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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Thoros of Beer, Feb 3, 2016.
Curious about love tomorrow. Thusfar a good combine for the irish
If Boykin ran a 4.42 I think love should run close to 4.45-4.5
But at this point everybody is running crazy times so I don’t know how it really affects the draft
I have a Balis boner. Lock that dude down.
ND men's basketball has careened off a cliff. They are embarrassingly awful. Youth is part of the excuse but doesn't tell the whole tale. Without major developmental strides and an infusion of athleticism via the grad transfer route, they are going to get their asses kicked next year as well. Brey has seemingly pulled a Brian Kelly and absolutely shit the bed just after some extremely successful years.
Someone please convince me otherwise. What am I missing?
Nothing IMO. Think you nailed it.
It is going to take a mountain of development over the summer for this team just to be on the bubble next year. I see a lot of similarities between BK and Brey getting complacent and hiring their band of buddies (in Brey’s case former players) after success
Still can’t believe it appears Brey is going to punt on this year’s recruiting class, he has two scholarships to give I believe
How he doesn’t believe that the team needs help is beyond me
Oh God, this is how it starts
Here is the rest of Sampson
Here's a fun article from the athletic that perfectly ranks the top 25 coaches in order with no room for debate whatsoever.
I’ve been writing this column off and on for the past several years, and it was always a given who would be No. 1 and 2 — Nick Saban and Urban Meyer.
Given No. 2 is no longer an active coach, I knew there’d be at least one shakeup in the 2019 edition. But of course, it was also fairly obvious who would take Meyer’s place (rhymes with “skinny.”) What quickly became much more difficult was rounding out the top five; those two have so thoroughly separated themselves from the other 128 candidates that whomever I ranked No. 3 or No. 4 almost felt unworthy.
As always, this list is not meant to be a career achievement ranking. It is strongly weighted by recent performance, though I try hard not to let a one-year blip last season — good or bad — override everything else about a coach’s tenure.
1a) Nick Saban, Alabama. One blowout loss does not drastically change my opinion about a six-time national championship coach who has largely towered over the sport for more than a decade. Consider: Alabama has not won fewer than 13 games in a season since 2014, and at least 11 every year since 2010.
1b) Dabo Swinney, Clemson. Saban has the longer track record, but it’s hard to say these two aren’t equals right now. They hold the same 55-4 record since 2015, have split the past four national titles and split their four meetings over that same time span. With Meyer’s retirement, Swinney is also the only other active coach with multiple national title rings.
3. Chris Petersen, Washington. Petersen’s Boise State teams were so wildly successful (92-12, two Fiesta Bowl wins) that it’s caused some to call his Washington tenure disappointing. Ridiculous. The Huskies — who averaged seven wins a year under predecessor Steve Sarkisian — have gone 32-9 the past three seasons, with a CFP berth and Rose Bowl trip.
4. Lincoln Riley, Oklahoma. Two years, two Playoff berths and two Heisman Trophy winners. Riley is arguably the foremost offensive mind in all of college football today, with his Kyler Murray-led 2018 unit averaging a staggering 8.60 yards per play — nearly a full yard more than No. 2 Alabama (7.76). Now, about that defense …
5. Brian Kelly, Notre Dame. There were two giant whiffs in my 2018 rankings — including Bobby Petrino and excluding Kelly. In fairness, at the time, he was a year removed from going 4-8, but clearly his reinvention following that 2016 debacle has paid off. Kelly, who already had two undefeated regular seasons on his résumé, led the Irish to another one last season.
6. Kirby Smart, Georgia. Too soon? I don’t think so. The guy came as close as humanly possible to winning the national championship two years ago. The Dawgs followed up that breakthrough 13-2 season with an 11-3 mark. Smart is the first coach in a decade to recruit on the same level as his mentor, Saban. Now, if he would just do a little work on his fake punt calls.
(Stephen Lew / USA TODAY Sports)
7. Jimbo Fisher, Texas A&M. Time will tell if Jimbo can take A&M to uncharted heights, but in his debut season, the 9-4 Aggies took eventual national champ Clemson to the wire and beat 10-win teams LSU and Kentucky. Clearly, something went wrong at the end of his Florida State tenure, but recruiting is off to a hot start in College Station.
