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  1. Good Effort! Good Game!

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    Book coming back would basically mean he will hold most ND records for the rest of forever. That's kinda funny
     
  2. Robdog_5

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    I watched 2 all 22 games of Cincy today. Fun defense and somewhat unorthodox. Like it but also don't know how well our personnel fits it right now. BK mentioned that was a consideration
     
  3. Beeds07

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    See you boys in 2022.
     
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  4. Rise

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    Sounds like there may be some serious staff overhaul:

    joseph to lsu or vandy
    Elston to Purdue
    Taylor to vandy as oc

    all been mentioned in the last 24 hours
     
  5. Juke Coolengody

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    If all of those play out, what’s the logic for not making a Hail Mary pitch to Urban?
     
  6. Killy Me Please

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    Elston go Pursue? What
     
  7. NilesIrish

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    Assuming as DC? That one doesn't make much sense.
     
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  8. Killy Me Please

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    Fucking auto correct
     
  9. Robdog_5

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    Elston to Purdue is uhhh weird.
     
  10. theregionsitter

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    ehh Elston probably makes $1.2-1.4 million- if Purdue says $2.0 and the defense is yours maybe that interests him. Its not a drastic move for his kids from South Bend to West Laf
     
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  11. beist

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    If Purdue wants to spend $2 million on a defensive coordinator they can probably do a lot better than Mike Elston.
     
  12. Beeds07

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    You are aware who they just fired, right? Not sure better is the point.
     
  13. Red Rover

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    Elston has always wanted his daughters to go to ND. Seems like a major draw for him to not give it a shot as a DC elsewhere

    A pay raise and full control of the defense only 2 hours away is probably his best move if he doesn't get the DC at ND
     
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  14. Robdog_5

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    Maybe so. Maybe he is just jonesing to call the plays but the guy has the safest and one of highest paying jobs on the roster. No idea why he would want to leave. Also surprised Purdue would drop a bunch of money on a guy who has little to no experience coordinating
     
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    Elston is also probably #1 on most likely to be retained if their was a coaching change

    dude is a Larry Johnson like figure at this point
     
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  16. Beeds07

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    CB Isaiah Rutherford (??) has entered the portal. Barely played in two years.
     
  17. Rise

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    Any Wisconsin fans on the board? Looks like we are going to be rolling with Coan per loy
     
  18. theregionsitter

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    lol I'd rather have Book back now.....
     
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  19. Rise

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    Lol just looked up highlights and the announcer in the second clip “there are a lot of questions about coans ability to throw downfield”.........
     
  20. Irush

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    If you ever asked yourself “what if Book couldn’t run?”, you’re about to find out
     
  21. Red Rover

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    Turrible. But if Clark can't go this year, we could easily take 2 grad transfer QBs imo
     
  22. IrishLAX2

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    I’d rather see Buchner or Pyne start than Coan
     
  23. nexus

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    and we thought Book was a Tommy Rees clone...
     
  24. Beeds07

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    Another noodle arm fucking QB. Jesus in starting to hate this program.
     
  25. a1ND

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    Loy's post on Coan

    Starting to look like Notre Dame could be the team to beat for Wisconsin graduate transfer QB Jack Coan.

    To make it clear: As long as they want him and push for him, I expect the Irish to win this battle.

    Rutgers and Tennessee have been mentioned to me about potential landing spots, but everything I’ve seen over the past week or two points toward the Irish winning the battle.

    Wouldn’t surprise me if something happens in the near future, one way or another. Notre Dame has things in its favor right now, so they simply will need to make a final decision on whether to take him or not.
     
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    AN UNSTOPPABLE FORCE
    With the national championship game against Ohio State remaining, No. 1 Alabama, which easily vanquished Notre Dame in the Rose Bowl, 31-14, is No. 1 in the country in touchdowns (77), overall points scored (578, 56 more than No. 2 BYU), completion percentage (75.8), yards per passing attempt (11.0), yards per play (7.84), passer rating (198.4) and third-down conversions (59.2 percent) while ranking in the top six in five other categories without trying to search for more.


