*Notre Dame* - On Vacation

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  1. laxjoe

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    Colorado beat Xavier tonight!
     
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  2. NilesIrish

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    You'd be surprised at the lack of major donors for athletic buildings. Especially sports aside from football (basketball practice facility) he's done a great job IMO. We are to the lashing out to lash out stage.
     
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  3. Bert Handsome

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    There may not be the big ticket donors like a T Boone, Phil Knight , etc, but they could sell the naming rights to a urinal for 5 figures.
     
  4. Thoros of Beer

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    Actually the UA deal isn't going as well as the administration would like. Whatever equity we received as part of that deal has lost value since we signed. Our deal is also considerably less than what UCLA just received from them and I don't think we have a most favored nation clause.

    Also if we keep putting up ratings like we did this season, NBC is going to relegate us to NBC Sports for the majority of games.

    Donations have largely dried up after reaching an all time high after 2012 and into the Crossroads project. Good football = more donations not only for athletics, but new research facilities. The one thing that Swarbrick has failed to do during his tenure is priority number one from which all else flows: put a consistently good product on the field.

    Like it or not Notre Dame would be Marquette if it weren't for the football program so perhaps some anger from alums and those with strong connections is justified when the administration fails in managing a cornerstone of the University.
     
  5. NilesIrish

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    Again, you'd be surprised. There is a reason that almost all new construction is academic or multi purpose. Track and field to my knowledge is still unnamed as is alumni stadium for soccer. Big time special interest donors often have their fingers in the pot they came from. Most at ND are not from athletics.
     
  6. laxjoe

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    what? i had no idea

     
  7. NilesIrish

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    Oh yeah, I don't remember details but Brey basically had him in the bag. Something went haywire.
     
  8. Red Rover

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    Yeah, no one cared much at the time but ND was counting on him in that class

    Brey's eye for talent is great
     
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  9. NilesIrish

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    After a quick refresher, Bennett (the then WSU coach) had a former colleague from his time as an assistant at WSU who happened to be Thompson's AAU coach. He pushed him there.
     
  10. laxjoe

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    Yeah just read that. Crazy
     
  11. NilesIrish

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    Iirc Klay also worked us in a tourney game to add insult to injury.
     
  12. NilesIrish

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    Looks like I'm wrong. WSU worked us in a 4-5 game in 2008, but I can't find any reference to Thompson.
     
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  13. laxjoe

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    Yeah think he showed up the following year.
     
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  14. allaboutthecash

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    ND football is dead and you have Killy to thank for it
     
  15. Beeds07

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    It's cool to hate stuff now. Makes you edgy. I get the anger about the football program, but every other sport at ND sans maybe baseball is trending up. Whats funny is that if the football team starts 3-0 everybody with probably STFU.

    except for thoros, but oh well
     
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  16. ZeroPointZero

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    Do you get credit for that if you didn't make any of the hires?

    Pat Haden was pretty good with the Olympic sports, and it looks like Enfield is a solid hire for men's basketball, but I doubt you'll find a single SC fan upset he's no longer the AD
     
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  17. repoocs

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    I hated this post before hating posts was cool.
     
  18. Thoros of Beer

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    Yeah man you got me
     
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  19. NilesIrish

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    Guys, ND football is dead. Cash told me so. He also said so in 85' 53' etc. so you know it's true.
     
  20. laxjoe

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    Nova game tomorrow at noon. Should be a good one. Also, another quality win last night for one of our opponents as Iowa took down Iowa state. Would be really nice if they could somehow turn in a solid season
     
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  21. NilesIrish

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    Every game that goes by I get more excited about watching this team of "scrubs" piss people off.
     
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  22. NilesIrish

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    Dusty. As. Fuck.

     
  23. NDfanPSUgrad

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    Banks to ND?
     
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  24. NilesIrish

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    Yup, Nice.
     
  25. Good Effort! Good Game!

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    HH has a hell of a haul in this class
     
  26. NilesIrish

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    OL should be good for a long time. Curious to see if this year is an off year or if HH is wearing out wrt coaching. Dude can recruit though.
     
