MoviePass: Another Theatrical Run

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  1. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Holy fuck, game night is sitting at 85% with around 100 reviews as well. Good weekend for the moviepass crew. :respek:
     
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  2. Tobias

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    game night isnt showing on the app for me or my buddy

    why
     
  3. Born Again Lefty

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    Don’t even really care about how close it is to historically accurate — Jackman killed it
     
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  4. Mix

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    They pulled it from theaters because McAdams got knocked up
     
  5. Tobias

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    i just spoke with her about this and she said this is fake news
     
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  6. Nostradumass

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    Sometimes you have to manually search for the movie. The app updated for me a week or so ago and since then the new layout is a bit buggy. I've had to remind it which theater is mine more than a few times.
     
  7. C A N E

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    Going to see game night
     
  8. laxjoe

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    Just got out of annihilation. Quality flick. And if our little theater in nowhere, usa (TM politico) is any indication, this is going to be a good weekend at the movies. Every showing for black panther, game night and annihilation after 4 pm was sold out
     
  9. Emmy Rossum

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    I'm pretty liberal with my 8 year old when it comes to movies. Do you think Annihilation would be too much?
     
  10. Charles DeMar

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    I probably wouldn’t take him if I were you. I saw it yesterday and there were a few parts that I’d consider to be a bit much for him. It’s not like there were a lot of parts that would concern me or tension throughout necessarily, but still don’t think my 5 year old son would want to see it in a few years
     
  11. laxjoe

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    Man, this is right on the border. I'd probably lean no, but that's just me.
     
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  12. Charles DeMar

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    Yeah, this seems like a solid take. I wouldn’t think negatively of a friend taking their 8 year old to see it, but would lean no if asked
     
  13. Nostradumass

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    Ooh I don't know. Not knowing your child's personality I can't say for sure, but generally speaking I don't think so.

    It gets pretty intense in a couple places.

    There's one scene that I won't spoil but it's pure nightmare fuel.
     
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  14. chuckmasterflex

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    I'd give it a hard no.

    There is one scene that has a creature that is way too terrifying and is prime nightmare fuel for a little kid. Also, no way an 8 year old would understand most of the movie. So there is no upside.

    Paddington 2 is absolutely delightful though.
     
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  15. Mr Bulldops

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    Got my MoviePass in the mail yesterday, used it today to go see annihilation. Pretty good although the ending got a little art house for my tastes. Would have liked some more explanation and some less so you think you can dance. Especially since I had read the books a few years ago but I still had to go to wikipedia as soon as it was over to remember what happened at the end, and no, it did help, like at all. Movie pretty much just took the general idea of the books and went with it

    MoviePass however is pretty badass and I am looking forward to using it a lot
     
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  16. Druce

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    Is black panther ok for an 8 y/o?
     
  17. chuckmasterflex

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    There is no blood. Standard super hero fights.

    Maybe more questions about why the "bad guy" was mad.
     
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  18. al1

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    Yes. I doubt a majority of adults understand the movie so no to the 8 yo imo.
     
  19. George Costanza

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    Info that I got from an old co-worker yesterday.

    We used to work together doing financial consulting and he was just on a project for Landmark Theatres (Cuban’s company) and was asking some of their execs about the industry and Netflix and such. MoviePass comes up and they said they are basically committing extortion and are being taken to court right now (see AMC suit).

    The “card” customers get is essentially a company credit card. When they watch a movie the card is being charged full box office price. So MoviePass is taking a hit every time a movie is purchased assuming box office price is $12-14. So I asked how the hell they are surviving that hit. Well apparently they have a bunch of private equity dumping money into the company to cover these losses for now. The thought from the PE groups is that eventually MoviePass will get a big enough customer based pulled from normal theatre goers to be able to go to the theatres and say we want 50% of your concessions to be able to cover their model. And if the theatres don’t play ball then MoviePass will just say they won’t offer any of the movies to their customers that the particular theatre is carrying. More or less trying to extort money out of the theatres seems to be the actual long term plan of this company.

    I don’t see that ending well and I’m very curious how long private equity is willing to go to fund losses
     
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  20. GrizzliesDrew

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    Yes.
     
  21. Anison

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    MoviePass will be fine as long as they keep adding subscribers. Netflix was founded in 1998, lived off private equity money until its IPO in 2002, and has turned a profit in only three quarters in its history (Qs 1, 3 & 4 of 2017). The key for Netflix was finding a way to control content in the wake of studios threatening to pull their films from the platform.

    MoviePass will likely need to deal directly with the studios or make its own stake in MoviePass-branded theaters. The key data point is that 90%+ of frequent weekend MoviePass users went and saw a movie somewhere else when those AMC theatres went off the platform. They are already proving out that the theatres will need MoviePass as they keep driving up the subscriptions numbers.
     