    Notre Dame defensive coordinator Clark Lea – coaching his final game with the Irish before taking over as the head man at Vanderbilt -- couldn’t stop the Alabama offense from dissecting Notre Dame’s stop unit in the three most important drives of the game -- the first three.

    Alabama marched 79 yards on seven plays, 97 yards on five plays and 84 yards on six plays to take 14-0 and 21-7 leads. The Irish would not come closer than two touchdowns the rest of the way.

    Against mere mortals, Notre Dame would have had a chance to stay in and win the game. But when Ian Book threw an interception midway through the second quarter of a 21-7 game that could have and should have been complete to Michael Mayer had enough air been put under the throw, Notre Dame’s slim opportunity to compete for victory was eliminated.

    Alabama’s 2020 offense might be the most freakish unit in the history of college football. Or at least as good as LSU’s freakish 2019 offense. They pass it. They run it as much as they have to with the great Najee Harris toting the rock. Mac Jones-to-DeVonta Smith has connected 20 times for touchdowns in 12 games after three of their hook-ups against the Irish went for scores.

    The Crimson Tide gained 260 yards on 18 snaps to open the game. That’s an absurd 14.4 yards per snap. Of its first 12 snaps, 10 went for at least eight yards. Seven of them went for double-digit yardage. Ten of the first 18 snaps went for double-digit yardage.

    This is what Alabama 2020 does to teams, just as LSU did last season. That’s not making excuses for Notre Dame. The task was to stop the Crimson Tide and they failed when it mattered. That massive offensive line averaging 6-foot-5, 334 pounds usually wears teams down, although that wasn’t what actually happened in this case.

    After gaining 260 yards on 18 snaps to open the game, the Crimson Tide managed 187 yards on 37 snaps (5.0 yards) the rest of the way, which was a huge closing performance by Notre Dame’s defense. Clearly, Alabama took more time between snaps and didn’t stress the Irish downfield as they did in its opening salvo. But the Irish acquitted themselves well defensively over the final two-and-a-half quarters. For the first time in 24 games, Alabama did not reach the 35-point mark.

    HANGING TOUGH
    Regardless the specific offensive approach employed by Alabama offensive coordinator Steve Sarkisian in its final five possessions of the game, Nick Saban and the Alabama offense are never satisfied, and in the end, Lea’s last hurrah with the Irish limited Alabama to 18 points less than its scoring average and more than 100 yards under its per-game average.

    Excluding the kneel-down at the end of the first half, Alabama’s last five possessions were 1) nine plays, 21 yards, punt; 2) eight plays, 29 yards, punt; 3) five plays, 62 yards, touchdown; 4) 10 plays, 47 yards, field goal; and 5) five plays, 20 yards, punt.

    The level of physicality at nose tackle/tackle, led by Kurt Hinish, Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa, Jayson Ademilola, Howard Cross III, Rylie Mills and Jacob Lacey, was impressive. Cross had a big hit on Harris. Ademilola had a pass broken up at the line of scrimmage and drew a holding penalty against center Chris Owens. Mills flat-out beat left guard Deonte Brown to the punch and pressured Mac Jones. Ademilola and end Ade Ogundeji combined for Notre Dame’s only sack.

    It was much rougher sledding for Notre Dame’s defensive ends. Ogundeji flashed at times, but Daelin Hayes was overwhelmed in his final appearance in a Notre Dame uniform. Most of the time, left tackle Alex Leatherwood engulfed Hayes so badly that you couldn’t see the No. 9 on Hayes’ chest. Hayes’ name did not even appear on the stat sheet.

    The Irish showed that they belonged on the field with Alabama physically. But those three explosive drives to open the game – 18 snaps, 260 yards, just 7:08 time elapsed – set a tone that could not be overcome. Throw in Alabama’s fourth touchdown drive – which was five plays, 62 yards and 2:29 elapsed – and it meant that Alabama had 322 yards on 23 snaps (14.6 yards per snap on touchdown drives) that accounted for 28 points in just 9:37.

