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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by hood b. goode, Jun 17, 2022.
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A lot of these "best players in the NBA" are either in their mid-30s or not playing for the US in the Olympics.
3? of the best 5 players in the NBA aren't US players. Half? of the top-10 are too old to add the rigors of Olympic preparation to their summers.
US has a severe "big man" problem for the Olympics, especially if Embiid decides to play for France.
For all the talent the US still has, it's kind of wild when you look at the possible guys who could play the 4 and/or 5 at a tournament like this. Once you take out LeBron and Durant because they've been there/done that and are too old to want to do it, the American-born options kind of suck. I'm guessing that's part of the reason they wanted Banchero to go for reasons that will hopefully pay off down the road. It's a massive weakness that LeBron and Durant being cheat codes have masked from 2008-21.
I can't remember where I saw it but some NBA guys were discussing the theory that American bigs are a dying breed, the traditional style of bigs don't get drafted anymore (the Hunter Dickinsons and Zack Edeys of the world). I'm not sure I'm 100% sold on this but it does kinda make sense when trying to think of the best non LBJ/KD big options for these World tourney teams. Anthony Davis and Bam are the top 2 I can think of...Team USA grooming Banchero makes total sense now that you bring it up
And Davis really isn't an option due to injury concerns. And Bam played in 21 and might not want to do it again after these deep playoff runs. We're pretty screwed if Bam says no.
Mobley hopefully gets involved, but he's not a particularly good rebounder either, and he's going to have to pick up the offense for American coaches to put him on the floor for significant minutes. It's an interesting situation. FIBA having no illegal defense rule allows bigs like Edey (who played for Canada in this tourney) to stay on the floor in ways they can't in the league. And for teams to go super big when that's not really an option in American basketball any more.
And I love Bam but we've seen him against the likes of Giannis, Joker, and Embiid. Regardless of his inclusion, we need more.
It is pretty grim. Just sorting by rebound leaders, top American rebounding bigs last year (that qualified to be ranked on the leaderboard) were…
Wendell Carter Jr
Robert Williams III
I doubt you ever see AD doing national team stuff again. I would just roll with Jarrett Allen, Bam, and Mobley if they wanted to do three bigs. All three good to elite defenders who will rebound and aren’t the type that are going to need a lot of touches on offense to stay happy and engaged.
Many people are saying the biggest drop off for Team USA since 2016 has been coaching
Can’t remember who said it but I heard someone throw out the idea of KSA buying the lakers since the buss family is basically the last ownership group in the nba whose wealth is disproportionately tied up in the team.
Mason Plumlee would have changed the outcome of this tournament
Save us Chet Holmgren
We need more, but off all the bigs in the system, he's the only one who really comes close to combining the defense and rebounding that is required to play the way the team wants to (and kind of needs to) play. JJJ is a terrific NBA defender, but he's not the rebounder you need in international play for a 5. We just don't really have that many options.
I'd say the answer is more grimy SF/undersized PF types that'll rebound through sheer effort, but we had Bobby Portis already
Theory floating around is lebron wants to team up with the saudis in future for an ownership group
If you have Bam and JJJ you can let Jackson be the roaming FS / perimeter menace and shot blocker you never saw coming and let Bam go bang with the big guys with lots of Js, Cs and vowels in their last name
Sounds great. People keep acting like JJJ is a center. He is not. He is a tremendous help defender/shot blocker on both the perimeter and low post, but he gets bodied and fouls too much when having to directly defend bigs down low. Also, he is and always has been unfortunately a horrendous rebounder.
by people you must mean Steve Kerr
Don't expect him to help much on the boards either. Duren is who we need
AD is the perfect Team USA center but there’s not a chance in hell he’d play.
I can see a scenario where if the Lakers had a bad year even though he's healthy they he'd want to go out and lead a Dream Team, but neither of those things are going to happen
Austin Reaves won't allow it
You were supposed to ask me why the Lakers couldn't have a bad season, fuckface.
Hey look I'm sorry. Sorry all your punchlines are obvious.
I swear to God he's trolling us
Would you look at that.
From what i’ve seen you supported human slavery in Qatar, love posting in the Ukraine war porn thread, and enjoy watching Dillon Brooks play basketball. I hope your sadism only goes that far and the US putting together a C squad aside from Austin Reaves appeases your bloodlust
I’m sorry steve Kerr did a what
He had Josh Hart at center in the 4th, then Hart fouled out, and he brought in Brunson to replace him
and Dillon Brooks went for 40. Deport Steve Kerr.
I feel for you homie.
Dennis should go play in Spain. Built for the Euro game
Does Asia play FIBA rules? Maybe we sign Dwight up for the Olympics.
If we send all our aged superstars to Paris, I am prepared for a rash of player injuries in the 24-25 season the likes of which we have never seen.
It will probably be LeBron’s retirement send off
I would guess it depends on Bronny's long term prognosis.