Mass shooting thread

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  1. Redav

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    Whoops!
     
  2. DUCKMOUTH

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    So you agree stricter gun laws are needed? Any innocent shot is a tragedy
     
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  3. Henry Blake

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    Now tell us how we should vaccinate POC to end the pandemic.
     
  4. steamengine

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    No one can help you understand what a mass shooting is. That’s on you.
     
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  5. Harry Twatter

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    Yes, I agree on both
     
  6. Hoss Bonaventure

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    Houston has a higher homicide rate than Chicago, NYC and LA. It’s also now legal to just walk around with any gun you want anywhere. Guys, I think I’m in danger.
     
  7. DUCKMOUTH

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    Excellent. Well let’s focus on that. Chicago is used as a rallying cry for gun rights activists. The whole “Chicago has strict gun laws, but look how many people got shot this weekend proves they don’t work”. To only post about Chicago gives off the impression you may feel that way.


    I’m not knocking you, but just explaining why you are getting push back
     
  8. DUCKMOUTH

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  9. steamengine

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  10. fucktx

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    I was in Chicago for Labor Day and had a nice time

    Crazy
     
  11. Harry Twatter

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    Yes, I’ve made two posts in this thread, months apart. They were both about shockingly high gun crimes numbers in the city. I guess I read these headlines and then find it odd that no one mentions it in here.

    Don’t know if many are desensitized, or only focus on the more high profile stories, but to dismiss the fact that 67 people were shot and a 4yr old child was killed is sad. And to attack the guy that just linked the article, with no other snarky/slanted comment is also weird and shows some insecurities.

    Chicago is an interesting city with these debates, because there continues to be crazy amounts of violent crimes there but there doesn’t seem to be a lot going on to change that, it’s just viewed as normal, which is terrible.
     
  12. DUCKMOUTH

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    For sure it is…. But it’s heavily viewed as a democratic city so the far right use it to shoot down gun law debates. The truth is every major city has poverty and poverty is a big driving force behind violence. Chicago is not even in the top 20, but the gun nuts like to ignore the cities ahead of them because many are in red states.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-cities/
     
  13. DUCKMOUTH

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    Chicago in the summer is one of the best cities in the US
     
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  14. fucktx

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    Also, I wonder why people call you a paste eater Harry Twatter

    You parrot the same shit that Trump did without actually reading about the situation yourself

    You consistently have shit takes on virtually everything and you’re always mad

    Not long ago you were mad because Cole Beasley was getting more criticism than Hopkins for being an anti vaxxer and you talked about race

    Wonder why people would think you’re a Trump supporting piece of shit. Maybe because your posts reflect that? Get fucked, nerd.
     
  15. electronic

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  16. Redav

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    No one mentioned race until he did. Almost like he knew what he was doing
     
  17. The Banks

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    Because you apparently have a second grade understanding of rates.

     
  18. fucktx

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    Let’s not forget the time he talked about unemployment checks too

    Wonder why someone would consider him a Trump supporting paste eater

    How’s the invermectin treating you Harry Twatter


     
  19. Harry Twatter

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    Lol, I’m always mad? I’m so mad I’m telling strangers to get fucked.
     
  20. fucktx

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    People were mean to me on the internet for regurgitating conservative talking points this is why trump won

    am I right
     
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  21. Harry Twatter

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    I’m talking about mass shootings, in a mass shooting thread.

    You can’t help but attack an individual or turn this into something else. And by the way, my comment about unemployment checks was accurate. There are tons of job openings and still high unemployment numbers. Why would some people work 35+ hours/week when the government will pay them not to? Don’t want to derail here, just think you digging up a post from months ago in another thread is odd.
     
  22. CaneKnight

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    No no, let's see how long mr "survivalist" survives in gen pop. I'd prefer he's spends the rest of his days as someone's footrest
     
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    O we got ourselves "what about black on black crime" guy
     
  24. HoosDaMan

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    We all agree guns are bad. We should ban most of them
     
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  26. steamengine

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    Now do the winter
     
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  27. Hoss Bonaventure

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    That’s not how unemployment works at all. You only get a percentage that your employer covers based on how long you worked there. You also only get so many weeks of it. It isn’t infinite and you aren’t supposed to take a job for less than 10-15% of what you were currently making. If you were making $90k you aren’t expected to go take a job flipping burgers just to take anything. That’s what the benefits are for. They help while you find another position that you’re qualified for. An unemployment rep will tell you that when you sign up.
     
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  28. Harry Twatter

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    Normal unemployment, yes. The jacked up pandemic unemployment, no.

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/the-lazy-worker-test-has-arrived-174849986.html

    straight from the article:
    “The math suggests the disincentive to work could be legitimate. The average state unemployment payout is about $400 per week, or $1,700 per month. Add another $1,200 in monthly federal aid, and the two combined might equal nearly $3,000 in monthly income. That’s equivalent to roughly $19 per hour (for a 40-hour-per-week job). So somebody who could only find work paying less than that might be better off taking the benefits instead.”
     