    After Harris’ 53-yard first half run led the Tide to 97 yards rushing on 12 carries in the first half (8.1-yard average), Alabama managed just 43 yards on 13 carries (3.3) in the second half. In fact, other than the 53-yard run, Alabama had 24 carries for 87 yards (3.6). The 140 yards rushing by Alabama was its lowest rushing output of its last 10 games.

    “They had a good plan against us,” Nick Saban said. “I think Brian Kelly is a great coach. His entire staff deserves a lot of credit for the plan they put together against us, as well as the things they’ve done all season long to get there.

    “We didn’t run the ball every effectively in the second half. We wanted to try to take the air out of it at the end of the game and didn’t have much success. They had the ball for almost the entire last eight minutes of the game.

    “Their players really play hard. They play with great discipline. They did a good job of stopping the run in the second half.”

    A case of the head coach tossing bouquets after an easy victory? There’s certainly some of that involved. But it was not complete hyperbole on Saban’s part. The Irish defense continued to battle when the college football world already knew the Crimson Tide would advance to the championship game. In fact, the second defensive line unit played as well as the first.

    ARTISTRY IN MOTION
    Of even greater concern than stopping Najee Harris – Harris averaged 53 yards on one carry and 5.2 on his other 14 carries for 78 yards – was the quick-strike ability of Mac Jones-to-DeVonta Smith, who shredded the Irish with seven connections for 130 yards (18.5) and three touchdowns.

    Most impressive about Alabama’s passing attack, in addition to the otherworldly talent of Smith, is the choreographed route concepts that we described in the mid-week In The Film Room, which detailed the Crimson Tide’s offensive talent. It truly is, at times, artistry in motion.

    Two of Smith’s three touchdowns in particular display the brilliant design of the Alabama passing game with the third exemplifying the diamond-cutter’s precision of Jones-to-Smith.

    Let’s start with the touchdown pass that didn’t go to Smith – the 12-yarder to the corner of the end zone to tight end Jahleel Billingsley. When the Irish defense adjusted to its left to double-team Smith, Billingsley popped out from underneath Smith and easily scampered open to his left as Buck linebacker Marist Liufau reacted too late for the easy score. The play was designed to garner Notre Dame’s attention to one side – it worked perfectly -- before Billingsley sprinted against the flow of the defense with a linebacker in coverage.

    Now to Smith’s touchdowns. The first one was too easy. Two receivers left, two defenders, the pass underneath to Smith and a freshman defender (Clarence Lewis) still caught up in the emotions of playing Alabama in the playoffs. Lewis didn’t move his feet and Smith easily scampered by him with wideout John Metchie III blocking Nick McCloud downfield for the untouched score.

    Smith’s second score exemplified what play-action can do to a linebacker corps. When Alabama pulled their tight end and guard from right to left, it signaled running play. Liufau, Drew White and Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah all bit to stop a Harris run. Smith got a free release from the slot inside. Once he caught it, it was an easy 34-yard score with Shaun Crawford getting a late helmet on Smith’s lower back/hip to stun him despite the touchdown.

    Smith’s third touchdown was another example of the choreography and timing of the Alabama passing game. From the Irish seven-yard line, Smith, aligned to the right, pushed hard off the line of scrimmage against McCloud. His cut to the pylon was not at a 90-degree angle, but a sharper 75-to-80 degree angle.

    The route was perfect, the pass was perfect and the timing was so perfect that Smith’s foot hit within an inch or two of the white stripe, right at the spot in front of the pylon. God himself (forgive me, Lord) could not have stopped the execution of that play.

    What an amazing statistical revelation after Smith finally dropped a pass. Adding in the Notre Dame game, Smith has been targeted 131 times this season. He’s caught 106 of them (80.9 percent) with 20 touchdowns. That’s a touchdown every 5.3 receptions. That’s a touchdown every 6.5 targets. He has just three drops the entire season.

