I was talking to myself. originally I posted what has Beyoncé ever been good in because I assumed it was an acting role and thought that was a terrible idea, but then I clicked and read it was for the soundtrack and I got no problem with that.
Marvel has consistently been excellent in their casting choices. There are many diverse female actors who would bring much more acting talent to any role in that film. They also don’t need the publicity for casting someone like Beyoncé for Black Panther 2. That film has enough hype already built behind it.
lol she will spend a day on song and be done for a quick Mi Probably a council member or some shit. Quick cameos that recurs is though the universe
So I randomly decided to rewatch DoFP tonight, and I was thinking about my rankings for the “core” X-Men films (no Deadpool). I thought it would be easy, and it was, but only at the top. Probably shows how far these films have fallen for the most part. 1. Logan 2. DoFP 3. X2 4. First Class 5. X-Men 6. The Wolverine 7. Apocalypse 8. X3 9. Dark Phoenix 10. Origins Wolverine Everything after #6 was really, really tough. And yes, I am aware we rank movies in this thread pretty much every other week or so.
I'd move Origins Wolverine from 10 to 7 just because Liev Schreiber was so good as Sabretooth. But can't disagree otherwise.
Couldn't argue with that move. Like I said, everything below The Wolverine was pretty much a roll of the dice because they were all so bad.
For me, I'd flip First Class and X2. Those bottom 4 should be everyone's bottom 4. I can't believe just how completely boring Dark Phoenix was, tough to make it all the way through. X3 and Origins completely shit all over source material. Apocalypse was bad, but a couple cool enough scenes and acting performances to be above those 3, but not above anything else. That needed to be a 2-part movie, not Apocalypse as a standard one off villain. The Wolverine just couldn't nail that final act, otherwise it's solid before then.
I really couldn't agree more. The bottom 4 was basically deciding which movie was terrible in their own different ways. X3 and Wolverine Origins were utterly lazy cash grabs who handed things to writers/directors who didn't give a shit about previous films or the source material. Dark Phoenix... well, I don't really know what they were thinking with that movie. Like you said, The Wolverine could have been great if the final act didn't fall flat on its face. Apocalypse, under the right creative team, could have been exceptional. They definitely had the stage set after an excellent DoFP, a great cast (especially casting Oscar Isaac as Apocalypse), and an amazing history of comics to draw from for the script. They just made him essentially a lame one off villain. Having him win at the end ( like Thanos) and launching into an Age of Apocalypse movie/s could have been incredible.
I'm not really sure what to make of The Wolverine. I kind of like the movie, but some of the plot is just weird and doesn't seem like it makes sense with Wolverine as a character. The love story with the daughter is weird, and I don't really get the plot with the Japanese guy who apparently believes the key to Wolverine's healing and long life is adamantium, which doesn't seem right. I'd watch the hell out of a Wolverine/Yukio movie, though.
It hurts my heart that every X-men movie was dogshit compared to the MCU. Growing up I thought the Avengers comics were lame as fuck. Fast forward 30 years and the MCU just shits all over the X franchise.
The Eric storyline of XMen First Class is some of the best XMen shit out there. The movie’s failure was its 3rd act and becoming bombastic blah
Agreed but my point was X-Men was a superior comic than the Avengers but the MCU was way better than the X movie franchise...I mean they even shit the bed with with how they handled Deadpool in Wolverine: Origins
Oh, I agree 100%. I’ve always been more of a DC guy, but, when it came to Marvel, Avengers were an afterthought to me compared to X-Men. With that said, even compared to DC, Marvel is on a roll right now with X-men. Even if you haven’t read anything in a while, the House of X and Powers of X series is incredible.
yeah, Logan DOFP X2 First Class X-Men The Wolverine The rest are just varying degrees of steaming shit.
I might just be me but I almost wouldn't even categorize Logan as a X Men movie or comic book movie, not to say that it wasn't fantastic in its own right. It felt more like a classic Western, just with a couple of X men characters instead of [insert generic cowboy]
I honestly hesitated to include it, but the movie used a lot of the previous films for story aspects in Logan. I thought it felt like more of a X-Men film than something like Deadpool. Like they finally handed over the reigns to end the best character in their film series like he deserved.
It was like an old Western style Last of Us film adaptation, except Joel has metal claws and has to also take care of an old man with Alzheimers, and Ellie is way more unbalanced and has murder powers. And yes I know Old Man Logan is an actual comic, but the film itself felt nothing like a comic book movie other than a few comic book characters being in it.
I admire Kinberg's career in that he keeps getting major studio work despite putting out shit for movies. FFS, this man was the main writer or co-writer of Apocalypse, Trank's F4, X3, and Dark Phoenix (which Fox also let him direct).
X-men movie time line X1: oh cool, some shitty dialogue (see: Storm) but ok. Hooray Ian X2: ok, cool But lol at pyro, setting up Phoenix? Word X3: oh hey Juggernaut, rad. Everything else = meh Origins: Wolverine: intro was crazy af, everything else especially Deadpool oh no First Class: OMG Fassbender, I hate you January DOFP: Shadowcat doesn’t have those powers but whatevs...hooray Apocalypse: goddamnit Logan: Jizz Everywhere Dark Phoenix:
Logan is still an X-Men movie, if for no other reason than the little mutant kids running around like the Lost Boys. The first two acts I grant you, but that third is act is very comic book.
I barely even knew anything about the Avengers besides their core characters prior to the MCU. I was all X-Men and Spider-Man growing up
I am extremely fond of First Class. I enjoy a well-done, grounded superhero film. It’s refreshing when the studio can squeeze that in amongst the countless world-ending event superhero films and still make it compelling. In that regard, Dark Phoenix completely failed and was an absolute abomination.
My preference: 1. DOFP 2. X-Men 3. Logan 4. X2 5. First Class 6. Dark Phoenix 7. The Wolverine 8. Apocalypse 9. The last stand 10. Origins