I think you have to be legitimately insane to yell at a stranger, save for them committing violence or something.
i You said you felt sorry for her. That she is also a victim. Fuck her and fuck felling sorry for a pos racist.
You're talking to someone that spends his entire life trying too hard on the internet. He's not going to ever be reasonable enough to understand your point.
It's a shame you don't understand how poor whites are victims of the system as well. This is the opposite of how rich whites used racism to make poor whites feel better about themselves during slavery and the jim crow era. Now you're getting off on punishing poor whites while rich whites continue to get away with the system that disproportionately benefits them. And now i'm being a hypocrite for laughing at you because you're just the result of poverty stunting your intellect.
Is that the one next to the park or across from the HEB? Pretty sure it’s next to the park, both are really nice regardless. We’re surrounded by duplexes on castle Court. ;) where did you move?
That's fine but don't misrepresent what I said. Your position is valid and understandable. No reason to make shit up about what I was saying
I don’t see how I misrepresented what you said. But, my bad if I did. I stand by my position fuck her and fuck giving her any pity. That’s my personal opinion and it’s because I know someone who a similar experience. That wasn’t trump related though before his time in office. I don’t think being poor gives you an excuse for ignorance and racism.
This is where I'd contend you misrepresented me. I never excused her behavior and even specifically said that she got what she deserved. It's just possible for her to be a racist POS while simultaneously being a victim of the unjust nature of our capitalist society. I think that means she's worthy of some level of pity for that, you disagree. All of that is fine.
I misinterpreted what you meant. My bad. Yes poor people are “victims” of capitalism but most imo don’t become racist assholes. IMO one doesn’t beget the other.
I believe I would stop to chat with those fucks from westboro Yup. Next to the park. Moved on to a beautiful place called Midland. At least it's closer to the mountains.
I wonder if this is what it was like in the early stages of the neo-cons taking over the Republican party. You're afraid to call out his stupidity. Her racism and ignorance is absolutely the result of her lack of education and opportunity. The same way most poor people don't resort to selling drugs or joining gangs, but those who do generally do so because of their lack of education and opportunity. You don't get to just say, "well the majority of people don't sell drugs, so we shouldn't feel bad about long prison sentences." But here we are allowing Daniel Ocean to spread that type of ignorance
I don't really want to defend the police or school, but it is pretty standard to call the police if a child starts being violent and throwing things. My extremely liberal mother, who was a principal, has called the police on some kids going bat shit in class. Pretty sure they were white and also arrested
Maybe having racist old cops at schools is a bad idea. Officer Dennis Turner is now facing a department investigation because he did not receive approval from a Watch Commander, which is department policy for arresting minors under age 12, Sgt. David Baker said in an email. Turner is a member of the department’s Reserve Unit, which is made up of retired OPD officers.
It never even occured to me that someone under like 10 could even be arrested unless they killed someone or something
Some of these kids come from so much fucked up at shit at home they are unmanageable at times. The hurt and anger is real. still shouldn’t have to go this far. Maybe more psychological professionals that deal in emotional trauma at schools would be better. A shame we can’t fund stuff like that. We’ll build some more billion dollar jets and battleships though.