    Another example of Alabama’s well-designed passing game was a 40-yard pass to Metchie. This was a case of the perfect call against a defensive shift that backfired against the Irish. Kyle Hamilton shifted up to his left to either take away the flat route or a run with Harris. This caused Crawford to begin floating in space to compensate for Hamilton’s absence on the back end. Lewis immediately was forced to trail Metchie. Crawford couldn’t recover quickly enough and in an instant, Metchie was running free through the Irish secondary.

    THE PROBLEMATIC PASS DEFENSE
    It was said in the television broadcast that Clark Lea mentioned that while he wouldn’t consider Notre Dame’s cornerbacks to be a weakness, it would be difficult to include them among the Irish strengths when you consider that Clarence Lewis is a true freshman and that grad-transfer Nick McCloud had been in the system for one season without the benefit of spring drills due to the pandemic.

    The Irish needed TaRiq Bracy to use the experience gained from his first two seasons in the program to improve as a starter and allow Lewis to fill in and gain his footing as the third cornerback in the equation. But Bracy struggled, McCloud battled a shoulder issue from the outset of the season, and Lewis showed growing pains while still flashing the ability to turn into a solid-to-good cornerback in the future.

    Then there was the courageous Shaun Crawford, who’s too small to be a safety, but sacrificed life and limb every time he stepped on the field for the Irish from 2015-20. When healthy – before two ACLs and an Achilles injury – Crawford was pegged as a nickel. Not a cornerback per se and definitely not a safety. A cornerback.

    His willingness to be physical every time he was on the field played a big role in Notre Dame’s 10-0 regular season. His shortcomings as a safety were exposed by Clemson and Alabama, although once again, he tied for the Irish game-high in tackles with nine and finished tied for fourth on the team in tackles with 57 – just six behind team-leader Kyle Hamilton and tied for third with linebacker Drew White.

    Now Crawford and McCloud are gone. The Irish are bringing in a bunch of defensive backs in the freshman class and there is a handful from the 2020 freshman class. Notre Dame has to look to the free-agent market (grad transfers) to provide a veteran flavor to the secondary beyond Hamilton.

    There are no shortcuts to a stable Irish secondary in 2021. Whoever lands the defensive coordinator’s job will have to find answers in the secondary first and foremost while tending to the second most pressing need – a pass rush from the defensive end position.

    DREW WHITE: UPON THIS ROCK…
    …Notre Dame’s 2021 linebacker corps will be built. White played one of the best games of any Irish defensive player against Alabama with nine tackles and a willingness to throw his body around the football field to make plays for the Irish.

    He’s certainly doesn’t cut an imposing figure on the hoof. At 6-foot-0¼, 227 pounds, White hardly fits the dimensions of “first guy off the bus” candidates. But the kid plays hard, plays physical and might be the smartest guy on the football field due to his diagnostic skills and well-studied knowledge of the opposing defense.

    Can’t say enough good things about White’s maximization of his skillset.

    And yet White also is an example of why Notre Dame is a step behind Alabama, Clemson and Ohio State. Generally speaking, three-star prospects are distinguished from four-star prospects in stature, not necessarily football-playing ability. I would put White’s football IQ and football-playing ability with anyone the Irish face. But all things being equal when you get to playoff level, a 6-foot-0½, 227-pound Mike linebacker is not ideal.

    White is not the best example to exemplify the three-star argument because he’s ultra-productive. He is the Ian Book of the defense. Both were/are incredibly productive. But too many overachievers, too many three-star players lacking the dimensions on the train leading to the NFL has contributed to the Irish coming up short on the grandest stage.

    Again, White is not the best example of that because next season, he’ll be a captain and he’ll direct the defense from the middle of the field. He is a significant key figure returning on a defense that has some holes to fill.