  29. CaneKnight

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    [​IMG]


    Take your fucking whining about poor people not being forced to choose between starvation or work in a god pandemic to the Biden or Trump thread.
     
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  30. fucktx

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    Everything about Texas sucks ass

    Y’all are gonna get hit with that polar vortex again and lose power again because they didn’t fix anything

    couldn’t be me though I’ll be out
     
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  31. Henry Blake

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    "When Southside Chicago's homicide rate gets to zero, get back to me. When the poors stop being lazy and taking unemployment during a pandemic, get back to me."
    - chuds
     
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  32. Lyrtch

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    the fun part of this is the work discentive narrative evaporated because areas that stopped the unemployment early saw no statistically significant increase in job finding

    so bad narrative and not true, shocker
     
  33. Lyrtch

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    i find it hilarious when people who exclusively argue with right wing talking points get upset when people assume they're right wingers
     
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  34. Truman

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    States that took away extended UI benefits saw either a minimal uptick in hiring or none at all. This narrative about incentivizing people to stay home may make rhetorical sense, but it does not reflect reality.

    Also, as far as focusing on inner city shooting like Chicago, yes there are mass shootings. We all agree that is an issue. The solution to that issue is different from most of the mass shootings itt is vastly different. If you'd like to discuss solutions to the former, we do it quite a bit in the Biden and Trump threads. It really boils down to better economic opportunities through better school, social services, healthcare, reducing the school to jail pipelines ect. Based on your misplaced thoughts on unemployment insurance, you probably disagree w that solution.
     
  35. Harry Twatter

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    Appreciate the normal, mature response. DUCKMOUTH as well. It is possible to discuss issues without resorting to childish name calling.

    I don’t venture into the political threads for that reason, but thank you
     
  36. Redav

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    I posted a dog whistle and got called names. The nerve
     
  37. steamengine

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    :thumb:
     
  38. CaneKnight

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    I didn't bother to do any actual research and just posted propaganda, how dare you take issue with this
     
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  39. Truman

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    Youre welcome but do you care to discuss what I said ? If youre not willing to, that's fine, but it also indicates you just wanted to fling shit in this thread about lazy unemployed chicagoans that kill each other. I find your pearl clutching about being called names when doing that pretty weak tbh.
     
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  40. Harry Twatter

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    No. I didn’t see any discussion about a crazy deadly weekend in a large US city. Figured this was the thread to discuss it.

    I didn’t bring the unemployment stuff in here. That was another poster digging up stuff from another thread months ago.

    In hindsight, I’m not sure what I expected. It’s the usual unhinged culprits in most threads. I keep hearing about how much this board has matured, then the typical responses come piling in and prove otherwise.
     
  41. electronic

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    You didn’t address my post about Houston at all. It was a deadlier weekend there.
     
  42. Truman

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    Do you have any thoughts on how to address the mass shootings in Chicago?
     
  43. Tobias

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    i mean just at the simplest of levels you are seemingly unable to understand what a mass shooting is which makes your drop ins itt all the more transparent
     
  44. Harry Twatter

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    Definitely not less police.

    It sounds like it is mostly gang related activity. It probably couldn’t hurt to have more anti-gang units, more leadership from community leaders. More accountability as well, meaning harsher punishments and a stronger push to find the culprits. Sounds like people in the community often know the shooters but don’t want to snitch.
     
  45. fucktx

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  46. Harry Twatter

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    Hey, I guess it’s one step up from being called a racist. Congrats on the maturity!

    Much progress, very awesome
     
  47. BWC

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    Harsher punishments don’t deter violent crime. Try again.
     
  48. Harry Twatter

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    Oops, you’re right. Biden knows that from his crime bill.

    Thanks for picking out one of the options I suggested. And your input has been great
     
  49. Truman

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    1 - Yes it's gang related. All your solutions are treating the symptoms of gangs, not the disease. Do you find any utility in addressing why joining a gang is seen as the best or viable option for so many?

    2 - What does more leadership in communities look like? Also the biggest gang in Chicago is the CPD. Inflammatory statement, I know, but it's the truth. There's a reason communities dont talk to them. They have a history of setting up black sites to torture people of color. (DOD actually brought in CPD officers to help w interrogations in Iraq). Most studies show that more police on the beat, on foot, just being seen in the neighborhood reduces crime. They dont even have to make arrests. Just being seen. The issue is the CPD has a difficult time doing this without harassing the community, then come down w the Blue Flu any time they're criticized for it.
     
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  50. Hoss Bonaventure

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    I guess we can wait and see what happens in Houston as they’ve just thrown more guns at a huge uptick in violent gun crimes.