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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by snowfx2, Apr 8, 2015.
No one gave a shit about Iron Man before RDJ.
It was a character people knew about.
The difference in Phase 1 vs Phase 4 is that Phase 4 has a much bigger pool to play in.
Phase 1 had only a half-dozen projects spread out across four heroes. Two Iron Man movies, a Cap movie, a Hulk movie, a Thor movie, and a team-up movie. Half of those were average films at best, but the good ones were great and the teamup was a novelty.
Phase 4 has fifty times as many characters. Not all of them are interconnected. There's no big team up movie that's being built up (any time soon, not in this phase at least). And half the projects are average at best. The difference is being bombarded with multiple mediocre shows/movies and occasionally hit with a great one. Phase four is more exhausting. Phase three had a ton going on too but those projects were almost all good-to-great, and the build-up to Infinity War created a fever-pitch atmosphere.
Phase 4 has just felt lethargic and wheel-spinny. It takes three movies and 2 TV shows to advance to the next step in the overall story whereas, in the past, it would take one or two movies tops.
No one gave a shit about Iron Man before RDJ but everyone immediately gave a shit after RDJ, and made Iron Man 2 a bigger hit than the first one despite being a much worse movie.
No one gave a shit about the Eternals before the movie came out...and people still don't. Why? The quality of the movie wasn't good enough to excite people.
This isn't a "Marvel fatigue?!" comment, either. It's just an acknowledgment that Feige/Disney haven't handled like the expected and predictable come-down from Endgame (and the post-RDJ/Evans era) with their best work. Trying to reset the MCU, while also introducing a shit ton of new characters, AND pumping out almost nonstop content has resulted in diminished quality overall, leading to the worst reviews the MCU has gotten so far and lesser box office returns than initially projected.
That said, Black Panther (assuming it's not a hot mess) will make bank and right the ship. Ant-Man 3, while not a big property, will have Kang and will feel like a proper "next step" in the big-picture storyline. It should be great. This year and last have been subpar, but things are about to turn around, I predict.
It was a character Marvel still had rights to because no one gave enough of a shit about Iron Man to even buy him at a steep discount during Marvel’s near-brush with bankruptcy.
Ahh this argument again
I’d go back 80 years for them thangs also
Phase 4 has certainly had ups and downs but they’ve produced absolutely new superstars with Florence Pugh, Simu Liu, Tatiana (which we already knew), Iman…
Gemma Chan can just not do anything and it’ll still be the greatest performance in MCU history.
New BP2 trailer
Have we heard any rumor about if they're addressing the 'how' of T'Challa's death?
I'm not watching that or any other BP2 trailer. The first one was enough to get me hyped. I've seen enough.
There are so many questions surrounding this movie still; they've done a pretty great job not revealing too much.
Also some rumor this is going to be one of the longest non-teamup MCU movies.
I saw 2:40
Wrote DS2 and Loki
They kinda dropped a pretty major reveal at the end of the trailer that came out today tho.
I feel like that’s a misdirect but we’ll see.
Pop and Lego are putting that out constantly with zero fucks given so I hope there's a swerve.
Probably temporary, if anything.
BP ticket acquired
Confirmed my suspicion
that Namor carries the spirit of a God, Quetzalcoatl, like BP and Moon Knight. His hate for the surface and namely Wakanda has to come from the fact that they built Wakanda and flourish off the very meteorite that sunk Atlantis.
I don't think it's Atlantis. They are from some Aztec city.
ok that ties to Q better.
now the question is does the protector dragon from Chang Shi tie in some way. Also it showed Q in the hall of Gods in Thor L&T
Okoye criminally underrated
That's gonna be pretty tough to avoid.
Nigerian Nightmare Forever
Angela Bassett is 64. Wtf.
That’s my wife talking to me when I want to do a cannabis.
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Marvel: Only the most broken people, can be great leaders
could the meteor have destroyed Atlantis and forced them to relocate to Mesoamerica?
Quality cameo at the end.
what is that bootleg voice though
Reviews sound INSANE!!! Told myself I’d re-read the incredible Man-Thing run before I watched this but I never did and I can’t wait. LFG!!!
What is this?
I think we've got a lot of upcoming storylines combining/jumping off here. With references to Man-Thing, Elsa Bloodstone(of the Blade, Moon Knight, Black Knight ilk), and Thunderbolts, where this story goes could be all over the place.
I'm excited for the presentation style.
wasn't it released today? has anyone watched yet?
Is that in disney +
yes, I just looked I guess it's just a short movie (listed as 54 minutes so probably more like 40 minutes of runtime).
I thought it was a mini-series for some reason.
I really liked it
Elsa is a cutie