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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Thoros of Beer, Feb 3, 2016.
I feel like you have NFL numbers in your head by judging catch numbers
He's averaging 3 catches a game for fucks sake
I only look at tds
Yeah, you got me good Dr. Richard Cranium , i was talking out of my ass on that one.
nd used him way more, Pitt is just using him on plays almost designed for him to be successfull.
It was going to happen
Yeah I have no issue with OSU jumping over us
all i want is to be close enough that were we to split the games with clemson (wont happen) that we would be in
The thing that kills me is that Nd is so close yet there is always one aspect of the team that is not up for the challenge.
agreed, although im happy we went from counting parts of the team that were good enough to compete to counting which parts of the team werent good enough to compete, pretty big improvement from the weis years
Remember this guy
That route is not in the playbook
Guyton on that 18 team....:(
Rewatched the game. Book played like shit. I don’t think he played any better than he did against Louisville. He was off target all day long and had a ton of bad reads. He did a nice job of avoiding pressure but that’s about it.
My two favorite things from the game: C'bo signaling first down in the middle of a pile and Lea checking looking at his watch during one of the last offensive drives. I can't remember the last time i laughed out loud during a ND game that wasn't because of a fumbled snap returned for 99 yards
New offer guys
The difference was he was willing to let his WRs make plays this past weekend.
If nothing else lse from yesterday, I hope Book starts chucking it up more when his reads go bad because in college you either get absurd plays like the Skawronek bomb or PI more often than not. Like if we are stuck with Skawronek, Wilkens, Mayer, and Tremble - at least just turn it into basketball on grass. Jump balls and back shoulder throws. There was a time where we had mediocre wide receivers and the Boykin and Claypool made a living on back shoulders. Now, Book probably has enough tape out there that teams are sitting on that but then just chuck up deep jump balls.
Will be a 2nd/3rd round pick as a hybrid S/LB and be a 3x all pro
would have been nice to offer before LSU did so we'd have a chance...sounds like he REALLY wanted a ND offer back in the spring
CLARK LEA DOES IT AGAIN
No one will confuse the Pittsburgh offense without its starting quarterback as a quality unit. In fact, even with Kenny Pickett in the lineup, it was going to be a monumental struggle for the Panthers against the nation’s No. 6 scoring defense, which is now at 9.8 points per game.
But defensive coordinator Clark Lea surrounded backup quarterback Joey Yellen, took talented freshman wideout Jordan Addison away, and didn’t let any of the other talented Pittsburgh receivers hurt them while squashing the running game in Notre Dame’s 45-3 whipping of the Panthers.
Let’s start with the overwhelmingly impressive stats. Pittsburgh had just 162 yards total offense on 53 snaps, or just 3.0 yards per snap. Yellen completed 37 percent of his throws and three were intercepted – one each by Bo Bauer, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah and Nick McCloud, which increased Notre Dame’s picks from one on 119 passes to four on 152 throws. It also lowered the pass completion percentage against the Irish to 51.3, which is sixth in the country.
The Irish have allowed just two touchdown passes in five games. The yards per attempt is 5.9, which places them 14th nationally and right in line with top five finishes in this category the previous two seasons. Notre Dame is seventh in defensive pass-efficiency rating.
It doesn’t take much to shut down the Panther rushing attack, so while the Irish had special attention on Jordan Addison – Pittsburgh’s leading receiver who managed just three catches for 40 yards – they were still able to squash the ground game at 2.2 yards per carry on 20 attempts netting 44 yards.
It’s difficult to figure out how good or bad leading ball carrier Vincent Davis is because most of the time, there’s backfield penetration before Davis has even successfully taken possession of the football from the quarterback. Notre Dame had just six tackles for loss, but the Panthers ran it just 20 times with three sacks. The tackles for loss came from Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa, Shaun Crawford, Justin Ademilola and Isaiah Pryor with one each, and half tackles-for-loss by Kyle Hamilton, Drew White, Isaiah Foskey and Ovie Oghoufo.
Pittsburgh had 12 full possessions. Seven covered eight yards or less. None were more than 43 yards. The Panthers didn’t even get into the red zone. They were 3-of-13 on third down, which improved Notre Dame’s money-down defense to 21.2 percent (14-of-66) for the No. 5 ranking in the country.
