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  1. IHHH

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    Just rewatching the game as a background noise, damn did bell get his bell rung. No pun

    his chin hit the turf so hard and he was out before he even bounced back down on the ball.
     
  2. Thoros of Beer

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    You stop
     
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    He’s baiting you. Don’t fall for it.
     
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  5. theregionsitter

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    Interesting to watch Eichenberg and Simon be subpar starters at OSU

    Lea was an absolutely outrageous evaluator of LB talent.
     
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  7. a1ND

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    “It takes a lot of things to be in place for that to happen. Fr. John (Jenkins) has been with me on this journey. Jack (Swarbrick) has been on this journey. Consistency, leadership, alignment, all these things have to come together to get to this point.

    “We’re going to play our rival and they’ve had a number of different head coaches at their university. You know, I’m talking about our rival on the west coast. This is not to smear them at all. I’m just saying it requires consistency to get to these marks.

    “We have it with our leadership, our athletic director, and we’ve had it in the coaching because we have alignment. Because of that, that’s helped a lot in being consistent and winning football games.”

    • Brian Kelly on tying Knute Rockne’s Notre Dame record 105 victories
    • Jack Coan’s third start clearly was his least accurate in Notre Dame’s 27-13 victory over Purdue, and it started with his first attempt in the opening series when he threw behind running back Kyren Williams.

    Coan threw behind Kevin Austin Jr. with Purdue defensive end George Karlaftis bearing down on him. He overthrew Austin in the end zone, which prompted some pointed criticism from Brian Kelly. He threw out of bounds when Austin was re-routed along the sideline. He overthrew a deep ball to Austin and fired a shot over the middle to Joe Wilkins Jr. that would have required a great catch. He even set up tight end Michael Mayer for a big hit on a dump pass over the middle.

    No, it was not an accurate day for Coan per se. But then there were the extraordinary throws like his 20-yarder to Avery Davis that was dropped in amidst Purdue cornerback Dedrick Mackey, safety Cam Allen and safety Marvin Grant.

    The 62-yard raindrop to Davis was a throw (and a route) that rarely was attempted with Ian Book at quarterback. His perfect toss to Braden Lenzy in the back of the end zone fell incomplete. Coan took advantage of a 6-foot-3, 310-pound defensive lineman – Lawrence Johnson – dropping into coverage on a linebacker blitz with linebacker OC Brothers in an unenviable spot of defending Kyren Williams on a 39-yard score.

    Quarterbacks are going to miss receivers and have games where one’s accuracy is not pinpoint, particularly with the ever-present Karlaftis lurking. The notion that a college quarterback should complete every pass in which a receiver is open is unrealistic, although Coan needs to be more accurate than he was against the Boilermakers. The margin for error is about to diminish as the Irish enter the meat of their schedule.

    • For those clamoring for a change at quarterback, pump the brakes. There’s a reason the coaching staff has provided limited passing opportunities for Tyler Buchner. He doesn’t know the full gamut of the playbook. He has not been as accurate on the practice field as Jack Coan. After all, he didn’t play football two of the previous three seasons. He’s a more inexperienced quarterback than many that matriculate to the collegiate level because of an injury and the pandemic.

    Sure, the more Buchner plays, the more he will be trusted to throw the football. But right now, he’s providing a nice change of pace with his quick/power running ability, such as his five-yard run on his first snap in which he showed his strength to avoid a loss. His 20-yard quarterback draw on a 3rd-and-long situation showed his quickness and for some reason caught the Boilermakers a bit off guard. Buchner tweaked a hamstring in the first half and was held out of competition the rest of the game.

    Coan is infinitely better prepared to lead Notre Dame to victory. The “shiny new toy” that captures the imagination should do great things for the Irish moving forward. Brian Kelly and Tommy Rees have done a nice job in two games of striking a balance. They’ll have a much better idea when it’s time to relinquish the reins to Buchner, which – provided Coan remains healthy in 2021 – will come in 2022.

    • That being said, I get a real kick out of the wide-eyed enjoyment Tyler Buchner seems to have on game day. I love his demeanor. He looks like he’s having a great time, whether he’s preparing to come into the game or celebrating the success of Coan and his teammates.