    QUICK-HITTERS: DEFENSE/SPECIAL TEAMS
    We’ll continue to talk about Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah as we now turn our attention to the NFL draft. But a quick shout-out following his last game in an Irish uniform to the great Wu, who left everything on the field in AT&T Stadium. He is deserving of every post-season accolade, as well as the Butkus Award…To the Alabama fan holding up the “Rudy was offsides” sign at the game. Dude, you’re like 27 years late to the party...Didn’t mention Justin Ademilola in the defensive line talk above. But I, for one, am greatly looking forward to his emergence in the starting lineup at big end the next two seasons. He’s been around the football since his freshman year in 2018. He’s going to be a warrior for the Irish. Let’s see how well he can rush the passer because he has a knack for always being around the football…

    Not much call for a nickel defense when Alabama doesn’t need third down. Just 10 (six converted) for the game. Bo Bauer didn’t see much action against the Tide…What was the thinking of Brian Kelly when he called for his punt team on 4th-and-8 with 3:35 left at the Irish 47? You’re down by 24 points. Was he thinking about how the final score would look? The Irish eventually went for it after a timeout and converted on a 13-yard pass to Avery Davis. That kept the drive alive and allowed for a 14-play, 80-yard touchdown drive. It’s neither here nor there in the final outcome of the game, but the optics looked like a face-saving decision on the scoreboard…Let the record show, DeVonta Smith was another opposing offensive player that knew he had been in a physical game with Notre Dame. The Irish banged him around a couple times and he showed the effects by gingerly hobbling around. He hammered Notre Dame first, but he got drilled a few times…

    Talk about “a chip on your shoulder” (see In The Film Room…Offense), Tuscaloosa native Jay Bramblett averaged 47.2 yards per his four punts against his hometown Crimson Tide, including three 50-yarders. That represented 30 percent (3-of-10) of his 50-yard punts in 12 games…In a game like this, you need a break, such as the punt by Bramblett inside the five that nearly clipped the leg of an Alabama return-team player. That would have given the ball to the Irish somewhere inside the Alabama 10 with Notre Dame trailing, 7-0. Five plays and 97 yards later, it was 14-0 Tide…Obviously, Jonathan Doerer lost his mojo over the final five games of the season when he converted just 4-of-9 field goals. But his return remains significant after converting 11-of-14 to open the season, including 4-of-5 in the victory over No. 1 Clemson with 44- and 45-yarders. He’ll get his mojo back…Doerer’s onside kick with less than a minute remaining was so good, even DeVonta Smith couldn’t come up with it.

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  27. a1ND

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    Loy on Freeman

    With its 2020-21 football season now in the books, Notre Dame is searching for a new defensive coordinator. Clark Lea has left to become the new head coach at Vanderbilt, so the next leader of the defense has some pretty big shoes to fill.

    That said, there is a priority target for Fighting Irish head football coach Brian Kelly and we're told an important call with that coveted candidate will take place on Monday.

    According to sources, Irish Illustrated and 247Sports have learned that Notre Dame is set to have a Zoom call Monday with Cincinnati defensive coordinator Marcus Freeman, arguably the most coveted assistant coach in all of college football. If all goes well, Freeman could very well make his way to Notre Dame for an in-person interview regarding the open position in South Bend in the coming days. This is a big week for both parties.

    From what we've gathered, and as we previously reported, LSU remains very involved here as well and is expected to have the same contact with Freeman this week as Notre Dame. While programs continue to make a run at him including Auburn, Texas and others, there is still a strong belief Cincinnati is the favorite to keep him at this point. Freeman loves it at Cincinnati and is extremely close with Bearcats head coach Luke Fickell. The expectation is he'll simply make the best decision for his future, which could very well potentially keep him locked in with his current position. We'll see if Notre Dame can get a win here with potentially its top candidate.

    Freeman has done a great job leading the Bearcats defense over the years, and especially this season. He was named a Broyles Award finalist, which goes to the nation’s top assistant coach, and was 247Sports’ Defensive Coordinator of the Year this season.