Up next: The No. 79 scoring offense in the country – Georgia Tech – which is averaging 22.8 points per game. The Yellow Jackets scored 46 against Louisville and 27 versus Boston College this past weekend, but just seven against Clemson, 20 versus Syracuse and 16 in a victory over Florida State.
DEFENSIVE LINE CONTROLS POINT OF ATTACK
The Pittsburgh offensive line is a difficult group against which to measure one’s defensive line play because, quite frankly, it’s a sieve. Yet this was a noteworthy performance for the Irish front with Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa playing his best game of the season, Kurt Hinish disrupting the middle of the Panther offensive line, Jacob Lacey and Jayson Ademilola stirring things up off the bench, and Notre Dame’s defensive ends creating enough havoc off the edge to fluster Yellen into three interceptions within a nine-pass stretch.
Tagovailoa-Amosa’s most impressive play was when he shoved senior left guard Bryce Hargrove back into quarterback Joey Yellen’s kitchen. MTA then bear-hugged both Hargrove and Yellen, one with each arm, to make the stop.
The stat sheet did not list Ade Ogundeji with a tackle, but he penetrated and made plays for others around him. The reason for Justin Ademilola not playing more has to be pass-rush ability because, like Bo Bauer at linebacker, he seems to show up every time he plays. This appeared to be Ademilola’s most extensive action and he was productive with four tackles (three solo) and a tackle for loss. Ovie Oghoufo also had his best game with three stops, including half-a-sack.
At one point, three-techniques Howard Cross III and Rylie Mills both were in the game. Mills has to learn how to get off blocks, otherwise he’s going to be a nose tackle. But his push against the Panthers was effective and impressive.
LINEBACKER UNIT EXCELS
After a sub-par performance against Florida State, it’s now two really good games in a row for Mike linebacker Drew White, who was sharp, alert, proactive, anticipatory and good all-around despite limited notches on the stat sheet.
The media and fan base must be missing something with Buck linebacker Shayne Simon because the Irish defense continues to excel with him in a starting role and playing a vast majority of the snaps at the position. You don’t hold a team to 162 yards total offense and 44 yards rushing without a Buck linebacker playing effectively, although Simon seems to flash more in the passing game than he does against the run. Additionally, he has just five tackles in four of Notre Dame’s five games. That’s not enough productivity for a Buck linebacker.
Generally, Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah shows prominently on the stat sheet and in the eye test. Not so much the former this week against the Panthers, although he did have his first career interception and a quarterback hurry. He was more in a supporting role against the Panthers where his presence, penetration and disruptiveness benefitted those around him. After the interception, I wrote down this note: What can’t he do?
When Todd McShay called Owusu-Koramoah one of the top 20 draft prospects in the country, there should be no argument. “He’s today’s NFL linebacker,” McShay said.
A bit surprised to not see more of Jack Kiser in place of Simon, but again, credit to Simon while Kiser found ways to be around the football when he did get snaps. Isaiah Pryor has found a position at Rover. His days at safety are over. He’s not great in space, but he really pressed the edge in the fourth quarter and ended up with a quarterback pressure, a fumble caused, a sack and two tackles. He still looks a little stiff, but this was noteworthy progress for him.
As for Bo Bauer, wow, the Irish junior is a completely different player from what he was in 2018-19. He’s always been aggressive, but to say he was football instinctive prior to 2020 would have been a stretch. The mere fact he’s become the nickel linebacker – and an effective one – is a major transformation in and of itself. Additionally, to see him spot and hit open gaps – against the run and as a pass-rusher – is a revelation.
Bauer’s interception was more Joey Yellen eyeing his target and releasing the football without seeing Bauer. But right place at the right time for his first career pick is sound defense.
What’s really exciting is that due to the pandemic, this is a free year for Bauer. The Irish could have him through 2022 if he were to stay for five years, which would give the Irish a fast-rising linebacker for a year longer than expected. Here’s hoping Bauer is around for two more seasons because he has become a very effective football player.
DEFENSIVE BACKS BUCKLE UP PITT RECIEVERS
The safety tandem of Kyle Hamilton and Shaun Crawford is truly a dynamic duo. Hamilton is Hamilton. His length and ability to be around the football when he shouldn’t be able cover ground in the passing game and close on the ball carrier/receiver is uncanny.
Crawford has great safety instincts and has a tremendous understanding of opposing team’s tendencies in the running game. He led the team in tackles (six) and solos (six) with a tackle for loss against Pittsburgh. That gives him just two for the season, but he has created numerous tackles for loss for teammates.
