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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by bro, Aug 8, 2022.
isn’t the “messiah” a huge part of the differences between Muslims, Christians and Jews?
My man I suppose we'll have to agree to disagree on many things. The term bigot is strong. I would legit love to sit down with you and discuss further. That will never happen but I just mean I think we could have a meaningful discussion. And I could be better spoken on explaining what I mean. I don't do the best job here.
I blame Paul for all of this.
Well, now that we've cleared that up. What's better, The Declaration of Independence or Trump's First Inaugural?
I think we need trump to commit more crimes to change the topic of this thread.
I don’t know how you arrive at this from an out of context quotation. Agree with it or not, the New Testament is pretty frequently referred to as a new covenant.
We can quibble over whether you’d consider the early Christian’s a subsect of the Jews like the first century Romans did, where they considered them akin to the scribes, sadducees or Pharisees, etc.
I don’t know that I would consider them that or, rather that they would either. There’s multiple letters / books handling Jewish/gentile relations, and how to integrate a population they’d previously been hostile too, etc.
TLDR, you’d have a tough time selling me on the Jews=Christians idea after about the first 10 years of the religions existence.
It's harsh, but not sure what other word to use when someone says a man loving a man is immoral. I don't think you're a bad person, I just strongly disagree with your view on this subject.
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Really good way of putting this. Jesus never called his followers Christians. They called themselves that. Of course it was Jesus' hope that they would all be unified. Well...it didn't work out that way.
the fuck are you people going on about
Religion is immoral and beyond pathetic. Fuckin throw every religious text in a volcano and hope the traditions/stories fizzle out after a generation or two.
Going to not post in here again off topic, unless directly replied or questioned. Apologies to all who don't care about this topic.
(Jordan Klepper interview):
“I’ve educated myself what’s in the constitution”
“Have you read it? It’s pretty short”
“The constitution of America?”
“I’ve not read the whole thing, no. You’ve read the whole thing?”
“Yes, it’s remarkably short”
“Alright, I doubt that”
Not sure how it is in other denominations, but growing up catholic I never cracked a bible once to read from it. Everything was taught or read from text books, missal(ette?), shit like that. They definitely weren’t encouraging anyone to go read the whole thing or even read what it actually says.
Rand Paul is/was The Real UT ’s fav senator, for real. Yet again, proving he’s a colossal idiot
I appreciate what you all are doing but can you do it in another thread?
I don't give a fuck about anyone's preferred religious text and what it teaches.
To be fair, just because you don’t give a fuck about a woman’s right to choose or the prevention of two girls wanting to get married, doesn’t mean that a large majority of this country, and this board don’t feel otherwise.
I was tipsy scrolling through the last few pages enjoying the conversation and totally forgot this was the MAL thread until just now
Guys it isn’t news that seavie is a religious weirdo can we just shut the fuck up rather than having the same argument for the 1000th time with him
What the fuck are you talking about?
You said you don’t care what Seavie’s religious books teach. What has been implemented upon the US. Some do.
Iron Mickey correct me if I’m wrong. But you were non-religious way back in the day. You later did theology work to audit yourself. And you returned from that with renewed disgust?
That is an insane connection to make.
I'm not religious and don't care about any religious texts so I don't care about women's rights or equality?
we literally have a theology thread where it can be discussed. Maybe you’d get more religious nuts in there.
I don’t think he meant you. I think he meant people care about it and that’s why it needs to be discussed.I just think me worded the post weird.
how do regular posters still say things like this
i got my fill of religious discussions by like 2011
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Jews. Christ would urge those that have accepted he was/is the messiah to spread the word to their fellow Jews.
In today’s world that would probably be viewed as intolerant, so most choose to make a distinction between the two groups and call them different religions. If you’re Jewish today and don’t accept Christ, it certainly makes Christianity a different religion than yours. But if you’re Christian, you can’t view it that way without destroying the entire philosophical underpinning of the religion you claim to follow and directly opposing the word of God.
But saying they are different religions allows a level of acceptance in todays society that the religion itself cannot abide. And going along with that separation is an independent moral choice that probably (almost certainly imo) makes the world a better place with less fighting.
But it’s a moral decision independent of the text. And you making that choice for yourself based on the understanding of how the world works today is better than blindly adhering to the code of the Book which implicitly argues for erasure.
I mean if you want to ignore the word of God, that’s your choice. Just don’t say that Christianity and Judaism being different faiths is based on the word of your Lord. Because it isn’t.
If you believe that humans invented religion, then you’d have to also believe that we’d just invent something else to justify our evil behavior towards each other to replace it if we got rid of it.
When that religious doctrine you don’t care about starts to impede on actual womens rights then yeah I’d hope you’d have some empathy and care.
It’s based on the followers of the two faiths/religions. They are identifying themselves. Are you all of a sudden against people self identifying?
I made it quite clear that it’s the superior moral choice to do so (imo) but it isn’t the one Jesus argued for. My point was that we all use some degree of moral relativism because morality isn’t something that can be independently measured.
With my thumbs.
a ton of that differentiation is propaganda
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Should have went to a better school
Not sure what is happening on this page. Can we go back to shitting on Trump?
This was a Notre Dame theology joke, I'm sure your correspondence course was fine
the book of John is literally a century past Jesus appeal to unconverted Jews. It’s a Jewish sect.
Speaking of correspondence, have you been writing anything? If I recall you were tossing around something on local governments that sounded compelling.
Not you, not me and certainly not some book that expresses an ideology that is far from impeachable truth and hardly a national or global consensus. As a straight person I’m no better than a gay person and no more correct on how I live my life, so why should how I act be considered “moral” or “worthy” and the other point of view be considered wrong? Let the straight be straight, the gay be gay and move on.
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