NHL Thread: ENTER NOW FOR ANNUAL LEAFS MELTDOWN

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  1. DeToxRox

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    Meant for the UM team board. But that works
     
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  3. CF3234

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    Meh. It was a hard hit. Sucks guy got hurt. That’s the danger of having a 19 year old who is 160lbs on the ice.
     
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  4. IHHH

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    Dude, he basically threw him on the ice, he checked him but it was not necessary to shove him down onçe he was unbalanced. If he were a Florida player you would have a completely different opinion, it’s hard to take you seriously. That was a cheap play, if you want to argue that it’s part of the game and you want it to be part of the game, alright but you better not whine like you always do because someone hooked Barkov a little too hard,
     
  5. miles

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    He knew EP's feet were off the ice/he was horizontal and then made a second effort to put him down harder. Bad take, boss :twocents:
     
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  6. CF3234

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    Players get shoved down every night. He’s 160 pounds and went down easy like someone who is at a size and strength disadvantage should. It wasn’t a head shot, it wasn’t boarding, it wasn’t a knee on knee. There’s nothing wrong with that play. Sucks he’s hurt and hopefully he passes concussion protocol soon
     
  7. IHHH

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    Then there is nothing wrong with domi beating ekblad’´s nose in, sucks he is hurt but that’s what happens when you cross check like it’s open season. Agreed?
     
  8. IHHH

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    Plus ekblad is bigger, so he should not have gone down like a little pussy. Right?
     
  9. Illinihockey

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    That didn’t look too dirty to me. If he wasn’t hurt no one would be talking about it at all.
     
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  10. CF3234

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    And? If EP gets up and skates away nobody says a word because it wasn’t an illegal play. He finished a hard hit on a young skill player who was unfortunately hurt.
     
  11. CF3234

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    Dropping a glove and sucked punching someone in the face=shoving a player down now? What the hell is wrong with you?
     
  12. IHHH

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    This is hard for people who never played to see, but he clearly threw him down, it’s a hockey play, he is just finishing him but he knows he will hurt the guy. No need to do this, it’s a dangerous play and the guy throwing pettersson down knew it while doing it. Whenever you see a guy off balanced and you just shove his head towards the ice , you know what you are doing
     
  13. miles

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    Yeah, and bleeding on a high stick results in twice the penalty length.

    ofc a guy getting hurt or not matters on a play like that.
     
  14. Illinihockey

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    He knew it’d hurt, he didn’t know he’d hurt the guy.
     
  15. CF3234

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    He knows EP will be hurt on the play? How?
     
  16. IHHH

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    Are you fucking kidding me?
     
  17. CF3234

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    A high stick is a penalty that play wasn’t.
     
  18. IHHH

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    Seriously canefan?

     
  19. miles

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    It's a shitty play for the same reason a slew foot is a shitty play. Do you "know" he's going to get injured? No, but it opens up the potential for a guy to hit his head on the ice, and you don't fuck with that. He knew he had him in a dangerous position and doing what he did could end badly.
     
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  20. CF3234

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    Seriously what? Other then the fact that it sucks a young exciting rookie got hurt, what did Matheson do that was illegal?
     
  21. CF3234

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    You keep making comparisons to plays that are penalties. That play isn’t a penalty.
     
  22. IHHH

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    Alright, let’s agree to disagree. But imagine if that happened to a Florida player. You would be pissed, this was a dirty play.
     
  23. IHHH

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    Yes it is, he locked his feet and threw him down. It is a penalty, could be interference since the puck is long gone, could be roughing....could be a lot of things
     
  24. CF3234

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    Interference? Wat?
     
  25. IHHH

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    No
     
  26. IHHH

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    Dirty as fuck, and it was legal until he shoved him down head first. If you can’t see how that play is wrong I really don’t know what to tell you anymore
     
  27. IHHH

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    Funny thing is if pettersson was wearing a panthers jersey you would agree with me
     
  28. miles

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    There's no specific rule for it because it's a weird situation that rarely happens. But that could easily fall under the discretion of roughing. (Usually reserved for motions to the head, but doesn't have to be)
     
  29. miles

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    Yeah, upon slow-mo review, that's 100% roughing.

     
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  30. Illinihockey

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    Slew foot is different. He hits him shoulder to shoulder and drives through him, that’s just not a cheap shot
     
  31. miles

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    I didn't call it a slew foot, because it wasn't one. I said it was dirty for the same reason, (because you're sending a guy down hard, off balance and horzontally) and that you don't "know" if a guy is going to get injured when you slew foot someone either. But no one would try to claim a slew foot isn't dirty just because he might have only been trying to "hurt" instead of injure him.
     
  32. Illinihockey

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    Except he just hit him and drove through his check. It real time it happens so fast, he hits him and drives through the check. He didn’t try to tie his feet up or lift him or anything, it’s just a really fluky play. I feel like I’m constantly on the other side of calling hits dirty, I just don’t think this one was
     
  33. miles

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    I just posted a slow motion replay. Watch it. It's an obvious punching/pushing motion to the neck area that sends his head into the ice. If he just fell like that it would have been fine, but that's not how it went down.
     
  34. Illinihockey

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    Right he pushes him, he doesn’t know he’s going to go head over ass there. He hits him with his shoulder then drives through the check with his arm. He didn’t pin his leg or anything like that, it was just a fluke
     
  35. miles

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    What are you talking about? He's sideways and pushes his neck area downward. Does he not understand physics?
     
  36. Illinihockey

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    He wanted to push him down but if I go and push you in the neck, it doesn’t result in your feet going up in the air 99 times out of 100
     
  37. miles

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    HIS FEET ARE NOT TOUCHING THE GROUND WHEN HE SHOVES HIM

    I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here
     
  38. Illinihockey

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    The play happens in like half a second. It’s not the matrix.
     
  39. miles

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    :ded:

    "Oh, sorry. I didn't have time to recognize that when I shoved the uppermost portion of your body directly downward towards the ice that that might be the region that you would land on."
     
  40. Illinihockey

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    How miles sees the hit

     
  41. soulfly

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    :roll: CF3234 would absolutely be howling if that shit happened to one of his own
     
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  42. soulfly

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    Oh. Okay.
     
  43. Corky Bucek

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    You should have just tagged me instead of the team tag fwiw
     
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    Lol at anyone thinking pushing someone downwards is natural
     
  45. Pasta88

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    Roughing penalty but no more than that imo. If it wasn’t Petersson involved no one would be crying.
     
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    I'd give him a game or two just to get him on record this year, if he does something again then I'd give him the book, but not for that.
     
  47. enjj

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    Don’t think there’s anything wrong with the play. Guy is finishing his check and he pushes down a weaker player. Don’t want to get pushed down? Get stronger.
     
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    The Canadian logic of I got embarrassed so I'm allowed to get a cheap shot in, love that.
     
  49. enjj

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    Lots of non Canadians in this thread don’t seem to have a problem with the play.
     
  50. miles

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