NHL Thread: Roy is War

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  1. IrishLAX2

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    My favorite early nugget that was gleaned when that data first became available is that Jack Johnson is one of the fastest defensemen in the league and Adam Fox is one of the slowest.
     
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  2. Truman

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    He coulda been really good :(
     
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  4. fucktx

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    Hopefully they continue to suck for a few years and bedard requests a trade instead of being a pussy like mcdavid

    :pray:

     
  5. Manny

    Manny I love Lip

     
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  6. nexus

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    maybe he has a future outside of the net
     
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  7. CF3234

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    FUCK YEAH JARRY
     
  8. devine

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    Idk why but i didn’t realize there’s been that few goalie goals in nhl history
     
  9. Sub-Zero

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    He almost went top shelf with it.
     
  10. WC

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    The Canes are once again giving up goals at a 30% shooting clip
     
  11. WC

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    Shots are 42-14 and we’re in OT at 4-4
     
  12. IHHH

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    science
     
  13. Gunners

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    Caps PP is 5.7%, jfc

    I have no clue how this team has a decent record besides Charlie Lindgren playing out of his mind(only has 7 starts though)
     
  14. Gunners

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    POWER PLAY GOAL!


    Last 1 was over a month ago. Tom Wilson with 2 goals and 2 minors, nobody cares and I don’t care that nobody cares
     
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  15. Sean Connery

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    Also did this :laugh:

     
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  16. nexus

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    a goal, snapping an opponents stick and a season ending injury in the same game is known as the Jarry
     
  17. CF3234

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    I care. Fantasy god
     
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  18. DeToxRox

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    How in the world has Ottawa only played 17 games?
     
  19. DeToxRox

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    This has happened to them twice now. Just terrible.
     
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  20. miles

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    That’s horrible
     
  21. DeToxRox

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  22. CF3234

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    Good number for him. Really enjoyed interacting with him when he was down here
     
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  23. IHHH

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    seems like a good guy, his potential was always high. It did not believe he had it in him but he is a very solid backup on a good team. In mtl he should be number one
     
  24. WC

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  26. bro

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  28. CF3234

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  29. miles

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    -Makar is the best defenseman since who? Lidstrom?
    -Faber is really fucking good. Guerin did about as well as he possibly could have knowing he couldn't keep Fiala.
    -Barkov is having an insane two way season. Carrying Florida right now.
     
  30. Lip

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    do you have the other graphics?
     
  31. CF3234

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    What's wild about the Panthers is that Tkachuk's underlying numbers are the best of his career, but he's on pace for like 57 points. The regression to the mean will be very real.
     
  32. Sean Connery

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  33. miles

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    Just noticed that the caps are averaging a shade over 2 goals per game, have a goal differential of -7, and are 12-7-2.

    wat
     
  34. Gunners

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    .64 expected goals for Arizona and they have 5, good times
     
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  35. miles

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    This is an interesting stat, partially because of the teams at the bottom. Common denominator between the good teams near the bottom of the list is that teams like Boston, Vegas, Toronto, NY, (And Buffalo, despite them not being good) all play a kind of "total hockey" style where one or sometimes both defensemen jump up in the play at the same time and spend a lot of time below the circles.

    LA and Carolina play a very standard 2 defensemen high type offense. Both work, just depends on the pieces you have.
     
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  36. WC

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    Canes also bury teams in their own end as well as anybody. Hard to generate odd man rushes when you need 4 guys just to dig the puck out.

    Oddly enough it’s felt like we’ve given up more of these than usual this year but that stat directly contradicts that feeling.
     
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  37. WC

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    So I’m not a lifelong hockey guy, and would like an opinion from the thread experts. Canes play a max effort style of hockey. Grind the forecheck until chaos yield a scoring chance. The PP is problematic and has been for a couple years, especially when playoffs come. There are very few easy goals it seems.

    Some fans, myself included, wonder if that style inhibits them in the playoffs because of an 82 game schedule that required them to go all out, every game to win. It’s obviously been successful during the regular season, so it works, but I have to think that inability to just get easy goals is taxing by April.
     
  38. zeberdee

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    I wouldn't say the style inhibits them in the playoffs, but you're not going to get the same marginal advantage when every team is playing a high effort style. also, that style is going to exploit bad players and there are less of them in the playoffs.

    also there's always variance.
     
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  39. Illinihockey

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    exactly this
     
  40. WC

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    Makes sense to me. The effort in the playoffs equalizing is also something I’ve considered. All good points, much appreciated.
     
  41. IHHH

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    What zeberdee said, plus the canes are missing a game breaker. Those usually tend to give you a few goals a series that you would not get without them. Just like in football, elite talents give you an edge and a greater margin for error.
     
  42. miles

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    Oilers shopping Broberg. Wasn't that pick considered a reach at the time?
     
  43. WC

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    That’s the general feel among the fanbase. Aho and Svechnikov are ~top 50 players but we don’t have that Eichel, Tkachuk, Mackinnon type that can drag a team to wins for a couple games. But those guys are kind of hard to come by.
     
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  44. IHHH

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    no doubt, and they are not absolutely needed but it makes it easier.
     
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  45. miles

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    Idk if this is a hot take, but IMO the vast majority of repeated playoff failures just comes down to variance. The best teams in the league only win a little over 60% of their games.

    Caps and Bruins were excellent teams for like a decade straight or longer and only have one cup each this century.
     
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  46. miles

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    re: stars.

    Then again, look at Toronto and Edmonton. Those two teams probably have the most star power in the league and neither has won shit/both usually go out pretty quickly.
     
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  47. IHHH

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    true, but because their teams are built like shit. I absolutely think the canes can win with their roster but switch their best player for one of mackinnon, mcdavid, makar…etc and they would have won a cup already. It’s not a crazy point, just that a little bit of a better roster gives you a better chance. The blues won with a roster similar to the canes although I would argue that pietrangelo was a better player than anything the canes have now

    but their is definitely a chance aspect to all this.
     
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  48. DeToxRox

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    Seeing so many empty seats in Buffalo is sad. I saw a game there in 06 and the atmosphere was insane. It shouldn’t be this way.
     
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  49. construxboy

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    Losing forever will do that to a fanbase.
     
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  50. WC

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    Chance is a fickle bitch