  22. dump

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    Sounds like butthurt to me
     
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  23. Doug

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    I mean MoviePass will never be profitable from just a normal customer base going to see movies. They have to sell our info, target ads to us, and eventually lean on theaters to cut them a deal... if they’re successful and I can go see movies anytime I want - great. If it doesn’t work and they have to up their price too much or if they get black balled then I’ll go back to seeing a couple movies a year.
     
  24. 941Gator

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    besides a movie-pass theatre, what is their best option to turn a profit?
     
  25. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    Me feeling exactly
     
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  26. Nelson

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    Not trying to be a dick but that whole model was obvious from the start. Most every “disruptive” tech startup is a VC burner by design until it gains market power and can leverage size.
     
  27. Shawn Hunter

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    Yep that's not a sustainable business model. Even though I haven't signed up yet due to lack of time to see movies most of the year, I'll be more than happy to be proven wrong.
     
  28. Anison

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    They already are getting a cut of concessions from smaller movie theatre chains - outside the top three. They also started MovePass Ventures which invests in films alongside independent distributors; they believe pushing their films on the app will boost box office for those films in which they are invested. For example, MoviePass users represent about 3% of the domestic box office on a typical weekend - that grows to nearly 10% when MoviePass heavily pushes a certain movie. Plus obviously they get downstream income from those films they invest in.

    I suspect they are going to keep squeezing AMC and Regal until they are forced to make a deal. For example, they could make it so certain films can only be purchased with MoviePass at independent theatres/chains.
     
  29. Nelson

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    Yeah and neither was Uber
     
  30. Shawn Hunter

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    Sounds like an opportunity for the studios to pay MoviePass to push the studio's movies as well then.
     
  31. Anison

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    Yep. Especially independent studios.
     
  32. Mix

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    Moviepass has already started buying films and will I'm sure push tickets to movies they own very hard.
     
  33. Nostradumass

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    they can push whatever they want and have all the info on what kind of movies I watch, etc.

    10 bucks a month pays for itself after like the first week for me. I see probably $50 a month worth of movies easily, more during the summer months.
     
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  34. Don't Hate Me Bro!

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    This was a rather small and select sample size. I don’t think this tactic will work wholesale, maybe it doesn’t need to? But there are theaters I simply won’t go to (bad areas, run down theater). If they did this where I live and took away the “good” theaters I’d just cancel and go back to not going to the movies very often. I think what the theaters need to realize is these cheaper prices reincentivized people to go out again. What’s stopping these theater chains from starting their own $10/mo movie clubs - banking on increased concessions, dead gym membership money, etc.?
     
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  35. two

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    Live close enough to a theater where I can check in and buy tickets online pretty easily.

    Problem is the theater is tiny and sells out like crazy. Get there 20 mins before the ticket time and there are still no seats available. :crossedarms:
     
  36. pianoman

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    Saw Anihilation last night and Game Night tonight. Both were very good, enjoyed Anihilation more than I expected going in.
     
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  37. Wu

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    Down to $7.95 month on the website and with summer movie season about to kick into high gear I’m considering getting it

    This will be nice especially someone like me who goes to a lot of movies but hates paying evening rate
     
  38. Nelson

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    I would love to subscribe but the whole GPS activation thing makes it completely impossible for me (NYC). I pretty much only see shows at Alamo, and they sell out very fast. I live about 1.5 miles from the theater and going out of the way just for that purpose isn’t worth it.
     
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  39. Mix

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    I spoof my GPS sometimes, its easy.
     
  40. allothersnsused

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    I have the same problem in DC. I try to go see movies a month or so after they've been out and not at peak times, or I go around a time where there are 2+ I would want to see. Not perfect but probably worth it considering I pay the price of 2/3 of a ticket for a months' worth of movies.
     
  41. i am a bammer

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    Ordered my card Saturday. Even if i see 1 movie/month at the Angelika near me, it's worth it. How does it handle places with reserved seats?
     
  42. $P1

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    You check in on the app. Go in the theatre and when you buy the tickets, the cashier will assign your seat
     
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  43. Nelson

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    CRIMINAL SCUM
     
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  44. Shawn Hunter

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    Can you use MoviePass at one of the self-serve kiosks?
     
  45. Shawn Hunter

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    Also, when should I sign up if I want to have my card by May?
     
  46. i am a bammer

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    I'd like to know this as well.
     
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  48. Shawn Hunter

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    What happens if you check in on the app but end up not getting your ticket in 30 minutes? Last time I went to the theater the line was obscenely long with only one person selling tickets and the kiosk lines were every bit as long.
     
  49. It'sAlwaysSunnyInAthens

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    For black Panther, I had dinner near the theater, checked in for some random movie then bought a ticket for the next days showing of black Panther.
     
  50. Charles DeMar

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    Yes. This is actually how I prefer to use it in fact. The lines are usually shorter and don’t get any smug looks from the box office folks.
     
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