Hamilton could have avoided an interference penalty by allowing Jordan Addison to make the catch short of the down marker on 3rd-and-5. But he had Addison blanketed and made the play on the ball while holding on to the back of Addison’s jersey. I still don’t think a defensive back deserves a penalty for that play when he has the receiver covered as well as he did. Some contact from the back side is inevitable. Addison didn’t deserve a bailout call. He was covered.
Freshman cornerback Clarence Lewis’ name didn’t even appear on the post-game stat sheet, but he is a fundamentally sound performer who is going to be a real standout for the Irish over time. He and Nick McCloud (four tackles, an interception, a pass break-up) did a fine job of compensating for the absence of TaRiq Bracy, who was sidelined with an illness (not the coronavirus).
Safety D.J. Brown is around the football. He distracted the Pittsburgh receiver on a pass in the red zone. Now he just has to make a play on the ball. Backups cornerback Cam Hart saw extended action at the boundary with freshman Ramon Henderson and red-shirt freshman Isaiah Rutherford seeing time at field cornerback.
QUICK-HITTERS: DEFENSE/SPECIAL TEAMS
What a great shot of Joey Yellen looking at his receiver while throwing to a spot ahead of his wideout, which prevented him from seeing Bo Bauer eagerly awaiting the throw…Love everything about Shaun Crawford’s game, except when his feet occasionally get stuck in the mud and he reaches and grabs a receiver instead of moving his feet. He got away with a hold…Jack Lamb keeps showing up on kickoff coverage…Credit to Brian Kelly for calling a timeout near the end of the half to get Isaiah Foskey on the field to block the punt for a touchdown…
After the blocked punt/touchdown, the Irish kicked off with 11 seconds left in the first half. D.J. Turner called for a fair catch, which is lousy coaching. Return it! Turner’s good! It might go for a touchdown! What do you have to lose? What do you have to gain by calling for a fair catch with 11 seconds left?...Speaking of bad coaching, why send the quarterback to the sideline to get every play call? What is it, 1968? If you don’t want to signal it in because you’re concerned about signs being stolen, consult someone about signs. Or, as Todd Blackledge said, send the play in with the receiver. Yellen had enough on his plate with the Notre Dame defense without having to worry about jogging back and forth from sideline to huddle…Why is it every time I hear Todd McShay on the sideline – not this game but all of them – he is barely audible?..
I’m going to turn a deaf ear to all who complain about Notre Dame’s punt return choice of Matt Salerno. Virtually every punt he has caught has been unreturnable. But he catches everything. Yes, it would be nice to break a return every now and then, and I’m sure with space, Salerno can do it. But catching the football is the most important thing in today’s punt return game and he does it well. I like Salerno securing the football every time…Have to agree with ABC’s Sean McDonough and Todd Blackledge for their opinion about Pittsburgh’s uniforms. There’s great tradition (mixed in with some mighty lean years) with Pittsburgh Panthers football. But when Notre Dame comes to town, you wear all gray uniforms? As stated, if you turned the TV on, you’d know it was Notre Dame, but wouldn’t have any idea it was the Panthers. Have some pride in the brand.
IRISH FIND DOWNFIELD PASSING GAME
Consider that through four games, Notre Dame – 45-3 winners at Pittsburgh to raise its record to 5-0 overall and 4-0 in ACC play – had just eight passes of 20 yards or more through four games. By tacking on another six against the Panthers, Notre Dame’s total of 14 ranks tied for 46th nationally, and that’s with 19 teams ahead of them playing more than five games.
Ben Skowronek not only emerged as a go-to guy for the Irish downfield, but also flashed why he can be one of Notre Dame’s top options on 50-50 ball throws. While he’s not the most gifted athletically – remember his first catch in an Irish uniform against Louisville in which he had to take several steps backward to gain his footing before turning upfield – he has absolute vice-grips for hands, as evidenced on his 34- and 73-yard touchdowns against the Panthers.
In the last two games, Skowronek has caught four passes – two that went for first downs on third down against Louisville and two that went for touchdowns against Pittsburgh, including the 73-yard score on a 3rd-and-14.