8. Mike Leach, Washington State. Media picked the Cougars to finish fifth in the Pac-12 North last season. Instead, Leach plugged in grad transfer QB Gardner Minshew and led Washington State to its first 11-win season. Leach’s 37 victories over the past four years also mark the winningest run in school history. However, Petersen/Washington remain a tormentor.
9. Gary Patterson, TCU. Patterson drops out of my top five for the first time since … ever? … following a second .500 regular season in the past three years. But he’s also the same coach who has posted three 11-plus win seasons since 2014. And though the Horned Frogs struggled on offense last season, they still led the Big 12 in defense for the third time in five years.
10. David Shaw, Stanford. The Cardinal are now a couple of years removed from their peak run of double-digit win seasons (six in seven years from 2010-16) and three Pac-12 titles. But it’s Shaw who’s raised the bar so high that last year’s 9-4 record was considered a disappointment. On the whole, Stanford continues to perform well above its historical norm.
11. Jeff Monken, Army. It’s truly remarkable the transformation that’s taken place in West Point under Monken. After posting just one winning season from 1997-2015, the Knights have gone 8-5, 10-3 and 11-2, with three consecutive wins against rival Navy. Last season, Monken’s team took Oklahoma to overtime and put up 70 points on Houston in its bowl game. Incredible.
(Danny Wild / USA TODAY Sports)
12. Bill Clark, UAB. Clark’s program got shut down for two years. He had to rebuild the roster from scratch. He did it so well that in their first year back, the Blazers notched their most wins (8) in two decades. They then followed that up winning 11 games and a conference championship, earning Clark the 2018 Eddie Robinson Coach of the Year award.
13. Dan Mullen, Florida. Mullen constantly overachieved during his nine-year tenure at Mississippi State, but there were plenty of critics still not impressed. So he went to Florida, where, in his first season, the Gators improved from 4-7 to 10-3. Mullen’s latest QB protégé, Feleipe Franks, improved his passer rating by 30 points (113.3 to 143.4).
14. Mark Dantonio, Michigan State. Since posting 11+ wins five times in six seasons from 2010-15, Dantonio’s program has regressed. After rebounding from 3-9 in 2016 to go 10-3 the next year, Michigan State endured a disappointing 7-6 campaign in 2018. He’s still had a heck of a decade, but I could no longer justify ranking him in the top 10.
15. James Franklin, Penn State. After consecutive 11-win seasons in 2016 and ’17, a young Nittany Lions team slipped to 9-4 last season. But Franklin continues to stockpile talent. His teams have played toe-to-toe with Ohio State the past three seasons, but an embarrassing performance at Michigan last season served as a reminder he’s still got work to do.
16. Tom Herman, Texas. In Year 2 at Texas, Herman led the ’Horns to the Big 12 title game, their first 10-win season since 2009 and a Sugar Bowl upset of Georgia. This on the heels of his two-year tenure at Houston, where the Cougars toppled the likes of Florida State and Oklahoma. The next step for Herman needs to be turning Texas into a Playoff contender.
17. Pat Fitzgerald, Northwestern. The Wildcats achieved another milestone in Fitzgerald’s 12th season, winning their first division title behind an 8-1 Big Ten record. Since 2015, Northwestern has gone 26-9 in conference play, by far the best four-year stretch in school history. And a program that had previously won two bowl games prior to 2016 has now won three in a row.
18. Mike Gundy, Oklahoma State. After three consecutive 10-win campaigns, Oklahoma State struggled through a 7-6 rebuilding season in 2018. But Gundy’s program has still achieved six double-digit win seasons this decade after just three its entire history before that. And he’s done it with an innovative offense that’s spanned multiple coordinators.
19. Dino Babers, Syracuse. Dino does it again. After previously winning big quickly at Eastern Illinois and Bowling Green, Babers in his third season at Syracuse produced the school’s first 10-win season in 17 years. The Orange ranked 11th nationally in scoring offense. A year after upsetting Clemson, they nearly derailed the Tigers’ 2018 national title run.
(Rich Barnes / USA TODAY Sports)
20. David Cutcliffe, Duke. It’s somehow become standard practice for Duke to make bowl games now. Last season, it won eight games for the fourth time in six years. The noted QB guru mentored his latest protégé, Daniel Jones, into a projected first-rounder. Mind you, the Devils haven’t finished above .500 in the ACC since 2014. But they used to go 1-7 every year.