    At one point, NBC analyst Drew Brees said we had yet to see Buchner make a play from the pocket. He completed a 15-yarder to Braden Lenzy against Toledo. But the point was that in order for Buchner to remain productive, Kelly/Rees will have to expand his playbook, which is done from week-to-week as they go through the growing process. Again, he’s a quarterback who played one season in the previous three years in high school.

    This is a week – Wisconsin – in which Buchner will need to be prepared to do more against a stingy Badger unit coached by Jim Leonhard. The linebacker pressure applied by Wisconsin will be extreme at times. It’s what they do.

    • The selective acknowledgement of when Marcus Freeman uses a three-down look effectively can be maddening. At one point, Drew Brees said, “That’s the first time they’ve been in a three-man front.” He said it after a successful Purdue play.

    When Brees says it, it’s taken as gospel. But it was inaccurate, which happens because they’re calling the game live and can’t see everything. The Irish were in a three-down look on Purdue’s first offensive snap when Kyle Hamilton swooped in and batted down Jack Plummer’s pass. They were in a three-man front when Purdue tried to run a wildcat with King Doerue, which gained zero yards.

    They were in three-down when Justin Ademilola dropped quarterback Jack Plummer for a four-yard loss. They were in a three-down on 2nd-and-1 when Kurt Hinish made a tackle for loss. They were in a three-man front when Purdue threw incomplete on 2nd-and-10 later in the game. There likely were a couple others that I didn’t track.

    While we can mostly agree that the three-man front was ill-advised against Florida State because the Seminoles are effective running the football and took advantage of their offensive line working their way to the second level to block Notre Dame’s inside linebackers, the notion that Notre Dame hasn’t or can’t play effective defensive football in a three-man front is not accurate.

    Of course, when you’re playing Purdue, which doesn’t run the football nearly as well as Florida State, you can use more three-man fronts, particularly with the Boilermakers missing leading rusher Alexander Horvath.

    • Why is JD Bertrand so good? He’s quick and decisive. He knows his keys. He has the opponent well-scouted, such as his immediate reaction to a swing pass to running back Dylan Downing for a three-yard loss.

    He has the uncanny ability to time his blitz and either get to the quarterback or alter the quarterback’s timing of release. When he over-pursues a pass in the flat to Doerue, you take notice because he so infrequently fails to make a play in the open field, which is no small task for a linebacker chasing running backs and slot receivers.

    • What a clutch game by Irish wide receiver Avery Davis on a day in which Notre Dame’s other senior receivers – Kevin Austin Jr., Braden Lenzy and Joe Wilkins Jr. -- were mostly ineffective. Davis was targeted five times and had five receptions for 120 yards, including the critical 62-yarder that gave the Irish their first two-score lead five minutes into the third quarter.

    Again, it was not a particularly accurate day overall for Jack Coan, but he received little-to-no help from Austin, Lenzy and Wilkins, who combined for three catches for 21 yards (all but Lenzy) on a whopping 17 targets (eight for Austin, seven for Lenzy and two for Wilkins). At some point, you’ve got to help the quarterback and make a play. If that means making a spectacular catch, then so be it. That’s you job.

    Davis is a behind-the-scenes leader on this football team. He’s so behind-the-scenes that many Irish fans had limited expectations for him entering the season despite returning as the leading receiver. He had just three catches through the first two games. He’s now tied among Irish wideouts with eight for 149 yards (18.6) and a score. (Austin also has eight catches for 154 yards – 19.3 – and a score.)

    • Body language says a lot about an athlete. It sets a tone among teammates. It’s a reflection of your team among observers. A player moping on the field creates a negative team environment. That’s not to say that Kevin Austin Jr. and Braden Lenzy were moping against Purdue. But the body language was less than what you would hope when Notre Dame is struggling offensively.

    It’s likely one of the reasons Brian Kelly reportedly gave some stern advice to Austin and Wilkins during the Purdue game. The blank stares back at the quarterback and the raised hands or gestures as if “what am I supposed to do?” are detrimental to the cause. It’s maddening for coaches.

    • Red-shirt freshman Tosh Baker made notable progress during his first career start against the Boilermakers. At 6-foot-8, 300 pounds, he will always have to work on moving his feet. He has a basketball background, which needs to show itself more frequently. It can’t be easy moving around at that size, particularly when going against a player of George Karlaftis’ ability.

    The two false starts are going to happen to most left tackles, let alone one making his first start. Baker got better – generally speaking – as the day wore on. Brian Kelly noted Baker’s intensity in the fourth quarter.

