NHL Thread: R.I.P. Johnny Hockey

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  1. DeToxRox

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    Can I interest you in a lightly used Husso
     
  2. zeberdee

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    rather they just play the young Russian.
     
  3. DetroitNole

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    Holy shit at the penalty call with 3 min left to give NJ a PP down a goal
     
  4. miles

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    Oh man. Cotter just toe picked 3 feet from the nearest Detroit player and they gave NJ a power play.
     
  5. Manny

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    SUCK IT NJ
     
  6. DetroitNole

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    Getting credit for a hit while simultaneously scoring a goal

     
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  9. dump

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    make these permanent

     
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  10. miles

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    They'll lose two games in November and he'll come back up and they'll win two, and everyone will credit it to the 3 hits he made.
     
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  11. Pasta88

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    After essentially having an elite penalty kill for 15 years, the Bruins penalty kill is now terrible.

    Unfortunately this year’s Bruins might just be what many people thought last year’s Bruins would be. It’s early but vibes are low
     
  12. miles

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    Yeah, not sure what's going on, but they've been a poor 2 way team in general this year after being a possession monster for the better part of the last 2 decades. The only regular players on the team with a greater than 50% expected goal share is their 4th line, which is wild.
     
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  13. Pasta88

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    My root causes are:
    - Marchand looking old/maybe hasn’t recovered from his offseason surgeries.
    - a blueline full of absolute units that are unsurprisingly slow moving/with the puck and take penalties.
    - the penalty kill being completely ineffective + taking too many penalties in the first place (see the second point).
    - Jack Edwards retiring negatively affecting the vibes.

    Sweeney has constructed the team for long playoff series, but the problem is we have to make the playoffs first.
     
  14. CF3234

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    fixed it for you
     
  15. Pasta88

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    Oversimplification so I am going to reject the tracked changes.
     
  16. Illinihockey

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  17. Pasta88

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    Part-time staff and long-time contractors probably crying themselves to sleep tonight.
     
  18. IrishLAX2

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    Sounds like Lafreniere didn’t want to be signed past 30
     
  19. miles

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    Ottawa completely shits the bed in the last 3 minutes.
     
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  20. CF3234

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    It’s Ottawa. Their defense is terrible despite having 2 future Norris winners on it.
     
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  22. bro

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  23. bro

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    Season temporarily uncanceled

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  24. miles

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    For my own entertainment I hope Tage is back this year. His highlight tape from the year before last was maybe the best outside of McDavid in recent years.
     
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  25. CF3234

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  26. Pasta88

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    Wouldn’t it have been in Edmonton for games 4 and 6 last playoffs? :crossedarms:
     
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  28. ohhaithur

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    no interference and the panthers bragging about it lmao
     
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  29. The Banks

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    1. Interference
    2. Holding the stick
    3. Crosscheck

    How are NHL refs so bad to miss all three and why can’t we use technology to get these calls right? Would take less than 30 seconds.
     
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  30. CF3234

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    Bad call and bad look. I’d be fuming if the roles were reversed.
     
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  31. IHHH

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    Yet when the hurricanes get away with some unreal calls you are perfectly fine defending it
     
  32. DeToxRox

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    San Jose going winless in October back to back years appears to actually be happening
     
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  33. ohhaithur

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    trust the process
     
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  34. IHHH

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    As a mtl fan, I am just looking forward to the next lottery
     
  35. miles

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    First period was one of the most lopsided I've ever seen. 21 shots to 4.
     
  36. Pasta88

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    NGL I love that. Screw goalies.
     
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  37. Pasta88

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    I am not looking it up to see if it’s true or not, but surely last night was the first game where three different Arizona raised players scored in the same game? Knies, Kastelic, Matthews
     
  38. miles

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    Interesting situation in Philly. Dach has the puck, Couturier skates toward him, knocks the puck away, and pretty clearly unintentionally clips Dach in the chin with his back. Dach doesn't like it, Xhekaj goes after Couturier, and both drop gloves despite Couturier obviously not being thrilled about it. Right as they start, Seeler jumps on Xhekaj and prevents the fight.

    Refs convene and Xhekaj ends up with the only penalty. I think the NHL should enforce more plays that way because guys constantly having to fight for nothing plays is fucking stupid, but you pretty much never see refs make calls that way.
     
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  39. CF3234

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    I don't like it. Regardless of whether he was "forced", he did drop the gloves. Once they do that, it's a fight and Seeler is clearly a 3rd man in. Nothing actually requires Coutuirer to fight. Could have just kept himself tied up with Xhekaj and waited for someone to join the scrum and save him, but he didn't. Should have been a Montreal PP there.
     
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  40. miles

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    Agreed 100%. Was trying to articulate that Montreal got fucked in the current context of the rules, but I think they need to do something about players going after guys and clearly initiating fights during the run of play.
     
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  41. CF3234

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    If Seeler never jumps in then the correct call would have been 5 each for fighting and a 2 min instigator for Xhehaj. But because Seeler jumped into a fight already in progress, the correct call should have been
    5 min Couturier-Fighting
    5 Min Xhekaj-Fighting
    2 Min Xhekaj- Instigating
    5 Min Major and Game Misconduct- Seeler-3rd man in.

    Final result
    2 min at 4 on 4 then a 3 minute major PP for Montreal
     
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  42. miles

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    I think my issue mainly stems from the fact that instigator penalties are very rarely called.
     
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  43. zeberdee

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    guys having to answer for clean hits is one thing, but this was a guy having to answer for barely grazing a guy in the neutral zone.I get the letter of the law, but it would have been ridiculous if Montreal ended up with a power play over that. I think the refs gave Seeler the benefit of the doubt because he just grabbed Xhekaj and didn't take any shots.
     
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  44. Pasta88

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    You would know more than me but I’ve never got that impression. My brain is saying that they’re usually called in the classic big hit + third guy jumps in to fight the hitter but maybe it’s changed and I haven’t noticed.
     
  45. The Banks

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    Instigator and third man in should be called far more often.
     
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  46. CF3234

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    Not sure I agree. I feel like refs have done a good job of calling an instigator penalty when players are made to answer for a clean hit. The call I never see is the 3rd man in which was what we clearly saw in this one.

    The problem is that seeler did get involved after the gloves were off for both.That should have been an auto major. benefit of the doubt would have been a matching minor and 4 on 4.

    Just my 2cents on the play
     
  47. miles

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    Data doesn't have the last 3 years, but from 2013 to 2021 there was about 1 instigator penalty called per 20 NHL games. Over that same span, there was an average of about .5 fights per game. So only 1 in every 10 fights receives an "instigator" call as well. Considering how often fights happen between a guy that made the hit and a guy that had nothing to do with the play, I think that's way low.
    https://www.icydata.hockey/vizzes/penalties-dashboard/7
     
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  48. The Banks

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    NHL games this week:

    Mon: 8
    Tue: 7
    Wed: 6
    Thurs: 7
    Fri: 6
    Sat: 11
    Sun: 7

    This may be the most balanced weekly schedule in NHL history
     
  49. IHHH

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    lol

     
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    Reinhart really regressing to the mean here