LSU and Tennessee, started selling alcohol in their stadiums this season, after the conference lifted its ban. Alabama installed a Big Brotherish geo-tracking app to reward students who stay the whole game with better odds of snagging playoff tickets (though that didn’t turn out to be much of a reward this season). Florida brought in food trucks and DJs before games. Clemson lowered concession prices. Ohio State isn’t raising the cost of tickets next year.

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    From the press box the next day, I watch Death Valley start to fill up before the 3:30 start. The reporters around me are buzzing about a college football team, but it’s not Clemson: Notre Dame failed to sell out its stadium today for the first time in 273 games. The last time that happened was on Thanksgiving in 1973. If South Bend isn’t safe from empty seats, is anyone?

    Here at Clemson, it’s Senior Day, but at kickoff a portion of the student section isn’t totally full. There are also two noticeable patches of empty seats in either corner of the upper bowl; announced attendance is about 700 people under capacity. The empty sections were reserved for Wake Forest fans, but few showed up. Why spend money on travel to watch your team be blasted into the sun? Clemson didn’t have much luck repackaging and selling all the visiting tickets.

    Between the first and second quarter, I meet Clemson’s athletic director, Dan Radakovich, in a suite next door. He’s aware that attendance is falling across the board, but tells me it hasn’t been as much of a problem for Clemson. This year’s average, however, is about 4,000 people fewer than it was in 2015, when the program hit a record high average attendance of 84,038. That’s close to a 4% drop.

    “We have a lot of people working on this,” Radakovich eventually admits. “Not just in marketing but in development areas, with game operations people. It’s a collective effort to make sure it is top of mind for everybody in the department to be sure we get people to the games.”

    Enticements include improving cell service in the stadium and lowering the price of concessions. But when your team is up 30 points by the start of the third quarter, it’s hard to keep people engaged. Clemson lets fans leave the stadium and reenter, which is rare in college football. Once they’re gone, many opt to stay at their tailgates.

    With seconds to go before the half, Clemson QB Trevor Lawrence throws a 30 yard TD bomb that puts his team ahead of Wake Forest 31-3. Back in the pressbox, one of the reporters near me gestures at all the orange-clad people filtering out. “It’s a real problem,” she says, “I mean, look at this.”

    I don’t blame the fans. The parties are fun and the setups elaborate. I’ll leave soon myself. I head outside to the parking lots halfway through the third quarter and pass one trailer wrapped in tiger stripes with a 60-inch TV mounted on the side. Another boasts two 55-inchers. Most people have satellite reception, along with gas grills and carpets rolled out over the asphalt. There’s pulled pork everywhere I look. The groups here are mostly families; this isn’t some debaucherous college scene. I’ve never been offered so much food at once, and I have a Jewish grandmother.

    At the beginning of the fourth quarter, the parking lots are bumping. Christmas lights hang from tents as fans party into the night. The score is 52–3 as I chat with a group of seniors and their moms drinking spiked seltzer near a truck bed with a television on it. This is their last home game as students.

    “We’re big fans, I guess we just don’t stay in the entire game because we’re usually winning,” says Mary Margaret Cain, a nursing major. “Yes, we’re out at halftime, but what do we have on our TV? The Clemson game. So it’s like we’re there, but we’re not there.”

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    Jeff Haynes

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    It’s the Friday before the Penn State game, and I find myself saying “Go Bucks!” to a man wearing an Ohio State sweatshirt in the lobby of my Columbus hotel. He nods back at me and replies, “Go Bucks!” Have I...passed for an Ohioan?

    I have not. This becomes clear when I head to the campus student center and a group of young people wearing OSU gear greet me with wary looks. I explain that I’m a reporter, assure them I’m not a narc—which is 100% something a narc would say—and ask if they’re going to the game tomorrow. It turns out they’re student-athletes and will get in trouble if they don’t clear this conversation with their communications director first (at least they don’t have a Risk Manager). On the condition of anonymity, they sheepishly tell me they aren’t going to the game. It's much more fun to watch in bars or at frats, they say, especially when every game is a blowout.

