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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by snowfx2, Apr 8, 2015.
Downey killed it in Oppenheimer
Lego Avengers: Code Red. It’s on Disney+ and it’s awesome.
I’ve always been team 616. Miguel’s dumb ass doesn’t know anything.
The mainstream comic universe is 616
Doom is cool, but if you really want to go forward with Kang, wouldn't it be really easy to explain a recasting? like is there an easier character to recast?
Chris Evans was phenomenal in Knives out as well
Making the MCU 616 is the equivalent of spitting in the face of the loyal comic book community. It's also fucking stupid
What? Why would the star of the movie be the 4th lead?????
Doesn’t seem like they know what to do with that movie.
The whole enterprise feels rudderless right now. So shocking compared to how well structured and planned out the Infinity Saga was.
Blade is dead, they just haven't announced it yet (or haven't admitted it to themselves).
Ali is too old anyway and with him leaving, that'll be the excuse to cancel the project altogether. Likely, if he comes back at all, it'll be as a D+ show, or maybe a one-off like Werewolf By Night, though those are being scaled back too.
Seeing how bad things are going right now and watching Sony, Fox, and WB crash and burn their comic franchises makes the success of the Infinity Saga even more impressive.
They truly did catch lightning in a bottle and it’s so clearly not replicable.
Phase 1-3 managed to capture the cultural zeitgeist in a way a film franchise hasn't done since, arguably, the original Star Wars trilogy. It brought in everyone from hardcore nerds to casual moviegoers and left people regularly satisfied.
It also made the MCU a victim of its own success. Endgame became, for everyone but the hardcore audience, a fitting "jumping off" point. It was the biggest, most epic, TV series finale ever. Spider-Man No Way Home served as a nice coda to it all, but after that, everything else has felt like a TV spinoff show that has its small following but most people just say "what's the point?"
They’re trying to wrap it all around Kang but they’re taking the longest route possible to get there so people are getting uninterested. He’s also not as good of a bad guy as Thanos.
That's true, but it's also the case that the core cast of stars (sans Spider-Man, and the now-finished GOTG) just aren't as popular as the P1-3 main heroes (Cap, Thor, Stark).
Imagine if Return of the Jedi in 1983 was followed up by a "Luke encounters dangers as he tries to rebuild the Jedi Order" movie in 1985. It'd make bank, as did Spider-Man NWH and GOTG3. But then, imagine Lucas following that up with several movies in the late 80s focusing on 3PO, Lando, Admiral Ackbar, etc. Hardcore Star Wars fans would come back for it, but the casual watcher would just shrug it off, as they have Dr. Strange, Ant-Man, Cpt. Marvel, Black Panther without Black Panther, etc. That's the MCU's struggle right now. Their characters arent' as popular right now, because the franchise is no longer part of the cultural zeitgeist. People have moved on. It doesn't help that their movies just aren't well-written compared to the best of Phase 1-3 (which had fewer movies but typically were of better quality vs the "too much/too poor" of the current era)>
Honestly, the best thing they could do would be to power ahead until Secret Wars and then just stop for a decade and reboot fresh in like 2036 or so. That'll never happen. Disney gotta eat. But if they insist on continuing with multiple movies every year, they're going to have to get their budgets under control, and Fiege is going to have to hire better writers.
Also, as I’ve griped about itt before, they took Hulk who everyone loved in the first 2 Avengers and Ragnorak and just made him a secondary character when he’s Marvel royalty
I still think the MCU can pull everyone back in if they nail the F4 & X-Men.
X-Men especially will bring back casual viewers.
Spider Man is like vastly more popular than any of the original Avengers what are you talking about?
Spider Man is a top 5 character in popularity in comic books overall
I know. That's what I said. the core cast of stars (sans Spider-Man, and the now-finished GOTG) just aren't as popular as the P1-3 main heroes (Cap, Thor, Stark).
"sans Spider-Man" means he is as popular (moreso, as you say) than Cap/Thor/Stark
There are a ton of adults that grew up watching the X-Men cartoon and then were in their late teens when the live action movie came out that would go and see that over all the other movies with characters they don’t know about.
This seems relevant to the most recent southpatk episode.
Always tons of F4 casting rumors being thrown around but I really like the idea of Erin Moriarty(Annie/Starlight from The Boys) as Sue.
The multiverse saga has been a complete fucking shitshow for the MCU. They needed the F4 and X-Men immediately after the End Game hard reset to keep the momentum going but instead decided for w/e reason to flood people with 40 TV shows and people immediately lost interest after the first wave of WandaVision, Loki, Falcon& Winter Soldier and Hawkeye because those still were about Avengers saga characters. Nobody gives a fuck about She-Hulk, Moon Knight etc because they haven't had a movie intro yet. Then you had that disaster of a show Secret Invasion which needs to just be retconneced and deleted from everyone's memory.
If they nail F4 and X-Men and pivot into the next era of the MCU that leads into Doom, Galactus, Onslaught etc yea it'll win back fans, but setting a proper Galactus and Onslaught saga will take another 10-15 years worth of films and at this point I'm not sure Marvel has the juice left to pull it off with how mediocre the recent post End Game films that aren't directed by James Gunn has been, who just happens to work for DC now.
I do wonder if they'll try to age match Sue and Reed a little more than previous iterations.
Loki 2 has been pretty fun. Haven’t watched the latest episode. There’s still good stuff mixed in, they just got over confident and too ambitious. They thought they could make their content work like comic books. We were all excited about it when they announced it. Problem is, like with comic books, there’s a lot of variance in quality of projects and it can be downright confusing and intimidating for people to keep up with everything.
They need to cut the amount of projects, Get to secret wars, bring back the heavy hitters for that and make it an event, then hard reset and slow build with the xmen as the main attraction
Interesting. I thought I read they decided to release it as a binge because they wanted all the episodes out before Xmas/NYE after Loki got pushed back. Looks intense.
That looks pretty good. Looks closer to the next flux tone, which might be nice
I loved She-Hulk and Moonknight but I’m in the minority
They’re unionized now thankfully
They're panicking if they bring back all the OG avengers. Would be a disservice IMO
Those looks excellent
I always assumed all the OGs were coming back in some shape or form as soon as they announced the Kang Dynasty and Secret Wars as the next Avengers films.
I thought I posted the tweet but guess I didn’t, one of the script supervisors for Blade said that Variety article was 100% BS so I wouldn’t put a ton of stock in it.
Makes sense the day after that Echo trailer
This looks good
I don’t think that surprises anyone. I’ll support anything Iman does because I adore her. Past that, what’s the most exciting thing, Brie in that white tank top?
This theory has really taken off, and it’s clear they purposely leave the X on the screen. Don’t see it being a major plot point though, probably a Deadpool 3 teaser after credits.
There’s a rumor going around about the ending that could be interesting.
Grammer’s Beast shows up
Look at this pretty boy. I like Carol’s Ms Marvel themed dress.
I got a feeling Feige’s got a crazy post credit scene cooked up.
The timing / lead up to this one feels awkward
I will see it at some point but not sure when
Not sure how many there are but one video leaked. I wasn't even looking for it. Just scrolling and boom someone had it posted.
Marvels only has one post credit scene I believe.
Did Fury yell "black girl magic!" at the end?