    “When you look in the kid’s eyes (during) a timeout and he’s got a look that he’s just loving it, like, ‘I love being out here competing,’ I just love the fact he got in there and battled and has some experience now that we can count on.”

    • Credit to Purdue for bottling up tight end Michael Mayer by limiting him to just one catch for five yards. Much of the credit goes to linebacker Jalen Graham, who proved capable of matching up with Mayer in coverage. Graham had help over the top, of course, as the Boilermakers sometimes bracketed the Irish tight end.

    But Mayer did other things that helped the offensive cause. He drew a 4th-and-5 interference call on Graham. (I thought the flag was unwarranted.) Drew Brees pointed out that Mayer drew double-coverage of Avery Davis’ 62-yard score.

    Mayer clearly was a victim of a targeting penalty that wasn’t called. It was good to hear former official/rules expert Terry McAulay clarify something that isn’t clarified enough. It doesn’t have to be helmet-to-helmet contact for it to be targeting. Using the crown of one’s helmet to any part of the body is targeting.

    Most aren’t big fans of players being ejected for targeting and I agree. But when it’s a penalty by rule, it needs to be called.

    • Dealing with receiver David Bell and tight end Payne Durham was no easy task. And yet the Irish did a masterful job of containing Bell (10 targets, seven catches for 64 yards with a long of 32) and Durham (10 targets, six catches for 29 yards with a long of seven).

    To hold Bell to just 28 yards after the catch was a testament to Notre Dame’s nickel and (some) dime coverages with the ever-present Kyle Hamilton lurking. Kelly talked about bracketing Bell and using a robber – for example, a streaking safety into the underneath passing lanes where Bell likes to roam – to discourage the Purdue quarterbacks seeking their security blanket.

    Drew White did an effective job defending Durham, who had just 12 yards after the catch with some bracketing help. That generally has not been considered a White forte that Marcus Freeman seems to have brought out in him. His re-routing of Durham in the red zone was impressive.

    • Containing George Karlaftis is incredibly difficult and will continue to be when he moves on to the NFL. Notre Dame used running backs, tight ends, offensive line double teams and mostly ran away from his side of the field. Even though his statistics were modest, he still impacts the game by forcing the opposing offense to maneuver around him. That’s the sign of a great player.

    “If we didn’t do some of those things, George was going to wreck the day,” Kelly said. “We had to do some things that from an offensive (perspective), it’s not a beauty. We just want to find a way to score enough points. Today was one of those (days) when you have an elite pass rusher like that.”

    • One of the problems that plagues Notre Dame’s offensive line is its mechanical approach to playing the game. The offensive line is under siege, both from opponents and critics. Individually, they’re so dialed in to not making a mistake on their man that they don’t have a feel for when to peel off and pick up a blitzing linebacker. Delayed linebacker and defensive back blitzes are killing the Irish offense. Guess what Wisconsin is going to do? Wisconsin’s second-level players attack the line of scrimmage as much as any defense you’re going to see...Brian Kelly said right tackle Josh Lugg is playing his best football. I haven’t seen that. He frequently was overwhelmed by Karlaftis. In fact, first-time starter Tosh Baker handled Karlaftis better than the fifth-year senior. The Irish were fortunate on the 62-yarder to Davis because Karlaftis nearly pushed Lugg into Coan…

    • Rover Isaiah Pryor continues to impress. Credit to Marcus Freeman for finding a role for Pryor and turning him loose. Pryor had a career-high eight tackles against the Boilermakers. He is menacing when he’s bearing down on a quarterback or sprinting to help on passes that widen the field. Pryor stalks his prey…Notre Dame employed some dime coverage, which hasn’t been a significant part of the defense in recent seasons. Will be asking Kelly about that Monday at noon as well as flip-flopping Cam Hart and Clarence Lewis

    • It was a tough day at times for cornerback Cam Hart. He was whistled for pass interference and held on the same play – a 32-yarder to Bell. He showed bad ball awareness on the touchdown pass to Mitchell Wright. But he hung in there and made a play on the football that DJ Brown intercepted to end the game…Speaking of DJ Brown, that was great improvement from the Florida State game, which led to his benching against Toledo. He had seven tackles in addition to his late pick…The soft nature of Houston Griffith’s tackle attempt on a pass to Purdue’s Jackson Anthrop probably had something to do with Brown’s extended playing time. Can’t play if you can’t tackle at a tackling position…Speaking of Anthrop, he really impressed on film entering the game. He was great after the catch against Oregon State and Connecticut, and then had 54 of his 90 yards on seven receptions after the catch against the Irish. Anthrop would play for Notre Dame…