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  27. Bert Handsome

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    This guy only has a 88% CB rating but we picked up a CB for Joshual Paschal too

    [​IMG]
     
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  28. Red Rover

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    Thanks Pelican

    Kaindoh flipping from Maryland was the easiest call of this entire cycle
     
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  29. NilesIrish

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    THE CLASS WILL FALL APART!!!!
     
  30. Pelican

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    Good to see my crystal ball is back in the top ten.

    :blessed:
     
  31. chase538

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    That Paschal kid is a monster. Would play right away IMO.
     
  32. Pelican

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    I should crystal ball Foster Sarell to ND.
     
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  33. Thoros of Beer

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    don't be a dick
     
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  34. Thoros of Beer

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    you're a weird guy, ace. i think people are more concerned with the 2018 class falling apart.
     
  35. NilesIrish

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    You've not met me. I think most here who have would disagree. I just detest chicken little stuff. I mean a huge part of the attack on Swarbrick was that this class would fall apart if he didn't make a move.

    I'm not saying all is right. It's not. Stuff is grey though, not black and white.
     
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  36. Thoros of Beer

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    how was that a huge part? i can't imagine anyone really cared that much about the 2017 class. a lame duck coach hurts 2018.
     
  37. NilesIrish

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    it's been stated, not by you, but by many people. Hell, my own father is/was one of them. I have no issue with your desire to move on, I am seriously 50/50, but the all is naught stuff drives me crazy.
     
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  38. Thoros of Beer

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    you're still 50/50 on Kelly? why? nevermind don't answer that. i hope we beat villanova tomorrow.
     
  39. Bert Handsome

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    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-12-01/do-college-football-refs-have-it-in-for-your-team

     
  40. Bert Handsome

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  41. NilesIrish

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    On his firing? Yes given the landscape this year.
    My dream would have been for Swarbrick to have reached out to multiple A level coaches and if one was willing, to make a move.
    Either that did not happen, or, no one was interested. I will never know.
    I was and am not in favor of firing Brian Kelly at this point simply to fire him and "test" a new name.
    I am also not in favor of attacking the best AD we have had in decades because people don't like the fact that he won't fire a coach.

    HTH
     
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  42. Thoros of Beer

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    i don't know by what measure you're calling Jack the best AD in "decades". I think we have different priorities. I'll give him credit for the ACC deal and the way he's embarrassed Michigan, but other than that he's dropped the ball in one too many instances for many alumni. Bottomline is you give him a pass for his shortcomings and praise what he's done for minimal/non-revenue sports, while most of the quality coaches weren't hired by him in the first place. Honestly, he hasn't done much of anything for basketball. HTH
     
  43. NilesIrish

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    He is significantly better than both Wadsworth and White. Rosenthal retired in 94. Hence, decades.

    Stability has been the best in a LONG time for all sports. Brey's head was called for under Swarbrick's lead, he stayed the course, that was the right move. The ACC move was out of the box and given a good football team is brilliant, that should not be diminished. I have no man crush on the guy. If he got fired tomorrow I wouldn't shed a tear, just like Kelly. I just know that ND sports in total are at a very high level. Overwhelming change (firing Swarbrick) is reactionary to one programs struggles which are much deeper than, "the coach sucks".
     
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  44. Thoros of Beer

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    firing an AD is not overwhelming change, and the one program you speak of is the crown jewel of the university. would you trade the success we have in all of the other sports for sustained success in football? or are they good enough for you?
     
  45. NilesIrish

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    It certainly can be given previous AD hires.

    I would also like to think the crown jewel of the University is the University. I'm a fucking townie, but I appreciate way more than just sports.

    And no I would not, I want success throughout. I want to win every national championship that ND has a shot for. I don't see today how firing Swarbrick advances that goal.
     
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  46. SD_Irish

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    Is he visiting this weekend or what?
     
  47. mccar2cm

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    247 has him down as a visitor this weekend.
     
  48. Yanks711

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    6-7 340? holy fuck
     
  49. Pelican

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    Paschal would be a nice recruiting win over Maryland and Kentucky.
     
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  50. Pelican

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    But seriously he is pretty good.
     
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