Florida judge sentences 21-year-old black man to jail time for missing jury duty Judge John Kastrenakes didn't see Deandre Somerville, caretaker for his grandfather; he saw "the only African American on the jury." Spoiler In August, 21-year-old Florida resident Deandre Somerville was sworn onto a jury. Somerville lives with his grandparents, works in after-school programs, and takes care of his grandfather, who needs to be shuttled to physical therapy sessions. Somerville overslept the first day of the civil case he was to serve on the jury for. Not a good look for anyone. The young man then did what a lot of people do in similar circumstances: He put his head down, went to work, and pretended nothing had ever happened, hoping things might work out for him. A few days later he received a subpoena to appear before Judge John Kastrenakes. When he explained to his grandparents what had happened, they advised him to go to court and tell the truth of the situation. Somerville did this, explaining to the judge that he had overslept and had not realized the seriousness of his infraction. Kastrenakes decided that that would be the day to make an example out of someone. For missing jury duty, Somerville received 10 days in jail, one year of probation,150 hours of community service, and a $223 fine. And while this shouldn’t matter, Somerville had a sparkling clean record, no problems with the law. He served those days, saying he prayed and mostly worried about his grandfather being able to get around, now that he wasn’t there to help. Deandre Somerville is a lot nicer about all of this than many of us would be, clearly contrite in all of his interviews with news outlets that took up the story. Most of the stories have taken a Can you believe that? Jury duty is important, and guess what, kids, you can get in trouble for skipping out on it tone. Many people skip out on jury duty, and very few, if any, receive any punishment, let alone actual jail time. The story got picked up and passed around, and Somerville’s public defender came to court to see if Judge Kastrenakes would vacate Somerville’s contempt conviction, which might otherwise remain as a stain on his record. On Friday, Kastrenakes listened as assistant public defender Daniel Eisinger argued for vacating the original ruling, saying that Somerville is an “honorable young man, and I don’t use that word lightly at all.” Somerville read a very contrite apology letter to the court. Kastrenakes made a statement in court to explain his wildly punitive decision, saying, “He was the only African American on the jury, representing a cross section of the community, and he decided on his own that it wasn’t worth his time to come back.” That’s not a reason for anything. Kastrenakes by all accounts has never handed out a 10-day sentence like the one he gave to “the only African American on the jury,” and it makes you wonder whether, if news cameras had not shown up, he might have left Somerville with this egregiously unfair conviction on his record. The judge reduced the community service hours Somerville needed to serve to 30, and ordered that he speak with prospective jurors, after which he will vacate the original contempt conviction. These are all things that could have been done originally, all things that would have driven home how important jury duty is to the young man. Instead, Kastrenakes penalized Somerville with jail time, and only because his actions and abuse of power were publicized did he change his biased actions.
Getting children the help they need is often more difficult than it needs to be. It's also often a push and pull, therapist and counselors and teachers can do so much while the kid is at school, but if he has bad influences at home and outside of school, it's a struggle. The kids inevitably have to return to the environment that created their issues. Also, unless it's an extreme situation, parents or guardians need to OK the therapy or counseling. If the parents are the source of the issues, they may not want that kind of help.
The punishment was certainly overkill, but the article is kind of misleading. A lot of people skip out on jury duty, but very few don't show up once they're on a jury. And there's a big difference between the two. If they don't show up once they've been selected, it could likely result in a mistrial. A mistrial would cost everyone involved tens of thousands of dollars. Every judge on the planet instructs the jury after it's been seated about what will happen if they don't show back up. Regardless, the judge certainly should have handled this better, and his punishment was egregious and inexcusable. It just kind of rubs me the wrong way that the article makes such an effort to downplay the effect of the kid's absence.
yup. guy fucked up big time. Punishment was absolutely overkill, but oversleeping a trial is a big deal. Also, acting like nothing happened after the fact is a really bad look. Didn't call, didn't show up late, nothing. That's a stunt you pull as kid, not a 21-year-old adult.
This reads like you understand the guy shouldn’t have been put in jail but then attempt to justify him being put in jail.
I don't have a problem with the guy being put in jail. It being overnight, for multiple days, and all the other shit is a problem. Putting an actual juror who doesn't show back up to an ongoing trial in jail isn't at all uncommon. In federal court, they'll send a U.S. Marshal after your ass every time.
Contempt, which more often than not includes a bench warrant and being at least booked into jail. It doesn't happen all that often, though, because judges make it abundantly clear that by not showing up, you'll end up in jail. And, the clerk or judicial assistant gives you all of their information to call in if you're sick or late or have a conflict. For it to get this far, you pretty much have to just decide to ghost the court knowing full and well the consequences.
Dude probably just have showed up late. Might got a fine and swift tongue from the judge and that’s about jt
No. I’m agreeing with wes tegg that the article is extremely misleading by making it seem like all he did was skip typical jury duty when he actually skipped showing up for trial. It’s a pretty big deal. It can be a big deal without needing to go to jail for multiple days.
Obviously, I don't know the judge and haven't tried anything in a Florida state court, but I'd be surprised if a judge even fined somebody for showing up late. They'd get on to them and then just proceed on.