NBA Thread: CP3 - Over 2,000 Career Steals

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  1. Bay Bandit

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    Curious what the Mavs decide to do with Brunson. Did not know they were that close to the cap. Letting him leave for free would be a big waste, but going over the cap with him (by that large a margin) and locking yourself in to the current version of the Mavs seems risky. Sign-n-trade may be the best option but not sure what is available (or how the cap impacts that).
     
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  2. brolift

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    yes
     
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  3. fucktx

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    How many fights does jokic get into next year
     
  4. Clown

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    Good for him to have stablity (until they trade him), he has played for 11 teams already (12 couting SEA/OKC)
     
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    he’s closing in on 100 million career earnings so not bad Jeff Green
     
  6. brolift

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    567
     
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    Jeff Green was a pretty important signing for Denver with the MPJ injury. Signed him as a versatile backup but he ended up being a pretty solid starter all year.
     
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  8. Nandor the Relentless

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    WEll unless it's a trade heavy offseason, it's going to be a boring offseason

    But how the hell are Simons and Sexton barely in the top 25?
     
  9. MG2

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    I'm assuming his "BORD$" metric values on/off stuff significantly and thus values defense a lot. On some level I get it, but on others I think it's kind of ridiculous to put that much weight in a metric we've seen can be team dependent in terms of how those types of players are used and who you surround them with.

    I'm not a huge Hollinger fan. I like reading stuff from guys like him and Pelton because it's a different perspective from what you normally get from TV guys, but they also tend to post stuff based on their metrics that even they don't seem to even believe (like he talks about in a bunch of these write-ups). And Hollinger, especially, comes across as pretty stubborn and can be an asshole when teams do things that disagree with his analysis.
     
  10. bwi2

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    Are teams really sniffing around on Beal? Because I’d love to shed that anchor.
     
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  11. LuPoor

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    Kyrie for Russ straight up let's go
     
  12. Celemo

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    I'm running under the assumption there are teams interested but most assume he'll just grab that bag and stay in DC
     
  13. Xander Crews

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    A Russ/KD reunion would be :chefs kiss:
     
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  14. Aussie

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    I can't imagine KD wants anything to do with playing with Russ again.
     
  15. ZeroPointZero

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    Kyrie to LA, Russ and picks to OKC, Nets get picks and a trade exception. Send it in.
     
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  16. MG2

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    He basically has a no trade clause right now, so I don't really see the market there. They can't trade him unless he agrees to opt in or does a sign-and-trade with someone after opting out. And it sounds like he prefers the Washington max over anything else. I don't blame him.
     
  17. Charles DeMar

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    In case anyone wants to read this

    With the NBA Draft three days away and free agency around the corner, trade conversations, signings and pursuits for all 30 teams have begun in earnest. Across the league, major free agents — and potential free agents — are being monitored: Chicago’s Zach LaVine, Washington’s Bradley Beal, Philadelphia’s James Harden, Phoenix’s Deandre Ayton, Charlotte’s Miles Bridges, DallasJalen Brunson, Portland’s Anfernee Simons and more.

    But one of the most anticipated free-agency situations involves Brooklyn’s Kyrie Irving, who has a June 29 deadline on his $36.9 million player option for the 2022-23 season. However, multiple sources tell The Athletic that conversations about Irving’s future have gone stagnant between him and the Nets. An impasse currently exists among the parties that clears the way for the seven-time All-Star to consider the open marketplace, those sources said.

    Irving joined the Nets along with Kevin Durant in the summer of 2019, though Durant missed their first season together as he recovered from a torn Achilles tendon. Irving made the All-Star team in 2020-21 and helped lead the franchise to the Eastern Conference semifinals alongside Durant and James Harden prior to an ankle injury in a series against the Bucks. After the past season, in which he played just 29 games and missed most of the season’s home games because of his decision not to comply with New York City’s vaccine mandate, Irving made clear that he intended to return to the Nets in the summer and continue to build with Durant and newcomer Ben Simmons. He has averaged 27.2 points, 6.1 assists and 3.9 rebounds per game and made 40.4 percent of his 3-point attempts in three seasons with Brooklyn, but he has appeared in 103 of 216 regular-season games.

    “I don’t really plan on going anywhere,” Irving said on April 25 after the Nets’ season-ending sweep to the Celtics in the first round of the East playoffs.

    Nearly two months later, it appears both sides have serious work to do in order to find a resolution that brings Irving back to Brooklyn and his co-star in Durant, who is under contract with the Nets through 2025-26. Several teams across the league have kept tabs on the situation, wondering about the future of Irving and Brooklyn.

    The Lakers, Knicks and Clippers are expected to be among the interested suitors if Irving heads elsewhere, multiple sources tell The Athletic.