    Following a 2.8% attendance decline from 2013-2018 at Ohio Stadium, 2019 actually saw an uptick of about 1,400 fans per game. But student season-ticket sales dropped this year from the previous season by a jarring 24%. The school sold 6,500 fewer packages—costing between $144 and $272—after last year’s Big Ten championship campaign.

    I wander into a small gym on campus. Senior psychology major Isaiah Swoops is working the desk, swiping students’ ID cards. He explains that the gym isn’t always this full on Friday evenings—people are taking it easy tonight because they’ll start drinking at 6 a.m. for the noon kickoff. Swoops, a senior, bought season tickets the past three years. This season, he didn’t. He hasn’t gone to a single game.

    “Fortunately, we have a really competitive program,” he says. “But our opening game this year was Florida Atlantic. Do I really want to go sit through it and watch us beat down Florida Atlantic? Or do I want to watch at home or a bar with my buddies and see some of the other games going on in college football?”

    “If we were to play a more competitive schedule at home, that would cause me to want to go,” Swoops continues. “There’s nothing better than going to see a good game in person.”

    The scores of Ohio State’s home games this season to date had been: 45–21, 42–0, 76–5, 34–10, 38–7 and 73–14, the last a win over Big Ten “rival” Maryland. In 2014, amid a larger wave of conference realignment, the Big Ten expanded to include Rutgers and Maryland. Both were placed with OSU in the conference’s eastern division, meaning they play the Buckeyes every year (and every other year at home). Neither Rutgers nor Maryland is consistently competitive, but both are near major media markets, bring more viewership to the Big Ten Network and more money to schools in the conference.

    Obviously, not every program is as dominant as Ohio State and Clemson. But in 2019, the average margin of victory for the 25 FBS teams with the highest plus-minus was 17.54 points. Five seasons ago, it was 14.14. (In the intervening years, that number has hovered between 14 and 15 points). Conference realignments and weak non-conference contests likely contribute to the large differentials.

    By 2014, most schools were playing non-conference games scheduled very far in advance. We’re talking “will we still be alive then?” in advance. The trend started in the aughts, when teams like Oklahoma—a pioneer in advanced football planning—started booking 10 years down the road to get the jump on other schools. Soon, other programs followed, and it became a scheduling arms race: Ohio State will play Georgia in the Horseshoe in 2030. Clemson will host Notre Dame in 2037. These would be great games to watch next year, but how are we supposed to know what these programs will look like in a decade or more? Scott Stricklin, Florida’s athletic director, mentioned the problem a few weeks ago.

    “The way we schedule, it has to be conducive to keeping people engaged,” he said. “But usually when there’s a problem like [falling attendance], there’s no one thing.”

    Ohio State offers a Big Ten package that’s popular with students, but this year it only featured four games rather than five, as it did last year, and the must-see rivalry game against That School Up North was up north, in Ann Arbor. For the 6,500 fewer students who bought season tickets, the price didn’t seem worth it. This doesn’t mean they all didn’t go—tickets are easy to find on the secondary market—but it does mean they didn’t commit. Football’s once iron grip had grown a little more tenuous.

    ***

    While today’s game isn’t Michigan, it’s definitely Ohio State’s best home matchup of the year. The Nittany Lions are ranked No. 8 in the country. If they can beat No. 2 OSU they could vault into playoff contention. Wading through the sea of pregame tailgates outside Ohio Stadium, nearly all the alumni and older fans I talk to are fired up. They think it’s going to be a fight.

    They don’t, however, think the school has any problem filling the stadium. Almost every time I bring it up, they get defensive. “I think we’re sold out every game,” says Ameen Farwana, who didn’t go to Ohio State but is from Columbus and has adopted the team as his own. “Honestly. I don’t think we’ve not had a sellout in 30 years.”