    As noted in our story over the weekend, Notre Dame landing arguably the hottest name among coordinators this offseason would be a big deal. To learn more about that, Irish Illustrated touched base with Bearcat Journal's Chad Brendel, the owner of 247Sports' Cincinnati site, to get his take on Freeman.

    "As an Xs and Os guy, Marcus Freeman is as good as anyone I’ve ever covered on the defensive side of the ball. Over the past 4 years at Cincinnati he’s shown a 4-3 base that has morphed into more of a 3-3-5 as an adjustment to the pass happy schemes in the AAC," said Brendel. "He’s also broken out a 4-4 to slow down Navy and then a Bear 5 man front this year against Army when they were expecting the 4-4 he showed Navy. He isn’t married to any specific system, and he recruits in kind with versatile players than can slide up and down a position or two as they develop and find a role.

    "His leadership and recruiting skills go hand in hand," Brendel continued. "At only 34 years old, it wasn’t long ago that he was a star LB at Ohio State, and more than anything on both fronts he is completely honest with players, recruits and parents. Guys always know exactly where they stand, and exactly what they need to do to fit what he’s looking for on game day and as a recruiter. That allows him to be a guy that can finish, both on the field on game day and delivering commitments for prospects he has a clear plan for from the day they arrive on campus.

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    "I’m sure a lot of this comes off as over the top, but you have to consider this is a guy that took over one of the worst defensive units in the country four years ago and turned them into one of the elite units in the nation at all three levels," Brendel added. "And did so with mostly under the radar 3 star prospects that he helped turn into not only All Conference guys, but several into All Americans and NFL Draft prospects. It’s almost impossible to have his resume at 34 years old, but he’s done it at Cincinnati with ease."

    Freeman is a graduate of Wayne high school in Huber Heights, Ohio. He went on to play at Ohio State and graduated in 2007. He was a four-year letter winner for the Buckeyes from 2004-08. He was a graduate assistant at Ohio State in 2010 before coaching linebackers at Kent State from 2011-12. He left to become the linebackers coach for four years at Purdue. He was also the co-defensive coordinator in 2015-16. In 2017, Freeman became the defensive coordinator and linebackers coach at Cincinnati and has been there ever since.
     
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  28. Beeds07

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    He better be in for depth. If you're going to bring in QBs instead of developing, at least try to get talented ones.
     
  29. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    Book 2.0 but worse
     
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  30. Beeds07

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    Book is Patrick Mahomes compared to this guy
     
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    i like what was mentioned earlier, bring in 2 grad transfer QBs this year and let them compete. I just don't see any way that Buchner is ready next year w/ him having only played 1 year of HS in a weak conference
     
  32. Dr. Richard Cranium

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    I'd rather take a guy with big tools and other problem and see if they can be fixed rather than having 5 versions of the same guy hoping one of them is best.

    Like try to find Ben Roethlisberger instead of Tommy Rees 3.0
     
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  33. Rise

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    Big fuckup not having jurk still around
     
  34. Rise

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    For better or worse I think Kelly is convinced that a ball control grind it out offense is the only way to compete for championships so he wants a guy who doesn’t throw picks and can make the easy throws
     
  35. Beeds07

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    Hasn't happened for three years. Why start now?
     
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  36. NDfanPSUgrad

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    What job is Fickell waiting for? Have to think he’ll make a big jump soon and with that Freeman gets a bump as well or takes over cincy.
     
  37. Wicket

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    penn state after franklin takes usc or osu when day goes to the nfl would be my guess
     
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  38. NilesIrish

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    Coan better be a depth move. Shit bring back Book too. Let em all fight.
     
  39. Dillingham

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    give me a grad transfer from Oklahoma State or something -- I'd kill for a 400 yard 4 TD, 2 INT guy just to make games more fun to watch.
     
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    ABC - Anyone But Coan
     
  41. Beeds07

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    Shit, give me a guy who can throw a back shoulder, overthrow a 50 yard pass or throws to a catch and run spot.