    • Freshman offensive tackle Joe Alt – wearing No. 45 to serve as an extra tight end – didn’t play extensively. But he was impactful on the first snap of the game by getting good push against Purdue defensive end DaMarcus Mitchell and again on Kyren Williams’ 51-yard touchdown run. He will be needed against Wisconsin…People have asked what Notre Dame can do offensively to loosen up the rushing attack. Sprinkling in more two-back stuff with Kyren Williams and Chris Tyree helps. When Tyree sprinted to his left post-snap to receive a pass, Coan handed off to Williams for a five-yard gain. That’s modest yardage, but it put Notre Dame in a 2nd-and-5, which is a good place to be…Interesting to see Brian Kelly brainstorming with running backs coach Lance Taylor on running back blitz pickups. Those are not easy, particularly when Williams saw someone bursting through the middle of the line first…

    • Kyle Hamilton’s open-field tackle on a receiver sweep with Mitchell Wright was football brilliance. He was lined up eight yards off the line of scrimmage, diagnosed Wright’s pre-snap motion from the get-go and just sliced in for what to Hamilton is an easy stop. Purdue was up 3-0 at that point…NaNa Osafo-Mensah is coming on. He’s tied for second on the team in quarterback hurries (two) and picked up his first career sack against the Boilermakers while adding a quarterback hurry. NOM’s backside pressure has been impressive…A really bad miss by Clarence Lewis on a play in which the defensive line pinched down and Lewis was responsible for the edge. King Doerue beat him to the punch for a 31-yard run…

    Myron Tagovailoa-Amosa and Isaiah Foskey are playing quality defensive football. MTA looks so quick and agile in his new body. He made a key tackle for loss on a 3rd-and-1 in the second quarter. Also good to see his captain skills shine after Brian Kelly hammered Ramon Henderson for forcing the Irish into an early second-half timeout because just 10 men were on the field. MTA put an arm around Henderson as BK was finishing his tongue-lashing…It’s difficult to miss a field goal any worse than Jonathan Doerer’s 45-yard attempt vs. Purdue. But he banged an important 30-yarder to give the Irish a 20-13 lead at 10:50 of the fourth quarter…What a tremendous pooch punt by Jay Bramblett that Kyle Hamilton and Isaiah Pryor downed inside the one…When it comes to coverage units, you can always count on seeing No. 10 (Isaiah Pryor), No. 27 (JD Bertrand), No. 24 (Jack Kiser) and No. 52 (Bo Bauer) around the football…

    • The one-two interior defensive line punch of Jayson Ademilola and Kurt Hinish is one of the more underrated duos in the country. Ademilola won’t stay blocked. He is around the football on virtually every snap. It’s not often a defensive tackle is No. 2 on the team in tackles with 14 through three games. Rylie Mills is not playing effectively enough to warrant more snaps in place of Ademilola. Hinish earned the game ball for his work during the week as well as the resetting of the point of attack against the Boilermakers…By the way, it’s also not often that a defensive end leads the team in stops through three games. Of Foskey’s 15 tackles, three-and-a-half have been sacks…

    Drew Brees kept saying the screen game to the running backs is an extension of the running game. Here’s why I disagree. Semantics are involved, but I say it’s an extension of the passing game. The skillset required of a running back in the screen game is completely different. Handing it to him and catching it are polar opposites. The same with offensive linemen. Pass-blocking on screen plays is nothing like run blocking. Thus, it’s an extension of the passing game…I completely agreed with Brees on Notre Dame’s pre-game advantage over Purdue – the Irish defensive line vs. Purdue’s offensive line…

    • Mike Tirico referencing Tosh (Baker) 3.0 – as the third starting left tackle in three games – was clever…At halftime, Corey Robinson said Notre Dame’s offensive line “was trying its best.” Wow, that’s good to know. This is amateurish analysis…A salute to Notre Dame athletic department great Roger Valdiserri up in the pressbox. A one-of-a-kind, great man…I saw nothing live or on film that warranted Notre Dame’s sideline warning…It’s funny to hear the crowd reaction when Kyren Williams decides to return a punt. The stirring of anticipation is striking…As an unofficial representative of all things Hungarian with the late Lou Somogyi, the running back’s name for Purdue is pronounced Hor-voth, not Hor-vath. Any South Bender would know that.
     