    For the Lakers, the likely path to acquire Irving — and reunite him with LeBron James — would be Irving opting in to facilitate a trade, because the Lakers cannot realistically clear cap space to sign him themselves, and a sign-and-trade would trigger the hard cap, thus making acquiring Irving significantly more difficult. If Irving would opt in, Lakers general manager Rob Pelinka would have to satisfy the collective bargaining agreement’s salary-matching rules, meaning if Irving’s $36.6 million was the only incoming salary, the Lakers could send anywhere from $29.3 million to $45.8 million to the Nets and/or a third team in a legal transaction.

    For the Knicks, the likely path to acquire Irving depends on what the Nets prioritize. New York is even with the salary-cap line for 2022-23 so it could clear enough space to sign Irving on a maximum contract by offloading salaries such as Evan Fournier, Alec Burks, Nerlens Noel and Kemba Walker. But the Knicks could also offer some or all of those players to the Nets or a third team in a possible sign-and-trade.

    For the Clippers, the likely path to get Irving requires him to opt in, because they are significantly over both the luxury-tax line and the hard cap for 2022-23. To satisfy salary matching, the Clippers would need to send out between $29.3 million and $45.8 million to the Nets and/or a third team if Irving is the only salary headed their way. The Clippers’ scenario is less complicated than the Lakers, as the Clippers have a series of players making $11 million to $17 million to work with. For example, two or three of Norman Powell, Marcus Morris, Luke Kennard and Reggie Jackson going out satisfies the CBA’s trade rules, and they also have a collection of young players like Terance Mann or Brandon Boston who could help sweeten the deal.

    A potential Irving departure would be incredibly damaging to the Nets because of their limited ability to replace him and his salary slot should Irving sign elsewhere as a free agent. A likelier path to any departure would be via sign-and-trade. Brooklyn owes $111 million to six players in 2022-23, not including Irving, so even filling out the roster with minimum salaries would put the Nets over next season’s projected salary cap of $122 million. If Irving bolts, Brooklyn’s strongest path to adding talent would be the full $10.3 million midlevel exception. Irving is also eligible for a new deal via exercising his player option and extending his contract from there, which could land him a starting salary of $45.2 million for 2023-24.

    “We’re looking for guys that want to be a part of something bigger than themselves, play team basketball and be available,” Net GM Sean Marks said in May. “That goes not only for Kyrie but everybody here.”

    For the Nets, the fate of Irving’s free agency is one to keep an eye on as the NBA Draft and free agency near.

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    Atlanta Hawks

    Hawks free-agent guard Lou Williams intends to continue his playing career, his agent Wallace Prather says. “(Williams) is not pursuing retirement, and I’ll be proactive in talking to teams during free agency,” Prather said. Williams, a 17-year veteran, averaged 6.3 points and 14.3 minutes a game over 56 contests this past season.

    Charlotte Hornets

    Rival executives expect Hornets restricted free agent Miles Bridges to command a maximum — or near-max — deal in July, and sources said there’s hesitancy from Charlotte to match a max sheet. Bridges had a breakout season in 2021-22, averaging 20.2 points, seven rebounds and 3.8 assists per game. In a league that saw wings such as Golden State’s Andrew Wiggins and Boston’s Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown have game-changing impacts on a run to the NBA Finals, Bridges’ two-way ability on the wing has become incredibly valued toward winning.

    Cleveland Cavaliers

    Cavaliers restricted free agent Collin Sexton has been cleared for full basketball activities, sources said. Sexton underwent surgery in November to repair a torn meniscus and has made a complete recovery on the eve of entering free agency. Rival execs believe Sexton’s market could reach the $20 million-per-year range.

    Indiana Pacers

    The Pacers are seriously discussing trades centered on Malcolm Brogdon and Myles Turner, sources said. The Wizards and Knicks are interested in Brogdon, armed with the Nos. 10 and 11 picks respectively, sources said. The Hornets have expressed interest in Turner, those sources said. Still, Indiana, which has the No. 6 pick in the draft, could elect to continue retooling its veteran core rather than rebuild entirely around young players.

    Minnesota Timberwolves

    The Timberwolves have discussed deals around veteran centers, including Atlanta’s Clint Capela, sources said.

    Sacramento Kings

    The Kings are becoming increasingly comfortable drafting at No. 4 in Thursday’s draft and have described a steep price for teams behind them in the lottery who are attempting to trade up, sources said. Sacramento general manager Monte McNair has engaged in conversations around Hawks forward John Collins — among a slew of other established, productive players in the market — but there has been no involvement of the No. 4 pick in the discussions centered on Collins, and McNair will ultimately make the decision on the pick, according to sources.

    Utah Jazz

    Sources said the Jazz are scheduling second interview times with almost all of their 15 head coaching candidates as the next step in the process.

