NHL Thread: Taking a Break to Listen to Free Bird (Hopefully on Repeat)

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  1. Truman

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    Tavares?
     
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  2. The Banks

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    That’s who I was thinking of, he was probably hovering around that 10 spot back then.
     
  3. WC

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    While Florida is in a league of its own, it’s interesting that Carolina and Colorado are right there with Vegas — not the two other no-state-tax contenders, Dallas and Tampa Bay. Dallas gets the best RFA discount in the league (where there doesn’t seem to be much of a measurable no-state-tax advantage compared to UFAs), but its UFA track record is a bit spottier (hello Ryan Suter, Matt Dumba and Ilya Lyubushkin). A majority of Tampa Bay’s deals have simply been fair or modest wins, just not to the degree of Carolina or Colorado.

    While it can be argued that Carolina and Colorado also have an advantageous tax situation, those two cities are on par with Boston, Chicago, Columbus, St. Louis and Washington — all of which fall on the wrong side of the ledger above
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    Essentially, the tax advantage is beatable and it stems primarily from limiting big mistakes.

    How much of a discount do 'no-state-tax' teams actually get? A look at the last five years of UFA contracts and one reason why the Panthers get the most out of their tax situation. www.nytimes.com/athletic/648...

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  4. CF3234

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    Almost like playing for an elite org matters just as much as state taxes...
     
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  5. WC

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    Florida seems to be unique in their contract structures being so signing bonus heavy, which I think has been mentioned itt. Huge chunks of their retained stars money is paid via signing bonus, allowing it to be tax free. Vs having to pay the tax of the away cities on your full salary.

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  6. miles

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    Seattle not doing anything to beat the terribly run org allegations
     
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  7. miles

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    Right after this Samoskevich signs for league minimum lol
     
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  8. CF3234

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    It's not like he really had any other options. and I'm sure they will take care of him next year when they have more capspace
     
  9. The Banks

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    Been that way since the lead up to the expansion draft.
     
  10. ohhaithur

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    Giannis on a live stream talking about how he'd rather play in Florida than for the Knicks today :laugh:
     
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  11. miles

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    Yeah, it was just funny timing.

    That said I do dislike that young RFA’s can still kinda get fucked over like this. Even if they get paid later they’re still losing money on the whole.
     
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  12. miles

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  13. WC

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    Dallas gonna add Crosby and Karlsson and just see if the NHL notices they’re $15m over the cap.
     
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  15. WC

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    Roger Goodell is a cancer but that dude would never let the owners take away a chance to dominate a media cycle.
     
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  17. The Banks

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    Seems like a very niche issue, especially with them now being able to take a step up to NCAA
     
  18. Truman

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    Is this to help the CHL? Can make a case for a shorter commitment w an opportunity to play against older guys if you're ready
     
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  20. The Banks

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    But why?
     
  21. soulfly

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    :killme:
     
  22. DeToxRox

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    Got them to the cap floor, I think. It’s a wasted roster spot but my assumption is SJ believes having Reaves dressed will limit liberties against their kids.
     
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    it’s not what this is saying my friend
     
  24. CF3234

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  25. miles

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    TIL Sam Reinhart's real name is Samson
     
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  27. Sub-Zero

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    Cifu’s name left off. Good.
     
  28. CF3234

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    Yup. All time fumble.
     
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  31. WC

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    Friend of mine is from Montreal and went up to see some family and just happened across the Cup walking down the street

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  32. Illinihockey

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    Marquee match up
     
  33. zeberdee

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    congrats on your Stanley Cup - here's a game at 5pm on a Tuesday.
     
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  34. WC

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    You can’t expect the champs to get the prime time slot when there’s 2 teams that missed the playoffs who deserve that slot more.

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    Org isn't happy at all. Shit time slot, meh opponent, etc.

    How hard was it to schedule Tampa or Toronto for opening night?
     
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    it will never change unless hockey can get to a point where ratings aren't as dependent on the local market.
     
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    I’m kinda happy as hopefully that makes tickets a little cheaper. Also better for kids. Screw your tv ratings
     
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    Lightning season opener two years ago was Nashville at 5:00 on a Tuesday, fucking hated it. It should be illegal unless it’s a holiday.
     
  39. ohhaithur

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    Hard for working class people to get their kids out to the Everglades Strip Mall Arena for 5pm though
     
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    Oh it’s a terrible time and whatnot. I’m just being selfish this time since we come in from out of town anyway.
     
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    Hard for everyone outside of those with super flexible schedules. Not even joking had to cancel a depo set for 2:00 to make sure I'm out the door in time.
     
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    Somebody didn’t tell Gary that Bedard is no longer considered a generational talent.
     
  43. CF3234

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    Shoehorning a big market to draw ratings.
     
  44. The Banks

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    Lotta people in the Chicago market gonna be tuning in to a game at 4 PM on a Tuesday.
     
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    stupid decision #1 was starting a game at 5 est
     
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  46. Truman

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    No one in this city watches the Hawks until they make the playoffs. There was a little bit of juice after Bedard got drafted but they squandered it already.
     
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    Can’t believe they aren’t kicking things off with Sabres - Senators smh
     
  48. Illinihockey

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    the hawks were 3rd in the league in average attendance last year behind Montreal and Detroit
     
  49. Truman

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    Corporate tickets are doing wonders.

    Chicago is a very fairweather/bandwagon sports town. Except for the Bears. As die hard as it gets for them
     
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