21. Matt Campbell, Iowa State. Campbell continues to elevate the formerly irrelevant Cyclones into a legit Big 12 threat. Iowa State went 6-3 in the conference last season behind a true freshman quarterback (Brock Purdy). The Cyclones posted consecutive eight-win seasons for the first time since 1978. My guess is Campbell will only climb higher on this list.
22. Jeff Brohm, Purdue. Brohm cracks this list for the first time after leading Purdue — 9-39 in the four seasons prior to his arrival — to back-to-back bowl games. Most memorably, the Boilers ran roughshod over then sixth-ranked Ohio State in a primetime showcase. And earlier this month he signed a Top 25 recruiting class, previously unheard of for Purdue.
23. Kyle Whittingham, Utah. Whittingham just led Utah to its fourth nine-plus win season in the past five years and its first Pac-12 South title. The Utes can be counted on annually to produce a physical, stingy defense. Utah fans have admittedly grown frustrated that the program hasn’t had that breakthrough New Year’s Six-type season since moving up to Power 5.
24. Mark Stoops, Kentucky. It took six years, but Stoops gradually and steadily built up the program from 2-10 to 5-7 to 7-6 to last year’s historic 10-win campaign. The Wildcats’ No. 12 ranking in the final AP poll was their highest in 41 years. And the Wildcats appear to be built to stay.
25a) Scott Frost, Nebraska. Frost debuted on this last at No. 25 last year. One 4-8 Nebraska season later … nothing’s really changed. We knew the first season would be rough. He’s still just two years removed from completing UCF’s turnaround from 0-12 to 13-0. We’ll see if the Huskers take a similar Year 2 jump under Frost.
25b) Chip Kelly, UCLA. Like his protégé Frost, Kelly’s 4-8 debut season at UCLA was entirely expected. Unlike Frost, though, it’s becoming harder to justify Kelly’s inclusion given his most “recent” college accomplishments were in 2012 (the last of an incredible 46-7 four-year run at Oregon).
Kelly to low. He should be 1c.
Honestly I'm just waiting until someone else starts a thread on this solely to make fun of Harbaugh not being on it.
These lists are wayyyyyyyyyyyy too fluid from year to year. Which is why they always suck.
Missed that. That'll be fun I kind of want to @ Dbl.
I just had my first Paczki. What the hell have I been doing for 34 years?
What kind? What would you compare it to?
Bavarian, and an extremely good custard/cream donut.
The champagne of pastry fillings. Chocolate frosted?
I see fruit packzi's at meijer all the time. Not sure I've ever heard of a Bavarian, but I know nothing about packzis so it makes sense.
I got 3 types, one covered in powdered sugar, one in a sugar type glaze, and the one I ate which was some sort of sugar cover that I think had a dash of cinnamon. Martins in Niles was selling those thing like crazy.
Team third triumvirate!
Midweek recruiting rundown
Sinclair’s Mid-Week Recruiting Rundown
VIP ByKEVIN SINCLAIR 81 minutes ago
(Photo: Matt Cashore, 247Sports)
We expected a loaded visitor list to surface through March and April. In reality, Notre Dame staff has exceeded those high expectations.
In the coming weeks, top prospects will hit South Bend to attend spring practices while meeting with staff and getting a taste of the Fighting Irish. Others will take official visits in early April while some will attend the Blue-Gold Game on April 13.
If you collaborate the entire visitor list – mind you, this review includes only the visits we’ve confirmed so far while many others are sure to surface – it’s clear that the Irish will lure a plethora of exciting talent at key position groups and categories.
In this week’s Rundown, I’ll run through each position group in which top talent will visit South Bend over the next four to five weeks.
Below, eight of the 14 four-star visitors rank in the Top 200, six of which list in the Top 100.
Visitors: Jordan Johnson (Apr. 5-6), Jalen McMillan (Apr. 13), Michael Redding III (Mar. 28) , Xavier Watts (Apr. 10)
We often talk about Notre Dame’s top three wide receiver prospects and within this list, two from that group will hit South Bend soon.