Combined with freshman tight end Michael Mayer, who is rapidly developing into a star in his rookie year, the Irish have found pass-catchers they can turn to when a 50-50 connection needs to be made. ABC sideline reporter Todd McShay relayed the information that Brian Kelly called Mayer the most impressive freshman tight end that he’s coached, which is not surprising based upon his body of work through five games.
The loss of Kevin Austin Jr. (foot) for the season and Braden Lenzy (hamstring) for the immediate future compromises Notre Dame’s pass-catching corps even more. Kelly compared Austin’s re-injury to that of senior offensive guard Dillan Gibbons, who has successfully come back and is now working as Notre Dame’s No. 2 left guard. Time to let it completely heal and get him geared up for the spring. Disappointing, but it’s reality.
The current list of receivers the Irish trust is down to Skowronek, Mayer, Avery Davis, Javon McKinley, Tommy Tremble, Wilkins Jr. and Lawrence Keys III, who is coming back from a concussion.
While there’s clamoring for freshmen Jordan Johnson and Xavier Watts to step into the rotation, Johnson did not make the trip to Pittsburgh. Watts, who did travel, did not make a significant contribution against the Panthers.
Kelly tamped down the notion that now the freshmen must play. As it relates to Johnson, Kelly mentioned a few weeks ago some academic snags. The Athletic’s Pete Sampson recently mentioned Johnson’s knowledge of the playbook as a hindrance.
Mayer and a healthier Tremble – he seemed to be favoring his left leg and then showed discomfort with his forearm/wrist while diving for a pass in the end zone against Pittsburgh – have to become a more significant part of Notre Dame’s pass-catching corps moving forward without a couple of its top wideouts.
It’s not an ideal situation, but it’s Notre Dame’s situation, which improved with the performance against Pittsburgh. McShay said pre-Skowronek heroics that Notre Dame’s three best catchers on the football are a running back (Kyren Williams) and two tight ends (Mayer and Tremble). Skowronek belongs in that group as well based upon his last two performances.
Kelly compared Notre Dame’s skill-position weapons to power-play personnel on a hockey team. He wants to get his best options on the field, regardless of scheme. Among those in top contention for those spots are Williams, Skowronek, Mayer, Davis, Tremble and McKinley, although despite a nifty 41-yard catch and run, the latter continues to play stiff and lacks athleticism when it comes to those 50-50 balls.
BOOK STEPS UP
While it certainly was far from a perfect day for quarterback Ian Book – he threw incomplete on 14 of his 30 passes, missing several wide open receivers along the sideline in particular – his presence and performance are so overshadowed by criticism of his miscues that his great plays often are overlooked.
To come out of a game in which he threw for 312 yards and three touchdowns with more criticism of his performance than praise is over-the-top bias against him. Yes, his performances are measured by his projected ability to defeat Clemson, which would make all but a few quarterbacks in the country up to par.
But there are underrated aspects of his game that are getting short-changed. He has protected the football extremely well. Of his 124 passes, just one has been intercepted. He has carried 42 times without a fumble. Not turning the football over is a measurable asset of a quarterback.
Kelly would like to see Book trust his eyes and instincts and try to fit a few more tight window throws in there with Skowronek and Mayer emerging as solid options on those 50-50 balls.
“Be aggressive, stop trying to be perfect, stick the ball in there,” said ABC’s Todd Blackledge, relaying pre-game conversations with Kelly. “If it looks right, let’s go. Stop thinking about it and just react.”
That probably won’t ever be Book, whose confidence ebbs and flows like Pat Narduzzi’s sideline emotions. But by protecting the football and finding an array of receivers all over the field against the Panthers, it was a step forward for Book, albeit in his 28th career start.
As it pertains to Irish Illustrated’s recent comments about Book’s inability to see the middle of the field, it needs clarification. That doesn’t mean he can’t throw a quality pass down the middle of the field; it means when the middle-of-the-field receiver is not his primary target, he has difficulty finding that target when his initial reads are to his right or left.
Book eventually found Mayer in the back of the end zone against the Panthers for a 14-yard score. But it came late and after his first read to Wilkins to his left. And yet he threaded the needle, doubling his touchdown pass total for the season to six with his three strikes.
With Book, what you see is what you get. A solid college quarterback who protects the football well and can step up and make plays with his arm and his feet. The most underrated aspect of his game is his ability to keep the chains moving with his feet. He did it again at Pittsburgh. His 18-yard run to start an 87-yard drive against Pittsburgh came three plays before his 73-yarder to Skowronek. His six-yard run on 3rd-and-6 in the opening drive kept it alive and eventually led to a 7-0 lead.
