Interesting to see what happens if the athletes win. Will Title IX require equal pay to all the student-athletes on Olympic sports teams that lose money? If so, then college sports as we know it is over. At most colleges, only the football and men's basketball teams make a profit.
Would they be able to do "Players for each sport get X% of profits for that sport"? That makes the most sense but idk if that would be legal.
I imagine what will happen is something along the lines of all get the $6k being discussed and/or the NCAA can’t prohibit student endorsement deals, but someone like herb.burdette would have the best pulse on what’s next
The schools have a legitimate argument that they can use revenue sport profits to fund nonrevenue sports. There is no basis to restrict what an athlete can earn from third party sources. It’s going to legitimize booster payments under the guise of image/likeness revenue for appearance fees, advertising, etc. Then the only way to limit that is allow a union with collective bargaining, because those agreements are exempt from antitrust law. That’s why the NFL players union dissolved itself in 2011 and filed antitrust.
What’s next is 17 states go live on 7/1/21 allowing athletes some form of compensation for their names and likenesses, regardless of how this case is decided. The NCAA will have to adopt rules, which it refused to do on 1/30/21. Otherwise, each school in each state operates under state law. The train is coming down the tracks regardless of this decision.
I wonder how much money is basically wasted because insane economics of college football. It’s a capitalist-slavery economy that operates on a mercantile-zero sum game platform for people who actually get paid. Paying coaches 7 or 8 figure sums because they aren’t meeting expectations is insanity.
It’s legal to determine pay based on revenue generated. That’s why head coaches for men’s basketball and football make more in general than every other sport.
It's the reason why you see these schools spending millions of dollars on ridiculous, team-specific, facilities & amenities. AD's don't want to carry over profits from year-to-year so it lessons the argument around paying players..."look, we'd love to pay you, but we've got nothing left over after covering all the costs for coaches, non-revenue sports, and facility upgrades so all of our teams can remain competitive." It's not just salaries. It's why you're seeing locker rooms that are swankier than a 1st class suite on Emirates (s/o Jax Teller ), barber shops & game lounges, laser light shows after a touchdown, fucking retina scanners to enter a facility, etc.
Clemson's mini baseball diamond for their football players to play home run derby makes as much financial sense as joining Mitch McConnell's Onlyfans.
exactly. Everyone crying how this is going to cause schools to cut sports are full of shit. If they do that it’s because they want to, not because they have to.
I use these numbers every time. In 1978, Woody Hayes made $44,000. In 1990, John Cooper was $99,000. By 2001, Tressel was at $700,000. By 2012, Meyer was $7 million. What happened in between is the the NCAA lost its right to negotiate TV rights exclusively in 1984 in a US Supreme Court antitrust case. ESPN began the standard 12:00, 3:30, 8:00 regional/national broadcast in the 1990’s. The BTN launched in 2007 and every conference has a network. The product became more available than ever, and revenue soared. The NCAA tried to limit coach salaries in the 1990’s and lost that antitrust case. The student-athlete amateurism model never changed.
Lol at John Cooper making less than 100k to coach Ohio State. In context it makes sense but it's funny to think about
At the time, Gordon Gee was hired at $101,000. We wanted to make sure our football coach didn’t make more than our President. Seems quaint now.
And schools still hide behind title IX to eliminate men's and women's sports to justify spending so much on football and basketball
The real issue is which programs are truly financially independent from the school. The Ohio State AD typically turns a net profit and donates it all back to the school’s general fund. There are a lot of schools that only keep up because the academic arm can donate millions toward the football program.
Agents have also convinced ADs (largely through the media) that coaches need to have at least 4 years left on their contract or recruiting will go downhill. The amount of schmoozing that agents do with media types would be fascinating to hear about.
That is an issue a lot of universities will have to face. I think it is an interesting point about Title IX. I can see a scenario where schools just start folding sports because they can not keep up with the price to play them, especially with Title IX with non-profitable sports. Non P5/FCS schools are about to get crushed.
Right and that is while having offered 37 varsity sports. Other schools have around mid 20's or less. Covid may have helped speed up schools having to cut sports but they're already facing changes from paying students, letting them earn money from their likenesses and Title IX requirements.
Pretty sure the SEC is about to get about $20mm extra per team per year in revenue with their new contract. They're doing nothing. that money will go to coaches buyouts and absurd facilities. But no money for players
the goal is the sham version of college sports ends either have actual amateur athletics or don't, schools made that choice once upon a time when none of these sports made money either, that dynamic hasn't changed there's just a huge behemoth in the corner that everything is centered around
I find myself watching YouTube channels where people review each airline’s premier products quite often
The goal is to end amateurism before the NCAA Championship this weekend. CBS is only allowed 1 major event in a week.
This has been my position on the Supreme Court since my first year of law school all of the justices are some sort of loser/nerd combo. They all suck
Hope this moves us closer to a “minor league” system of CFB and CBB. If the top 30 teams could break off from being under NCAA guidelines and start a league sign me up... Wishful thinking it goes that far but hopefully shit starts to change.
FIFA has also kinda made themselves untouchable by controlling the sport from all levels. The NCAA can be replaced.
Where it gets tricky especially now is the smaller schools. This has been very eye opening for me dealing with catering food to college programs. We had a small college come to Auburn and in order to save on travel booked games for their soccer, baseball, and softball teams in the same weekend so they could travel together. Keep in mind we are in a pandemic so they risked having three teams quarantine if anyone got sick but they had no choice because of financial constraints. Their budget for meals was $6.50 a player and he said it had to cover whatever we could manage because he wasn't allowed to spend outside of that at Sams or Costco to supplement. I did a food order for an SEC baseball team that traveled here last week and their budget for meals per player was $11.50. He had a coolers full of snacks, drinks, etc. already set up for them. These smaller programs won't be able to pay their players anything even though they should. I think the Power 5 schools will probably split off and do their own thing if it comes down to it.
Yea the money gap is huge. Big schools would pay and small schools wouldn't. But would that change anything? A kid isn't choosing South Alabama over Alabama now. I can see the big schools breaking off simply bc they don't want to share the pie with anyone else though.
When the Big Ten Network launched, the conference reached out to the MAC to gauge interest in adding more sports content in the same cable footprint. ESPN viewed Fox’s ownership interest in BTN as a threat, so it offered mid-week MAC Action. A lot of MAC ADs were very reluctant to move games midweek. They ultimately went with ESPN to diversify, because their AD revenues are far too dependent on Big Ten football payouts for the series of single games every MAC team plays nonconference. They don’t field half their teams without that revenue.
Can see Bama, Ohio State, Clemson, UGA, Etc pull even further away from the rest of the pack. The have and the have nots will become even more apparent than they already are even in P5.
Disagree. What sets those schools apart is the willingness of boosters organize and play the bag game. With it being out in the open and legal, it will be a lot easier for the other schools that don’t have the same kind of underground bag game to make competitive offers.