Both ranked in the Top 50, Jordan Johnson has multiple South Bend trips under his belt before he arrives on the weekend of April 5 – 7 for his official visit, a week prior to Jalen McMillan taking his first Notre Dame visit during the Blue-Gold game.
Surely, this is an exciting development.
One of the most quickly ascending wide receivers in the South, Michael Redding III will be in South Bend – one of many visits he has lined up – to get his first look at the Irish.
Redding III has expressed an interest in Notre Dame, an athlete who checked into The Opening Regional in Orlando recently at 6-foot-1, 192-pounds before knocking out an impressive 109.44 SPARQ score including a 4.56 in the 40-yard dash and a spectacular 41.4-inch vertical.
In Xavier Watts, Notre Dame being a player for his pledge was a notion put forward by both Watts himself and sources close to him from the outset. He enjoyed his Sept. 29 visit (Stanford game) at Notre Dame a great deal and should take more than one trip to South Bend this off-season.
Visitors: Chris Tyree (Mar. 23-24) , DeaMonte Trayanum (Mar. 30)
One of the most impactful notes that has surfaced lately is the two visits set for five-star running back Chris Tyree – arguably the No. 1 overall prospect for Notre Dame in the 2020 class.
Simply put, Tyree is a perfect fit for the Irish at the position of greatest need in this cycle. With lots of weight on his shoulders, Lance Taylor is working overtime to add this dynamic back who is being pressed by Alabama, Penn State, Oklahoma, and others.
Taylor has also garnered interest from running backs who weren’t sizing up the Irish prior to his hire. One of those backs is DeaMonte Trayanum, an appealing athlete with a key combination of both dynamic speed and the size/power to run tough between the hashes.
The Irish are sure to host several running backs in the coming months but these two are among the most talented.
Visitors: Zak Zinter (Mar. 22), Jimmy Christ (Apr. 6), Roger Rosengarten (Mar. 25-26), Andrew Gentry (Apr. 5)
Could Notre Dame put together another O-line class of four four-stars?
First, we don’t know whether Jeff Quinn will be afforded the scholarship space to add as many as four total offensive linemen. Even so, a quality four-star quartet is lined up to visit Notre Dame starting with a pair of Top 100 linemen in Colorado standouts Andrew Gentry and Roger Rosengarten.
When you factor in one of Notre Dame’s top overall prospects in the ultra-athletic Jimmy Christ also visiting soon, Quinn is in great shape with three exciting tackle recruits visiting early – all three listing in the 6-7 to 6-8 range.
Looking for premium talent with flexibility to play multiple spots along the offensive line, hosting Zak Zinter – a four-star recruit who fits that profile – on March 22 is an excellent advantage for the Irish.
Zinter has a keen sense of what Notre Dame offers and while he rates as an elite academic prospect, the Irish should be a major player for his pledge.
Visitors: Xavier Carlton (late-March), Ben Yurosek (March 29-30), Cullen Coleman (Mar. 30)
Three prospects I would want on my football team, Notre Dame will host two impressive defensive ends out of California along with one of the most intriguing prospects on the board from an athletic standpoint in Cullen Coleman – each hitting South Bend in late-March.
With more strong-side ends than drop ends currently on the board, it’s important the Irish gain traction with Yurosek and Coleman. And from everything I’ve heard in speaking with the head coaches of both, I’d be surprised if Notre Dame wasn’t within a hypothetical top two or three following their visits.
Carlton’s visit is one of the more long anticipated in this entire review – a 6-foot-7, 250-pounder who (to use an overused phrase) checks all the boxes for the Irish. Coming from a private Christian school and excellent family, Notre Dame could make a big move with the Californian during his visit.
Visitors: Jalen Kimber (Apr. 5-6), Ryan Watts (Apr. 5-6), Dontae Manning (Apr. 13), Donovan Clark (Mar. 20), Kasen Kinchen (Mar. 20)
Talk about a blockbuster list of cornerbacks.
Although Jalen Kimber moved up in the rankings recently, it wasn’t enough. His SPARQ score on the weekend was the highest at The Opening Regional in Dallas, blazing a 4.47 in the 40, a 40.8-inch vertical, a 4.00 shuttle drill, and a 37-foot power ball throw – calculating a 125.85 SPARQ score.
