NHL Thread: Too Many Passengers

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  1. CF3234

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    It's the high risk all out attacking style of forecheck. Panthers basically tell all 6 of their defenseman to always push forward and pinch at every opportunity. It leads to odd man chances, but the vast majority of the time it keeps teams pinned in their zone. It's a style that perfectly suits mobile defenseman but wouldn't work at all for the traditional slower defensive defenseman.

    Jack Han does a great job of explaining it.
     
  2. The Banks

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    The traditional slower defensive defenseman has been dead for a decade. Douglas Murray isn’t walking through the door anymore. Every team is looking for 6 mobile puck moving defensemen.
     
  3. CF3234

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    Tell that to Toronto who traded for Benoit and Carlo at the deadline.
     
  4. kinghill

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    Panthers won
     
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  5. The Banks

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    Benoit was signed as a FA for 775K after not getting a qualifying offer from Anaheim. He’s played two full seasons for Toronto. Are you thinking of someone else?
     
  6. CF3234

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    I could have sworn he was a deadline addition. Either way. There are still teams who employ big/slower defenseman. They aren't necessarily bad as long as they know how to move the puck. Chris Tanev is a prime example. He's really good for the leafs, wouldn't be so good for the panthers.
     
  7. The Banks

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    The guy responsible for those decisions just got let go so I’m not sure that’s the best example for your point.

    And it’s not like Florida’s group are all elite skaters, Ekblad’s skating has obviously been declining quick, old man Schmidt and Kulikov aren’t what they were 10 years ago when it comes to their skating. It’s like you’re taking Forsling and Mikkola and projecting it onto the entire D corp. Seth Jones has been solid in his lower role which I think everyone around the league agreed thought would be best for him.
     
  8. CF3234

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  9. miles

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    Better than Bergevin or the other retread failsons
     
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  10. The Banks

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  11. Truman

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    A bummer for the sport, but correct decision
     
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  12. The Banks

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    The Russian players that knew this decision was coming had every opportunity to speak out against the invasion.
     
  13. Truman

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    I dont think that would have changed the result. Also, im sure there are plenty that supported the invasion, some that are just dumb jocks that somehow couldnt speak intelligently on it one way or the other. And those who are against it and have families still in Russia cant speak out without fears of retribution.
     
  14. Pasta88

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    Regardless of an IIHF ban, it is very likely that many of the European countries (especially Czechia, Sweden, and Finland) would refuse to participate if Russia was in the tournament (and the war continued).
     
  15. miles

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    Yeah, that was why the 4 nations was what it was iirc. Sweden and Finland insinuated that if Russia was in, they were out.
     
  16. The Banks

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    How would’ve 5 nations worked in theory and been fair? Easiest decision in the world to leave Russia out.
     
  17. Wendel Clark

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    Current playoff format is awful
     
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  18. dump bueckers

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    man we could’ve gotten Gunners vs IHHH first round?!?!?!?!
     
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  19. CF3234

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    We did dump…
     
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  20. WC

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    I do think Florida in round 1 was a different team than Florida in the ECF. If there was a chance to beat them, it was before they got the ball rolling. I’m still really surprised Tampa went down that quickly.
     
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    and it was not very good because Gunners matured too much
     
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  22. IHHH

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    yeah, when they smell it they are tough to pull
     
  23. CF3234

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    Ehhh. Tkachuk was healthiest in round one.
     
  24. IHHH

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    but still, this team is now just bulldozing carolina. Maybe it’s just the opposition but I think they now found their stride
     
  25. CF3234

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    2 games. Carolina gets a few saves in game 3 and it’s going to be a completely different game.
     
  26. IHHH

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    CF3234 i saw a post of yours the other day that made me think that if the panthers go on to the finals you would prefer dallas, is that accurate and why?

    i would think you see Edmonton as a more dangerous team because of the elite talent while dallas is a little like florida but maybe less talented.

    my opinion is thât Dallas would give the panthers more trouble
     
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  27. IHHH

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    It’s over, florida can just play their game and they will smack Carolina.

    I predicted carolina and I was wrong
     
  28. ohhaithur

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    sorry to bring math into this but I have Florida as a slightly bigger favorite v. Dallas (53%) than Edmonton (51%)
     
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  29. IHHH

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    oh no, never apologize. That’s why I am asking
     
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  30. The Banks

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    Yup, Florida has been extremely efficient capitalizing on their scoring chances.
     
  31. IHHH

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    Also, had a convo with one of my friend that is coaching and played good hockey and he is really down on hutson. The narrative the last few years was that you need a d like him but out of the four left there is not any of these types left.

    I think this was overblowned because of makar, but he is not just a point guard type of offensive defenseman
     
  32. The Banks

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    Jeez McDonagh, maybe pivot from your random anecdote to make the call on the 2 on 1 short handed with Connor McDavid
     
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    He’s too busy talking about game 1 taking place last night.
     
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  34. The Banks

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    Just did it again lol. Guy mails it in far too often for people one of the “top” guys
     
  35. Truman

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    I was just coming to comment on this. First time I chalked it up to just a misspoken mistake. But it's been 5 or 6 times.
     
  36. Sub-Zero

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    Maybe that 3rd period in game 1 was an anomaly
     
  37. Truman

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    Or maybe habitual pants shitters will shit their pants once again.

    We shall see !
     
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  38. Gunners

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    Have no idea what we do with Cole but hope Lane keeps killing it so can at least have trade value.

    Our problem is left sided defenseman is kinda set for a while Chychrun, Sandin, and Fehervary is our closest thing to one of the speedy defensive defenseman that thrive in playoffs. Maybe take things slow and things work out because love the Hutson’s game

    Good talk, always love him but hopefully we don’t get crazy and hold on to Carlson after next season due to nostalgia. He’s still pretty good but abused in playoffs
     
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  40. dump bueckers

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    I swear to god if Roope is out for awhile I hope the city of Edmonton ices over
     
  41. dump bueckers

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    2 minutes?!?!?!

    fuck the nhl
     
  42. Illinihockey

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    bad result but it wasn’t an egregious slash
     
  43. bwi2

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    How the hell did he miss that
     
  44. Truman

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    Still time left but really is hilarious how all or nothing Skinner is
     
  45. bwi2

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    Human embodiment of a random number generator
     
  46. IHHH

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    he is always the same average goalie, if edm gives up anything they will get scored on. He is exactly the same goalie every game but the shot oppurtinities change is what I would say

    maybe we have some data?
     
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  47. The Banks

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    Vicious slash but you can’t call more than 2 for it.
     
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    Not happening this week.
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  49. Wendel Clark

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    It’s the perfect slash and what I wanted Toronto to do to Florida. Top of the foot or on the ankle
     
  50. CF3234

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    It's been a week already. Shouldn't your crashout be over by now?