The roster size allows for injuries as is. You dress 20, you roster 23. If you have 3+ injuries you can IR someone to bring someone else up. IR only needs to be 7 days/3 games.
i know you are kidding but It is huge. I bet I can guess which 4 teams rantanen was willing to go to. Tb, florida, dallas and vegas
i was just guessing, change the panthers for the preds it’s easier to run a franchise well when you get a 15 % discount on contracts
tell that to Panthers fans from 1999-2021. Or Arizona Coyotes fans. Players want to be part of well run organizations. Don't be a dumpster fire and elite players want to come to your team. This isn't rocket science.
it's still an advantage most teams who are well-run can find some advantage to sell themselves. Florida has warm weather and no state income tax. two very big advantages.
It's way worse from fans on twitter and reddit, but the constant "woe is me my team has state income taxes" from fans of huge market teams when they've had giant advantages over small market teams for decades is kind of lame. Lower taxes are an advantage, yes, but they're the only one that people ever complain about. -Tavares in Toronto got like half of his money on his current deal before the puck dropped in his 3rd season. Toronto can do that because of their ridiculous cash flows and that time value of money is crazy valuable compared to smaller market teams that may have to backload contracts instead of front load. -You can throw a rock in Toronto and hit like 3 billboards with Marner's face on them. The endorsements you can get in a market like Toronto, Montreal, New York, or Edmonton compared to a market like Nashville are night and day.
Couldn't agree more. But if you are still poorly run like the Panthers were, those advantages don't mean shit.
fans that post on twitter or reddit or hfboards are going to have terrible opinions based in extreme homerism. you should probably ignore them. being in a large market is another advantage well-run teams can capitalize on.
The tax advantage across all sports is wildly overstated. Not saying it isn’t a factor for some guys but people really overstate its impact across sports.
Free agents aren’t just flocking to tax havens exclusively. Furthermore money isn’t always the top motivator. And as a fan of a team in a state with no income tax it hasn’t always been the free agent haven people pretend it is. it’s A factor but the way people talk about it on message boards make it sound like THE factor. Maybe it’s a way for fans of teams who didn’t get the player to cope, I dunno.
because teams have a way to get around most of the tax issues. Paying in signing bonus allows that money to be taxed based on their residence rather than the home city they play in. Then you add in that players are taxed at the rate of where the games are played so it's only 41ish games that don't pay state income tax. Creative accounting narrows the income tax gap significantly. It's a lot more nuanced to realize that there's more than just a tax advantage as to why TB, FLA, DAL, and VGK are 4 of the best orgs in the league right now. There are a lot of "factors", yet the only one you are complaining about ITT is the income tax.
Teams are good because they get lucky and draft a bunch of players that all pan out at the same time, not because they sign a bunch of free agents
Florida are just so good at what they do. amazing organization that have overcome so much. what a model for the rest of the league. there, let's move on.
so you are just going to ignore the responses to your questions that have nothing to do with the panthers, take your ball and go home. Got it.
This is probably more true than most people want to admit. Dumb luck is super important. (But badly run organizations can still find ways to fuck it up)
Which also has its negativity. These guys can walk around Tampa, South Florida, Nashville etc. and nobody knows them. Going to the store in Toronto and get mobbed.
there are no good GMs (just guys that get lucky for a period) but there are a ton of outright bad GMs
Probably true in sports generally for the roster overall but I’m curious how many SC winning goalies are drafted vs FA. feel like NFL QBs is mostly all drafted or acquired via trade.
And taxes does play a part of decisions for free agents and anyone saying it doesn't is crazy. My buddy had the choice between the Bears & Jags last year and Bears were offering $3 mil more a year. And by the time taxes came around it was basically a wash
So does weather, hometown, city v. suburb, endorsement opportunities, chance of winning, roster construction, coaching staff, organizational stability/reputation, There are dozens of factors that go through a player's mind. Some are more important than others. Acting like no income state tax is the main reason teams like the Panthers, Lightning, Stars, and Knights are having success is extremely lazy. Fucking Winnipeg has the hardest job in the league and they manage to be in the playoffs almost every year. And that's with having a pussy for a GM who refuses to make the big move to try and put them over the top. Colorado has been on a run for a long time. They don't have an income tax advantage. Carolina is one of the best run teams in the league AND has a loaded prospect pool There are multiple ways to put a good team together. It's more than just having a tax advantage. Maybe don't hire a talking head from ESPN to run your team and a dinosaur to coach it and give yoruself an extreme handicap towards success.
Biz threw it out there that he heard that Dahlin went to Adams and told him that if shit doesn't improve, he will want out. so that's fun. love this never-ending cycle of shit.
nobody is saying any of this. you get yourself all worked up reading shitty content somewhere else and then project it onto us.
you were the one complaining about the tax advantage all morning and ignoring posts that explain how it isn't nearly as much of an advantage as the people who complain about it think it is.
lmao at taking anything biz says seriously. Guys throws shit against the wall and is rarely ever right. Eklund has more credibility.
being able to offer players more cash is an advantage. you cannot be a successful team on that alone. it's still an advantage.
Advantages are still advantages Home ice is an advantage but away teams still win 45% of the time. We know home ice is an advantage, recognize it but don't find it to be absolute All advantages should be treated with the same energy as home ice advantage does
The big thing about this advantage is not just attracting players, it’s that in a hard cap system you can pay a player 8 millions and another team has to give him 11 to even match. That is the big advantage. The hard cap is not the same for every team. That being said, like miles said, markets like Toronto can find a way by selling the fact that a player will make more money from sponsors.
Someone crunched the numbers and it was like 400K difference between Colorado and Dallas. Wouldn’t say that’s huge but I don’t sign 100M contracts.
I would like to see those Numbers for Canadian teams. I feel like this could easily be debunked and nobody seems to ever do it officially
of course they are. Which is why I find complaining about the income tax thing like it's the biggest advantage in the sport silly. It's one of many.
I don't think that's the case, I think you're trying to out-lawyer them I think people are saying "it's an advantage" and you're arguing "no, it's not the biggest advantage"
I honestly would love to know what influences a player(and their ego) more… actual umber on their paycheck or the number that gets released to the media. How many players want their name attached to a lower number even if it results in a slightly bigger paycheck? and to that end…how is the agent incentivized? Becusee if the agent gets the same percentage regardless…then the state income tax difference makes no difference to them and they may try to guide their client to the higher number.