    He is wrong, but today is a good showing for the students. It’s gross out—42º with rain and wind— yet Block O, the student section, is full at kickoff. The upper corners of the stadium above it, however, are empty, and stay that way the whole game. A crowd of 104,355 is here, about 600 under capacity. At least that’s what the ticket sales say—who knows how many people actually came in this weather. But junior psych and criminology major Sammy Sundell showed up. She doesn’t miss a game.

    “I’m a big sports person, so I come,” she says. “But I just think it all depends not even on how we’re doing, just the social thing. My friends are so caught up in [the social scene] that they won’t come. But this, to me”—she gestures at the field and the stands—“is Ohio State.”

    A fair amount of students at all three schools told me that they wanted to attend games, but didn’t if their friends wanted to party elsewhere. The tide of shifting student habits can be hard to swim against, and in Ohio State’s case, the stadium is almost a mile away from the bars. When you’re drunk, that walk might as well be the length of the Iditarod.

    Today, it would be worth it. The third quarter is electric. OSU had gone up 21–0 early, but the Nittany Lions answered with three scores, narrowing the lead to 17-21. As the Buckeyes try to counter, chants of O, H, I, O surge around the Shoe with enough energy to power the entire city. Ohio State will eventually pull away and win 28-17, but for now, despite the cold rain, I don’t want to be anywhere else. When a team wins a close game on TV, you watch it. When a team wins a close game and you’re there, you feel it.

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    Laura Heald

    Right before halftime at the Florida game, I saw a group of four girls in very cool ripped, baggy jeans and tube tops arranging themselves in various configurations of three while one rotated taking pictures. I offered to take a photo of the four of them, and afterward, one mentioned a business class she took where the instructor had students examine why attendance was falling at UF games. So when I got home, I called up the professor, Jim Hoover.

    Hoover wanted to be clear that he didn’t conduct a widespread survey; he just had his 50 students this fall ask their friends why they weren’t going to games and then compiled a list of common reasons. Many students cited hot weather, the lack of beer in the stadium and cakewalk games. But one of the most common reasons was the cost.

    “It’s 20 bucks per ticket for UF games,” Hoover said. “You pay in the beginning of the year for the whole schedule. They said that was a detriment, especially when you have so many other options for entertainment. Is it worth the $20-per-ticket price?”

    That’s the million-dollar question (literally, if you’re Iowa’s budget). And there are thousands of factors that go into answering it. Students wonder whether it’s worth paying when you don’t know if your friends are going to go. When it might be 125º—or 25º, depending on your school—at kickoff. When you might be watching a blowout. When college is already so expensive that you’re facing decades of debt. When the academics are harder. When there have never been more cheaper entertainment options just a click away. Fans who aren’t in school ask many of the same questions.

    Before we hung up, Hoover recited reasons students didn’t give: “I didn’t hear anything about [traumatic brain injury]. I didn’t hear anything about the violence of the sport, didn’t hear that it was boring relative to other options, didn’t hear anybody complain about long timeouts for TV. The things people think. I never heard any student say those in my class.”

    Hoover’s comments drove home how when we talk about falling attendance in college football, it’s often speculation divorced from students’ actual lives. But this isn’t a referendum on kids these days. It’s a referendum on college these days, which affects college football these days. It sounds obvious, but what did you think would happen when students facing astronomical tuition bills were asked to pay more to watch less competitive games? Declining attendance isn’t a sign of moral weakness or a lack of emotional investment, it’s a sign of shifting realities. If I learned anything on college campuses this fall, it’s this: Fans still believe in the gospel of football. They’ll even pay for it. It just has to be worth the cost.
     
  2. electronic

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    I’m not a huge theater person, but when the season has stuff like Book of Mormon, School of Rock, Hamilton, and Lion King, I buy season tickets. When it has Jersey Boys, West Side story, and Murray State, I don’t.

    There are different reasons for different people, but if you schedule great home games, people will be there.
     
  3. Fusiontegra

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    But there’s a consistent trend over the last decade for pretty much every school in the country. Some of it is the product on the field, or the home schedule...but some of it just seems to be an overall draining desire to attend games.
     