After the Bo Bauer interception, Todd Blackledge said he’d like to see Book lead the offense on a 46-yard touchdown drive. That’s exactly what he did with an underthrown 20-yarder to Williams, an interference penalty in the end zone, and Williams’ powerful two-yard touchdown run.
Book’s running prowess is viewed by many as a last-resort move. But it’s part of his game, part of Notre Dame’s offense, and it’s very effective. It’s why Notre Dame played quality offense for three quarters against Duke, versus South Florida, against Florida State and Pittsburgh, and between the 20s against Louisville. Notre Dame’s offense has been good way more than it’s been bad through five games. The red-zone snafus against the Cardinals left a long shadow among perceptions.
DESPITE TOUGH SLEDDING, WILLIAMS STARS
Kyren Williams rushed for just 38 yards on 17 carries against Pittsburgh. That’s 2.2 yards per carry. Read the stat sheet and one would think that Williams wasn’t very impressive against the Panthers.
Quite the contrary. Irish fans should be even more excited about Williams despite his worst rushing production in five games that dropped his average per game to 104.8.
I love Williams’ game even more after the Pittsburgh game. He was acknowledged by Kelly as one of two offensive tone-setters for the Irish, along with tight end Tommy Tremble. Williams has made himself into a dynamic offensive presence.
His short-yardage runs, along with C’Bo Flemister and Book, converted two of those four 3rd-and-1 situations. On his two-yard touchdown run, he could have ducked under contact into the end zone or continued running wide of cornerback Jason Pinnock for the score. Instead, he gathered a head of steam and plowed into Pinnock, relishing the contact and making a statement to Pinnock.
He has vision, toughness, competitiveness and while he doesn’t pick up every pass block, his effort and intensity is every bit as evident as it is when he’s running the football. He also added 37 valuable yards on three catches in the passing game.
As it relates to other carries, Flemister deserves to get more touches in crunch time. That’s not to exclude Chris Tyree from the equation. But Tyree – despite averaging 6.2 yards per carry through five games – has not been as explosive and has not offered enough elusive wiggle to get the second most carries on the team.
Tyree can be used in a variety of ways, including within the passing game and on some exotic looks, although he had difficulty putting a foot in the ground and turning upfield on Notre Dame’s home turf through the first four games. Flemister’s pad level is exceptional and his 13 carries for 48 yards down the stretch put him atop Notre Dame’s rushing list against Pittsburgh, just as his late work did against South Florida.
As it pertains to Jafar Armstrong and his position, Jahmir Smith opting out of football for personal reasons makes it a bit more difficult to move Armstrong to receiver. But I’m in agreement with those who would like to see him do some things in the passing game from the slot. He’s not a major college running back. It can’t always be a breakdown of blocking when Armstrong gets thrown for a loss. He’s not decisive and explosive enough as a running back to avoid those lost-yardage plays.
You can’t go through a season with just three running backs, so Armstrong needs to stay involved in the backfield to some extent. But it’s time for the Irish to come up with some more creative ways to get Armstrong the football if he’s going to be on the field, otherwise, they are wasted snaps.
OFFENSIVE LINE WINS WAR IF NOT EVERY BATTLE
What an outstanding performance by Notre Dame’s offensive line to keep Ian Book clean and to provide enough push up front for those 3rd-and-1 conversions that kept the chains moving. Fifty carries for 115 yards isn’t very impressive on paper. But the unit showed great toughness in a strength-on-strength matchup. That was one of RG-Tommy Kraemer’s best performances against quality competition, both as a run-blocker and in pass protection.
Liam Eichenberg pretty much negated great pass-rusher Patrick Jones II, although Jones did have four solo tackles and two quarterback hurries. Center Jarrett Patterson had a rare bad shotgun snap inside the Pittsburgh five and had his hands full with the Panthers’ interior. (Freshman Calijah Kancey is already really good.) Robert Hainsey did a mostly good job on Rashad Weaver. Aaron Banks continues to show strong push from his left guard spot.
It’s difficult to keep Pittsburgh’s linebackers out of the backfield and away from the point of attack. While most of the statistics may not show it, a couple do, including 11-of-18 on third down for the game and 9-of-13 through three quarters when it was first-unit against first-unit.