    Doesn't seem like too much to ask...
     
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    my thoughts on the game several days later:

    I thought the oline played so well, i'd legit put them on par with the Bama oline outside of the 1 QB sack that knocked Book out of the game for a few plays (I think that one was Correll's fault). Really both olines played ridiculously well but Bama's just looks better because they have are better at QB, RB, WR than ND (and virtually everyone in CFB). I tip my hat to Jeff Quinn because he developed everyone single one of those guys the last 3 years

    Book played scared, that backwards pass on the first series was just so so bad and i knew it was over that point. You just can't make that throw

    Kyren and Mayer are going to be monsters next year. Really hope Tremble comes back but i can understand why he would go out this year if he got a good draft grade which O'Malley says he did which means it's a top 3 round grade

    Dline held there own and even got some push but Mac Jones was pretty impressive escaping the pocket and making plays still. I was pretty impressed by his play

    Our CBs were clearly outmanned and i get there is a talent gap there, but the reality is that NO ONE was stopping Devonta Smith and no one has all year including the top CBs at UF and UGA. He did to ND what he's done to everyone else all season and he's going to destroy Shaun Wade too (another 5* CB) even though he hasn't been near as good this season

    Our WRs were what they were all year and we are far behind. Omalley has been saying it all season, if ND had just 1 top level WR this year (like claypool), this offense would be so so good. McKinley has been good but he just doesn't scare teams. Will Fuller on this team would have opened up so much of the Running game and TE game because he's a vertical threat and screen guy every single snap. Now that i say his name, Devonta smith reminds me a bit of Will fuller but with better hands and route running. Granted, Book will still have to throw it downfield to him, but i digress

    I do have hope that these last 2 WR recruiting classes can take our team to the next level with Buchner, especially in 2022 and 2023. Mayer in 2022 especially is going to be All American as long as someone can get him the ball. Colzie and Jordan Johnson on the outside and Styles/Watts in the slot with Mayer at TE and a Junior Chris Tyree and that's elite skill talent
     
  43. Killy Me Please

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    Didn't know he got fired already. What happened to him. Dudes career is shot.
     
  44. Beeds07

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    I got Disco Bob at Nebraska confused. Thought he was at Purdue.
     
  45. Beeds07

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    This is 100% Tommy Rees or Ian Book in a Wisconsin uniform.

     
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  46. laxjoe

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    He was just fired from Purdue
     
  47. Beeds07

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    :facepalm:

    I'm an idiot
     
  48. repoocs

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    You know what? Reading the Coan update and subsequent commentary from you gents, and A1ND's game thoughts, I just want a QB who isn't scared in big games, and one who sees the field better when pressured.

    I will defend Book. I think he developed to the best of his ability, he was creative with his mobility, he protected the ball very well over the past couple years, and he was a strong respected leader. He deserves a lot of credit for this run of good seasons.

    It's weird to say a kid is both tough as a player but scared in the pocket, but I think it fits here. Maybe it wasn't fear as much as "antsy" if that makes sense. He seemed to get overly hyped for big games, which I think affected his patience and focus, which can look a lot like fear.

    Now, physical traits aside, I want to see a QB who makes whatever throws he is capable of making consistently, regardless of how bright the lights are. Sure, we want and could use a Trevor Lawrence and they should recruit with the goal to get one each year. But the OL played well enough Friday to give their QB a chance, and he didn't come through. If even an accurate game manager could play to his best in that situation, along with our OL, TEs and running backs, it would go a long way toward making those games more realistic for us.
     
  49. Beeds07

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    I just want to see the phrase "arm talent" associated with an ND QB before I die. Tired of all these dudes with moxie.
     
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  50. a1ND

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    man, why can't there be a Russell Wilson in the Transfer Portal this year?

    it sounds like the guy ND is really waiting for to see if he hits the transfer portal is Jack Sears from Boise (current backup and they are getting a new head coach)...he might be a guy that could take ND up a level
     
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