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    SI is employing some bottle of the barrel writers these days
     
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    She's the one that's gone viral for trying to chat up Rudd on the plane, then ended up in the picture with him in the Chiefs locker room.
     
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    I enjoy going to one game a year but I’m not someone who has enjoyed going to games. Same with concerts. I might go to one a year but experiencing something live to me doesn’t enhance the experience all that much. When you factor in the cost, travel and having to deal with all those people it’s not that appealing more than once a year.
     
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  8. electronic

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    Cost has been rising significantly over that time period as well.

    I don't think this is the brain buster that a lot of folks are making it out to be.

    Shit games.
    Expensive.
    Pain in the ass to travel.
     
  9. Taques

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    dying sport, ive often said it!
     
  10. herb.burdette

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    Ohio State flex prices their tickets. For 2020, the cheapest ticket is $63 a seat for Buffalo. The most expensive is Michigan at $220 a ticket.

    The 7 game season ticket is $702 face value for one ticket to each game.

    Cost is a huge issue. I’m dropping $500 on tickets, parking, and food to take my wife and three kids to watch OSU beat Buffalo 63-7.
     
  11. Big Ern McCracken

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    Cost plus the additional of being able to watch every game on TV. Would rather watch any game I choose in my den then to pay a lot of money to watch one game.
     
  12. Fusiontegra

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    Just for your kids to inevitably pretend to be Michigan fans to piss you off.
     
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    :booger:
     
  14. DollarBillHokie

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    The advantage of following shittier teams is more games are competitive and the tickets are cheaper.
     
  15. herb.burdette

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    We don’t even joke about this sort of thing in the Burdette household.
     
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  16. War Grundle

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    This is me. I love watching multiple games on Saturday’s.
     
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    my tailgate is mentioned when she talks about Clemson

    #lookatme
     
  18. JGator1

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    It's better than the usual "cfb attendance is dropping" article but that's not saying much. In the quest for tv dollars AD's sold out the fans who attend the games and they've been paying the price for a few years. Kickoff times being set as few as 7 days prior doesn't help.
     
  19. CF3234

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    I never understood the CFB fans who plan their entire fall around CFB. I'm talking about the ones who drive 4+ hours each way 6-8 weekends a year. Though now that I think about it, everyone I know like that is 60+ years old. So I guess as that age group stops going to games, attendance has gone down with it. Younger generation seems much happier having that party at home instead of heading out to the stadium.

    IDK, I enjoy UM games because even when we are bad, most of my adult life, it's an excuse to tailgate with friends. Getting up the energy to go watch us play Savannah State is a lot easier when the stadium is 20ish minutes from home though.
     
  20. TC

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    ...television?
     
  21. Mayonegg

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    I am precisely the opposite. As long as I can afford it, I’m there.
     
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  22. texasraider

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    I stopped attending for a variety of reasons.

    - shit tier on field product
    - shit tier in game experience (ads on ads on ads and constant game stoppage)
    - cost to attend games when fewer and fewer of my college friends are going to games
    - being able to watch multiple games at home with some of my college friends
    - game times being mostly at 11am in the past few years

    all this even tough I have access to suite tickets whenever I want
     
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  23. beist

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    That is a long article. Is there any new insight in there beyond the (obvious) factors that have already been thoroughly discussed and agreed upon by every college football fan I've ever spoken to?
     
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    What should be concerning about the Ohio State drop is that the product on the field has been great and Columbus Metro is a 2.2 million population with no pro sports to compete.

    Every business or lobbyist in Columbus buys those tickets to entertain clients and they are still dropping.

    It’s also 100-120 miles from Cleveland, Akron/Canton, Dayton, and Cincinnati. Each of those is 700,000-2.3 million people within a hour and half car ride away.
     
  25. herb.burdette

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    I wonder when we start seeing live broadcasts on video boards around the stadiums. Four games on video scoreboards while watching live.
     