    The 15 head coaching candidates are: Knicks assistant Johnnie Bryant; current assistant Alex Jensen; current assistant Lamar Skeeter; Raptors assistant Adrian Griffin; Celtics assistant Will Hardy; Bucks assistant Charles Lee; Heat assistant Chris Quinn; Mavericks assistant Sean Sweeney; Celtics assistant Joe Mazzulla; Pistons assistant Jerome Allen; 76ers assistant Sam Cassell; Suns assistant Kevin Young; G League head coach Jason Terry; former Lakers coach Frank Vogel; and ex-Trail Blazers coach Terry Stotts.

    Draft notes
    • Auburn’s Jabari Smith, who worked out and met with the Magic (No. 1) and Thunder (No. 2) during the predraft process, is a virtual lock to go in the top two in the draft. He remains a favorite to go No. 1.

    • Kentucky’s Shaedon Sharpe is the mystery man of the NBA Draft. Sharpe is a projected high lottery pick, and sources say he has conducted strong group workouts such as three-on-three and four-on-four scrimmages to showcase his ability for teams who have not seen him play organized basketball over the past year or two. Instead of conducting individual workouts, Sharpe sought the competition, working out for teams between the draft ranges of Nos. 1-13.

    • The G League Ignite’s Michael Foster will end up working out for 15 teams, with his 6-foot-9 build and expected versatility at the next level making him a candidate to be a draft sleeper. In 13 games for the Ignite last season, Foster averaged 14.8 points and a team-high 8.7 rebounds per game.
     
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  18. MtOread

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    Very random, but I thought about the US-Spain gold medal games in 2008 and 2012 last night shortly before falling asleep. Have had them on in the background this morning while working from home.



     
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  20. BudKilmer

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    Why would Charlotte not match on a Bridges offer sheet? That seems foolish
     
  21. LuPoor

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    Because he's gonna get popped for taking pics of himself drinking lean
     
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  22. Butthead

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    blazer homer alert

    rudy fernandez is one of the more bizarre players i've watched play for them. he was never going to be an all-star but he was still pretty good. i'm not sure what happened but his confidence just completely died at some point and then he basically never played. moved around to a couple teams and ended up back in spain.

    he scored 22 on 13 shots in this game
     
  23. Celemo

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    Kevin Pritchard absolutely over-valued the shit out of Rudy and rejected some pretty solid trade offers (mostly draft picks) for him :shocker:

    Rudy always reminded me of the dude who played the Night Fox in Ocean's 12
     
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  24. Nandor the Relentless

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    Lakers trying to be the new Nets, three stars that can't stay on the court?
     
  25. Nandor the Relentless

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    Imagine how shitty an offense will be taht has Russ and Simmons on the court for 30+ minutes a night
     
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  26. Celemo

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    probably as bad as an offense being run by Marcus Smart
     
  27. Nandor the Relentless

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    Boston ranked #5 in offensive efficiency this season
     
  28. BudKilmer

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    Who got a mark stein substack c/p for Ryan Mallett
     
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  29. zachary

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    is it basically all but confirmed that..

    jabari 1
    chet 2 ?

    i am really hoping the rockets can get paolo
     
  30. CF3234

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    this meme will never get old
     
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  31. LuPoor

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    No one actually knows shit, especially with OKC
     
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  32. Fusiontegra

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  33. Fusiontegra

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    *including OKC

    Damn, good luck recovering from that one.
     
  34. The Goat

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    So where is Durant going to force his way to when Kyrie blows this thing up?
     
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  35. LuPoor

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    You tried
     
  36. CF3234

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    Danny Ainge is going to be unbearable this summer with all the Donovan Mitchell stuff.
     
  37. Clown

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    Orlando doesnt leak anything and while they love longbois like Chet, the last two 1sts were Cole Anthony and Jalen Suggs.

    I'd be pretty shocked if they went Banchero at one as they haven't even confirmed if he was in for visit, but it's not a zero percent chance.
     
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  39. Celemo

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    Sounds like a Portland deal for Anunoby is dead. Toronto wants Simons & the #7 pick lol
     
  40. joey jo-jo jr shabadoo

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    if i was on this board in 2009 a majority of my nba thread posts would have been rudy and anthony randolph propaganda
     
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    Rudy Fernandez has a special place in Nuggets lore for his role in this play which was Kenneth Faried's first NBA bucket

     
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  42. Celemo

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    I was staking my claim on Nic Batum Island back then

    Roy and Aldridge were in like year 3-4 together by '09-'10
     
  43. Xander Crews

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    i was convinced Ricky Rubio would be a multi year MVP and champion
     
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    rickyrubio4life
     
  45. electronic

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    There’s no legitimate reason not to, so I’m guessing there is some posturing here either from Charlotte or from teams trying to get him to demand out.
     
  46. steamengine

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  47. Yanks711

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    But why though??
     
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    :roll: :roll: