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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by snowfx2, Apr 8, 2015.
We all knew this day would come
Marvel is Yondu
It reminded me of those AoS seasons where you question if they spent more than an hour or two writing it
Should Kevin Feige step down????
No, he should hire better writers, give more time for VFX artists to work, and producer fewer projects per year.
In other words, it's a Disney problem, not a Feige problem.
They just have too many irons in the fire. Too many characters to keep track of and plot threads to intertwine. They definitely need to scale back.
Cutting down on projects would help with your other two issues. They need to stop wasting so much money on so many mediocre shows. Just do 2 - 3 per year like the movies. That will make the good writers and vfx artists not spread so thin.
I think we’ll see Hercules again
Just seems like there’s too much opportunity for a Herc/Thor buddy comedy
Do we know if Hemsworth will do another Thor? Isn't he taking a break because of his health issues?
pretty sure he's said he's open to it.
Well then bring it on if they get a good script together. More like Ragnarok and less like L&T.
I'd be curious to know how Taika took the reception of L&T. He does so much that's incredibly entertaining, L&T just missed the mark on too many things.
Didn't it come out that he was making it up/writing it on the fly? Like he wasn't fully into it? Or am I thinking of something else.
Haven't read too much about it but in the case of MCU movies that have to at least partially feed a larger narrative, it's certainly easy to see where a director may not be as in love with every part of a story that's been semi-chosen for them(I don't know how true this is fwiw) as opposed to an original one they wrote.
Taika Should not get another Thor movie. He completely mailed in L and T
I don't really buy that. Ragnarok could have gone sideways a bunch of different ways in the same way L&T did. It's kind of miraculous that it didn't, which is part of what made it so great. And the fact that Ragnarok was received the way it did made it far more likely that a L&T situation would happen the way it did, as well.
But that makes assumptions in his interest in the different stories that we simply don't know.
We'd be making assumptions either way, right?
I don't know what his state of mind was or whatever. Maybe you're right. But I think there's a ton of examples of a movie having huge success doing certain things, and then the makers of that movie falling into the trap of leaning too far into the wrong things because of that success trying to replicate it, And whether it's Taika or the whole cast, I think the entire thing kind of fell into that trap in L&T.
Let Taika try again but implement a strict “no threesomes on set” rule.
Ragnarok just had so many great characters and performances. L&T just felt like one miss after another.
I think that's true...but I give Taika the benefit of the doubt based on his record in things he's clearly invested in.
Love and Thunder has a good movie somewhere in there. It was ruined in post-production, imo.
I think Feige is stretched too thin and he basically just let TW do whatever he wanted without any oversight. The result is a movie that just indulged a lot of the director's worst tendencies, something that happens a lot in movies like this. Batman Returns with Tim Burton, Iron Man 3 with Shane Black, Batman v Superman with Zack Snyder, etc.
Hopefully Marvel is learning a lot of lessons right now.
I know the RT on Secret Invasions is shit...but what are the viewer numbers like? Because nothing Disney-related is learning any lessons until people just flat out stop watching/showing up.
Disney+ is struggling overall, but they don't release any streaming numbers (one of the big reasons the studios are holding out during the strike right now). Social media engagement is way down vs the early batch of MCU shows though.
I’m sure it will suck
I'm kind of just assuming all their stuff is going to be mediocre until proven otherwise. Only thing in the last couple of years I really liked was GotG 3.
Deadpool isn't making that date, not unless the strike ends...today.
Even then, it's going to be rushed with shoddy VFX. Hollywood has a terrible history of movies getting ruined as a result of the strike.
Vfx has already been pretty shit lately. Imagine how bad it will be in the 12-18 months post strike?
Or hell maybe this will give vfx houses a chance to catch up? I don't know.
You didn't like any of these?
No Way Home
I thought all of those were at least a 7 out of 10. And I'd put No Way Home in at least the top 10 of all MCU movies.
To each their own if you didn't like them. I just think it's easy to dump on them because of a few recent misses and the disjointed feeling post-End Game and forget that they have put out some really good stuff, too.
No Way Home and Shang Chi seem like longer ago I guess. Loved No Way Home. I liked Shang Chi until I didn't. Third act was bad.
None of the shows have I loved or would I rank any higher than a 6.
No Way Home came out Christmas of 2021, which does seem pretty ridiculous that it was only a year and a half ago. Shang-Chi was a little less than 2 years ago, I think.
I would also put the second Dr. Strange movie in that group, but it seems like I enjoyed that more than most ITT.
Strange was solid. I did enjoy it for the most part.
The fan cast that I never knew I needed
He could be a pretty good Doom but probably wouldn't be my first choice.
I'm going to be super pissed if Marvel fucks up Doom.
It was very lazy and predictable. Nothing interesting really happened. Seems like something that was mailed in once they learned there was going to be a writers strike.
Markus, McFeely, and the Russos are doing a Netflix movie together, but Iger needs to offer them big money to get them back in the MCU fold.
I totally get them wanting to get away from the MCU for a bit after a ridiculous run of Winter Soldier, Civil War, Infinity War, and Endgame. But I bet they’ve got some stories cooked up.
They openly said they would come back for Secret Wars but they already have someone else attached the Avengers films I think.
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