A friend of his in Ryan Watts was also a high scorer on the day, posting a 116.91 SPARQ score. For context, with how extraordinary of an athlete Clark Phillips III is, both Kimber and Watts beat his SPARQ score of 104.43 by a good margin – another impressive score in itself.
Dontae Manning’s visit during the Blue-Gold Game is worth highlighting. The Kansas City standout is in daily contact with staff, building a strong bond early. Recently elevated to the No. 34 overall prospect nationally by 247Sports, his talent is highly regarded nationally.
It’ll also be worthwhile keeping tabs on Washington three-star cornerbacks Donovan Clark and Kasen Kinchen when they hit South Bend on March 20. Clark boasts excellent size at 6-foot-3, 190-pounds while Kinchen plays at a solid program where he notched seven interceptions and over 1,000 yards receiving as a junior.
This is a star-studded list for Todd Lyght to work with.
Visitors: Landon Tengwall (Mar. 23-24) Cristian Dixon (Apr. 13)
Arguably my favorite 2021 prospect on Notre Dame offer board, Landon Tengwall is a monster – plain and simple.
I’ve watched multiple full games of Good Counsel in the fall while evaluating Cam Hart, his teammate. And what I saw was a 6-foot-6, 315-pound sophomore who was the most physically dominant athlete on the field versus a few big-name programs, including Marietta and St. John’s.
While Notre Dame looks to build a large 2020 wide receiver class, the staff will likely look for a smaller group in 2021. With that said, Cristian Dixon has long been showing a serious interest in Notre Dame. Being a Top 100-ranked pass-catcher out of California, certainly, this is an exciting development.
Well those are 2 positions where we need someone to step up for sure. Just want to hear more about the linebackers and DT position
only thing ive seen today regarding linebackers is that we should not expect a depth chart until august at the earliest. lea wants to do a lot of rotating to get everyone experience this spring.
When do they get busted for some minor offense and miss the season
this seems a bad sign.
BuT Nd DoEsNt ReCrUiT 5 StArS
on the flipside of that, has boykin every played like the best athlete in the entirety of cfb?
Who was the last 5 star we signed?
Do we even have a 5 star on the roster?
Hamilton is/was 5*
So was Jaylon but only because the scale didn't go to 6
5 star measurables =/= 5 star player
Boykin was never the impact player you’d expect from a 5 star prospect
It’s really a testament on how good these coaches can develop players. But Clemson can do that also, just need to get on their level at the skill positions
Always recruit better and build.
this is a quote from Chip Long today - "It was telling that to be at a championship level there has to be a commitment year round to major recruiting, major player development and I think it is happening right now with the success we’ve had the last two years."
From BK a few days ago in the Pete Thamel story - “There still is a bit of a gap in the outside skill players,” Kelly said, comparing the Irish to Clemson. “Their wide receivers are so talented. It just might be that way for anyone in the country. We've got to get [former star receivers] Michael Floyd and Will Fuller on the field at the same time. We've got to get so much better at the running back position. We're getting there, we're developing linemen, we need to continue to grow at the skill positions, and that's a lot easier to do [compared to] getting knocked off the ball.”
this is what gives me hope that we're going to land a truly elite offensive class this year. BK and Chip know the missing piece at this point is the elite playmaker on offense...seriously, imagine if we had MFloyd and Will Fuller together with CJ Procise and Tyler Eifert, we'd have been unstoppable. The coaches acknowleding this problem is the first step, and now I believe they will do everything they can to land the top guys and not settle for Cam Hart even though he's not a bad player.
From the II podcast, apparently Kevin Austin has shithead issues. This feels like Dexter Williams all over again.
2021 QB Tyler Buchner commits to ND. Kid looks really good but was out last year with an ACL injury
His he clean?
This was basically made clear on the II podcast. Sampson said at one point "a player I am writing a story on told me he's going to ND". 10 minutes later a question about Buchner Sampson says he's writing a sorry on him.
Good? I imagine since Nd is not taking scraps anymore
247 has him as their #2 pro style QB.
it felt more like the kid was struggling in the classroom to me, so they sent a message to him by leaving him home
did I interpret it wrong?
Sounded more like he’s just not handling the day to day. Would assume missing meetings etc.