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    We also have the exhilaration of knowing we very well may lose to Savannah State, FIU or LA Tech
     
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    It's too expensive, not worth it to me.

    Tickets: $450 for end zone or corner Ez
    Hotel: $400 for the shittiest hotel in Auburn, 2night mini
    Board Dog: $120

    So I'm at a grand before food, travel costs, etc
     
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  28. Mosby

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    Was it me...or was 2019 one of the most boring seasons in awhile? Big games seemed few and far between.
     
  29. devine

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    You sound fun
     
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    The worst part is the million commercials and reviews after every big play. Games take forever
     
  31. NothingIsOT

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    I can’t stand sitting in a cramped seat next to someone I don’t know. Then getting interrupted and forced to stand up so someone can go to the bathroom mid play. Then figuring out who gets the arm rest.

    I go to local games. I go to one game a year. But the home experience is just better.
     
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  32. CF3234

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    The gap between the top 5-7 and everyone else is widening every year. Look at the recruiting rankings. 90+% of the 5*s are going to one of Bama, UGA, Clemson, and OSU. As the gap grows, those conference games that used to prop up schedules have gone away. Now most of the National Championship contenders play 2-3 challenging games a season and the rest are games where starters are getting pulled at halftime.
     
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  33. dallasdawg

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    games can be fun, but they are mostly a beating

    i also enjoy watching all football games, not just the one i’m at that day. driving, tailgating, getting into the stadium, watching a 4 hour game, getting out of the stadium, driving back can literally completely isolate you from watching any other game that day. this problem is especially compounded when you are playing south dakota and ohio state is at oregon
     
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  34. tylerdolphin

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    I still haven't made it to a Miami/FSU game yet and that'll probably be the next time I make the effort to travel to the US specifically for a game. It's expensive and football season is a bad time for me to travel for the most part.
     
  35. JGator1

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    The hotel price gouging is absurd. I assume it's similar for most people on tmb, once you run out of friends still in undergrad/grad school you're stuck with the hotel nonsense or driving 2-4 hours each way on Saturday (mix that with alcohol). In addition bars/restaurants charge "gameday prices" + cover as another way to squeeze more money out of fans.
     
  36. beist

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    Every team having two bye weeks contributed to it, but yeah it did seem like a pretty boring season.
     
  37. Cornelius Suttree

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    My dad has had season tickets for 30+ years and lives 3 miles from the stadium and still doesn't go to every game

    Nevermind the horrible product on the field and the length of games. Lines at bathrooms, expensive concessions, crowded concourses that are difficult for old people to navigate. Early kickoffs in the south when it's brutally hot don't help either

    Late night kicks in the Mountain West hurt attendance in Fort Collins, Boise, Laramie, Logan, etc
     
  38. Redav

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    It's not worth it imo.
     
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  39. IrishLAX2

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    There are generally 9 weekends that make the entire year for South Bend hotels.

    3 night minimums and at least $350 per night for the worst hotels in town.
     
  40. tylerdolphin

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    When I was a bit younger I always said if one of my teams were in a SB, National Championship (lol) or WS I'd be there no matter what.

    Don't really feel the same way now.
     
  41. TC

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    Special fucking place
     
  42. G46

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    My major gripe is the hotel price gouging
     
  43. devine

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    Why are you guys not staying at Airbnb’s
     
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    Because 90% of them have figured out price discovery too
     
  45. Mosby

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    The difference in talent is a huge problem. Watching the Natty and realizing the still significant talent gap even though the team I root for finished top 10ish was depressing.
     
  46. Where Eagles Dare

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    I cant do round trips in one day anymore. It's too much and I fall asleep on the way home
     
  47. Tobias

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    i love to tailgate
     
  48. Doc Louis

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    Would like to see how many international students are accepted at schools and the % of those that attend games.
     
  49. Pasta88

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    The increasing quality of tv broadcasts the past 10-15 years has to be the biggest factor. I didn’t read the article but I’d imagine attendance was much higher in the pre HDTV days.
     
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  50. CF3234

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    2-3% at most imo.