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  9. Rise

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    Prister - wow.
    I would ask that you please make a note of this because I've said it on podcasts and have written it on Irish Illustrated multiple times.

    I believe Notre Dame should make coaching changes along the offensive line and at receiver. I was on record saying that Notre Dame shouldn't have hired the current OL coach. He was not well-received upon his hiring.

    I'm not, however, going to blame a coach on a weekly basis whenever a player and/or unit has a bad play. I'm not going to pick out a play when an offensive lineman is beaten and say it's the assistant coach's fault over and over and over again. You can't fire a position coach during the season because you have no replacement. You can fire a coordinator and shift responsibilities.
     
  10. Juke Coolengody

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    Wasn't the OL a finalist for the Joe Moore Award last year? We're supposed to go along with the narrative that this was all despite having a terrible position coach?

    I understand that Quinn was an unpopular hire and the OL has been the weakest unit on the team this year, but I think there's a little bit of revisionist history right now and not enough focus on how ND lost like 100 starts off of the OL this offseason and has suffered 2 injuries at the most critical position.
     
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  11. IrishLAX2

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    Driskell made the point that a lot of the guys last year already had good technique by the time Quinn got them. At that point it all became a motivation and schematics thing. All of these current guys are pretty raw technique wise and need a ton of coaching. Quinn apparently sucks at coaching technique.

    Same for Alexander at the WR position. Our WRs get by purely on physical ability, but they suck as route runners and breaking press coverage.

    Kelly stressed in his press conference today that the defense got back to stressing technique fundamentals and it paid dividends on Saturday. So then all the beat writers immediately began wondering why the same wasn’t done on the OL and at WR. Its a good question.
     
  12. DetroitIrish3

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    Del has definitely done a solid job recruiting in the 2021 and 2022 classes, but our WRs take way too long to make impacts and none of them have been touted as great route runners when getting drafted either.
     
  13. Druce

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    Maybe I'm crazy, but I feel like route running is one of the easier things to coach. Be precise, don't be lazy, give good fakes, give the qb room to the sideline
     
  14. IHHH

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    even boykin sucked at beating press, he is 6'4 220 and was going against 5'10 180 pound cbs.
     
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    nah its really not. there is a lot of nuance in there on how to leverage your advantage when the DB is in a bad position in a way that doesnt lead to miscommunication
     
  16. NDJOECA

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  17. a1ND

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    so I'm confused then. When Driskell was criticizing Quinn during the 2018 season for poor run blocking, what happened to Hiestand's fundamentals then? What about in 2019 when EVERYONE criticized the OL because ND couldn't pick up 3rd and short? Was that on Heistand or Quinn? All the sudden ND has an ELITE OL in 2020 and that's all because of Hiestand's fundamentals? What a complete pile of crap that is. You can't criticize the same coach in 2018 and 2019 and not give him his due credit in 2020. Eichenberg HATED Heistand. Jarrett Patterson was only coached (and recruited by) Quinn.

    2018 was a totally inexperienced Offensive Line that was pretty good at pass blocking.

    2019 was a disaster on offense with all the friction from Chip Long and the rest of the staff

    2020 was completely dominant and almost completely developed by Quinn

    2021 is a new line again and they've been hit w/ injuries on top of it. They need to get a lot better but it's stupid to me to hear the criticism of Quinn when he's already proven he can develop an oline given time
     
  18. Beeds07

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    So Gameday and Fox are both doing ND/Wisky? ESPN REALLY hates going to SB
     
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  19. Juke Coolengody

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    This is where I’m at. It feels like all the analysts who publicly criticized the Quinn hire are coming out of the woodwork now that the line is struggling. The OL was always going to be a huge work in progress this year. Quinn deserves a huge amount of criticism for how poorly the line is playing this year, but I think he’s proven to be a decent coach and last year’s team success was largely built on the development of the OL.

    Were there better options available when BK hired him? Maybe so, but that’s an entirely different conversation.
     
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    I don't understand if Quinn is awful to the media, if the whole media was backing Person X to be the line coach, or what, but this organized hit on Quinn is pretty wild. OL had a brutal 2 game start, made some progress, is dealing with injuries and transfers, still recruiting fine, and will probably still be an above average line by year's end.
     