Interesting comment by Tommy Rees relayed to ABC crew regarding Ian Book vs. Louisville: “His eyes and recognition against Louisville were the worst he’s seen.” Much improved against Pittsburgh…Also interesting to hear that Kelly didn’t buy Book’s reference to the wind factor against Louisville. Of course, Kelly passed the football in a hurricane at N.C. State…The timeout the Irish had to call waiting for the signal to come in was on the coaching staff, not Book…McShay correctly pointed out Book’s lack of touch on finesse throws. Sometimes it’s ridiculously bad…
Kelly mentioned Tommy Tremble was a little banged up. He had just one catch for one yard. But he continued to block like a madman, and instead of him making plays in the passing game, it was Skowronek, Mayer, Williams, Davis and McKinley. Does it really matter where the offensive production comes from as long as it comes?...Aaron Banks was headed to the sideline after Williams gained a first down. Where was he going? That’s what Brian Kelly wanted to know, too…Remember Notre Dame’s tempo offense under Chip Long? It doesn’t exist anymore. The Irish are now seventh in the country in time of possession at 34:11 per game after possessing it for 36:15 against Louisville and 40:59 versus Pittsburgh. The Irish are very deliberate getting to the line of scrimmage…
McShay said the only thing keeping Notre Dame from the level of Clemson and Alabama is the passing game. True statement and a pretty significant “only thing”…People get worked up about backup quarterbacks throwing more passes in the fourth quarter. Unless a QB can throw 50 times in a season, it’s not going to matter anyway. Playing full-time is a completely different set of circumstances. It can only be learned as the full-time guy. It’s not worth getting worked up about it…Not going to blame the coaches for Braden Lenzy’s re-injured hamstring. He was cleared to play. He has to get into the swing of things if he’s going to be effective. You can’t just turn it on and off. The injury is a bad break, but it’s part of the game…
Pittsburgh CB-Marquis Williams argued for offensive interference with the Ben Skowronek 73-yarder still going on and then signaled incomplete on the deep ball to Lenzy that fell incomplete with less 6:15 left in a 45-3 game. What a clown. Of course, HC-Pat Narduzzi was pleading with the officials for Nick McCloud’s interception to be ruled out of bounds while down 38-3. The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree. It’s why Pittsburgh’s longest winning streak since 2015 is four games. Pittsburgh’s emotions run like a rollercoaster, which is initiated by the head man himself.
and he committed to LSU
Who is next in line if Jenkins goes?
I believe it's the Provost, Exec. Vice President, and then @Thoros
Thoros of Beer too low
My guy Father Pete can't be too far down the line of succession
It's Fr. Dan or Fr. Gerry, imo. But the Faculty Senate has as much power as Beeds07 does over the thread title.
Can I vote for Tim Prister
Tolly? The hell?
Click to enlarge. It’s just a meme
When you are sending out an email about two students dieing, don't lead off with "awe shucks 2020 sucks..."
If you’ve ever wondered how many championship high school baseball games (in various competitions) Tim Prister coached in then you’re not gonna want to miss the latest II podcast
I laughed out loud as he listed them. So on brand
This reminds me.... with BC playing Clemson this week, it dawned on me that the possibility exists where Phil leads BC to a massive upset, killing the hype for next week while simultaneously setting ND/Kelly/Book up for a massive embarrassment. That would be a new kind of pain.
With Dante Vaughn gone who am I going to be yelling at? I think Brady gets torched at least once
Couldn’t help but look ahead Clemson did play 1 more game but this is just laughable
You’re gonna look like a fucking idiot when Book throws for 700+ and 9 TDs on Saturday
So likely Gameday is in SB on the 7th unless we shit the bed, then they are off to Augusta the 14th. That’s a hell of a week.
Holtz and Jimmy Dunne are praying for an upset
Quite laughable. Lawrence has 100% more interceptions than book. What a loser
It's amazing to think how mediocre Trevor Lawrence would be if he played for us
So green jerseys for Clemson?
I sure as fuck hope not
I doubt it. Just want fans to wear green. Similar to Michigan a couple years ago and usc last year, for example.
It was never all that cool to begin with but I have to imagine something might be lost with 80% of the stadium empty
yeah that doesn't seem worth the effort in a covid world.
I hope they do wear green personally. And with Kelly basically already admitting the entire season comes down to the Clemson game it wouldn't shock me if he's going all in and pulling out the green jerseys.