I spent five nights in downtown Atlanta and the only thing open nearby was Hooters I went all five nights Even the waitresses were starting to feel sorry for me
only thing within walking distance for 18 year olds. I'm sure there were other things. but right around the hotel it was dead as shit. this was also 10 years ago
I said only thing open nearby Although I will stand by my argument that downtown ATL is remarkably quiet for a big city. I've been back since and it always seems curious
You made a mistake and shouldn't have stayed downtown or at least asked someone and they could have pointed you to a bunch if places within a quick walk or Uber.
My Father, Boomer of course, shared this photo on Facebook. He has an undergraduate degree and I believe 3 or 4 master degrees. He raised me with the sole intention of going to college and paid for it all. What fucking reason do you have to post this? It literally goes against everything you've stood for. Mocking education? God damn it Boomers.
While it may not fit his usual beliefs, the sentiment in the meme is absolutely true. And in Tennessee, you can go to a trade school for free. Not everyone is meant for a four year school and there needs to be more of a push to learn a trade.
4 year degrees were never meant to make money. They expand your mind and teach you how to live like a sophisticated gentleman. Only plebes and poors don't understand this
Right but it's his generation and belief holders that have created the college for profit dilemma, and are requiring people to have a degree to run a fucking Burger King.
Agree. But a lot of Gen Xers are still pushing kids to go to college that shouldn't be going to a four year school. Creates a hell of a situation and the skilled labor gap we are currently in and will be in for a while.
That is a disconnect between belief an practice. It's nice to say "college isn't for everyone and too many jobs say they require a college degree when they really don't." It's another to actually say "my kid doesn't need to go to college."
Possibly. I don't have kids so I couldn't tell you. But I work in education and even the most dense parents know when their kids shouldn't be going the university route.
I've yet to meet a millenial that's railed on someone for going to a technical or vocational school or tried to make them feel bad about it. I'm pretty sure it's Gen X'ers self-inserting and projecting.
I didn't mean that part was true. You are correct on that. Especially in Tennessee where community and technical colleges are free.
Man, fucking preach. Part of why so many millenials made the college move against their own best interests was to please mommy n' daddy, a couple of nouveau riche themselves after their parents had comparatively rather little. Meanwhile millenials are generally more supportive of each other and less sensitive to classism.
There is a benefit to advanced education for all people as college shouldn't be job training but corporations did great PR to convince people otherwise to offload job training to colleges. An educated workforce is a huge reason America raced forward during and after the industrial revolution, the bar is just being raised. Not even touching on that it's basically a class argument from jump that no rich person is going to send their kid to be a welder but will sit on their high horse that the poors should go that route.
on top of the other stuff said about college, it's just good to have people in the citizenry that know something about art or literature or history or politics. it seems like there's a big overlap between the people that make fun of film degrees and the people that complain about the low quality of mainstream art.
My MIL, who practices veterinary medicine, constantly shit talks higher education and colleges. I don't understand.
What's not to understand? Older people have been inundated with "higher education is actually bad" for decades now. It's part of how they view things, regardless of the motivation or backing for the education. Recent polling shows quite convincingly that it's a widespread sentiment
Ok I do understand the propaganda of it. I don't understand how a person who holds a medical license, and whose daughter ~8 months from an MD, steadfastly holds that opinion. Being a brainwashed boomer really is something.
Actually America benefited from needing a lot of rebuilding post civil war(hence why it's called reconstruction) as it entered its industrial revolution around the late 19th century, and people contributing to the advancements generally weren't necessarily college educated back then. I.e. Thomas Edison.
I wasn't specifically talking about college education when referencing historical educational advantages America has had.
Agree that postsecondary education is important for everyone. Luckily Tennessee has virtually erased all barriers to some sort of certificate or degree. Not touching the class argument other than to say that the lack of people helping to promote careers and education in the trades are a big reason why we will continue to experience a skilled labor gap in this country. And if more people saw the light, for lack of a better term, and pushed this career path for those that would otherwise be working at McDonalds for the rest of their lives, many people could see their financial situations change for the better. I do agree that most very wealthy people won't be pushing technical education or a career path in the trades.
I think college just for knowledge sake is great, but under the current system it just isn't for everyone. People from families with means or that have a support system can do that, but people that have to support themselves and others immediately at 22 need something that pays right out of the gate. Where it gets ugly is when somebody in the latter camp takes out tons of loans but majors in something without a ton of job prospects, or even worse, goes to a for-profit school and ends up not finishing. That's a life-changing debt trap, made worse by the fact that they forfeit years of earnings to take on that debt that won't have any long term payback.
That basically makes my dad mocking a kids parents that can't pay for their kids college.....which is also fucked up. One can suggest trade schools, appropriately, while not bashing others
i swear to god if this thread turns into a bunch of college-educated douches espousing the wonders of trade schools