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    It's also clear that the 2018 and 2019 oline classes are the cause of the problems here in 2021

    2018 was almost completely a waste because Heistand simply didn't care anymore as he was leaving for the NFL. Thank goodness Quinn landed Patterson at the last minute

    2019 was terrible too even though it was almost universally praised at the time of the signing. Zeke is clearly playing out of position. Quinn Carroll had a serious injury and hasn't been the same since. Kristofic can't seem to gain weight and maintain it. Olmstead should never have been a take outside of being a depth player.

    Some of that is clearly on Quinn, but some is on Heistand as well and some is just bad luck but that is where we are at now
     
  22. IrishLAX2

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    Interesting question in today’s presser that Kelly didn’t know the answer to off-hand - does Jack Coan have another year of eligibility after this year?

    The fact Kelly doesn’t even know the answer leads me to believe they’re trying to get Buchner ready to be the starter next year regardless. But it’s not bad news at all if we can keep Coan around another year.
     
  23. Rise

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    there has to be uniform discontent inside the program about Quinn.
     
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  24. beist

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    Kelly has decided he is going to fire Quinn and has given the media permission to talk about it so that the conversation is a little easier when he has to deliver the news in two months.

    Prister coming in with "I've been saying this all along" is a telltale.
     
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  25. theregionsitter

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    He’s not getting fired he will move to an analyst role
     
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  26. Red Rover

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    I feel that Patterson adamant about playing center is also hurting the line. Correll can really only play center and is good at it from what we saw last year
     
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  27. Rise

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    I am having trouble thinking of a more boom or bust game - it’s literally going to come down to if we connect on our deep shots where we don’t let free rushers in. Probably need 3-4 to win. Miss those and we are losing 21-13 or something like that
     
  28. Juke Coolengody

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    I keep on thinking this too and the II guys kind of talked about it on their pod today. There seems to be some thought that there could be more dramatic change coming, but they're waiting until the bye week to even think that way.
     
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  29. NilesIrish

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    No joke, Driskell credits Watt for 2020.
    It’s insane.
     
  30. lomcevak

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    I bet he has other thoughts on 2020 as well...
     
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  31. NilesIrish

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    He also credits dead people and “illegals”
     
  32. Chumbolone

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    The last bullet point is a perfect encapsulation of why Tim Prister is an insufferable faggot. How this guy hasn’t been punched yet walking through the tailgate lot is beyond me.
     
  33. NilesIrish

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  34. Chumbolone

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    Ok, he’s not completely insufferable.
     
  35. Yanks711

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    IU had Cincy dead to rights and gave them the game, UC played incredibly undisciplined. Was also not very impressed with Ridder.
     
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    Ridder is all about confidence and rhythm. When he's feeling it, he's dangerous. They are going to have to get to him early and often and he'll make mistakes. If he gets comfortable, there's trouble.
     
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    If they just did this more consistently.
     
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    Loy put in the crystal ball for Sedrick Irvin and said he’s close on Major Everhart. The articles they are writing about Everhart makes it seem like he is a silent in a sense.
     
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    i like everhart quite a bit. guy is fast as fuck.
     
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    How many linemen and tes do you need to get a push on Purdue?

    but seriously it was an improved performance. If carmody is back and baker continues to improve they might be average at some point in the season.

    so many teams are struggling this year.
     
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    So Alt also played a bit and looked okay doing so. At what point do you just bench Lugg, cuz the more senior members of the OL really arent additions at this point
     
  43. theregionsitter

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    I mean Baker is really promising

    wonder is Carmody can play guard?

    Fisher, Spindler, Zeke, Carmody, Baker 2022
     
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    or bench madden and move lugg to guard. But Like some said here before, there probably won’t be a big change before the bye week.
     
  45. IrishLAX2

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    Team bench Madden and move Lugg to guard
     
  46. a1ND

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    would love the Major Everhart pickup, he would add something completey different to the offense
     
  47. theregionsitter

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    everytime ND gets one of these “different” offensive players they bust
     
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    You take a flyer on 10.38 100m speed every single time
     
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    Drayk Bowen visiting for the Cincinnati game. He will visit ND 3 times in October - Cinci, USC, UNC games

    Feels like good news
     
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    this should absolutely go without saying.
     
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