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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Thoros of Beer, Feb 3, 2016.
Desperation. Focus on basketball. Less political pressure making exceptions for that team. Who knows
The prerequisite of "is this player better than what we've got already on the roster" is much less restrictive
Yeah, there is some good stuff in that Athletic article Joe posted. They gave Shrews rules (kid has to be on track to graduate once his credits shake out).
That seems to be the rule across sports, b-ball just needs dudes so they are doing the front end work and finding guys who fit.
exactly, the basketball team sucks. No one wants to come to nd football to not play. The transfer portal has been very good for football. Who transferred in basketball that can come close to Hartman or even the safety from Oklahoma state?
Especially when there's almost no existing roster.
It is going to take time for this team to gel but I think we are going to enjoy watching them play. The roster makeup here is clearly a 180 turn from what we were used to under Brey.
My money is on them being fun to watch.
That’s better than the same six you’ve seen for years.
he made it!!
He looks like he should be at ND. I think they knew something when they held Brix out. Rees being their insider and being gone is killing these sites.
Lambert is scheduled to take like 4 more OVs: PSU, BC, OSU, and I think UF
so that seems like wishful thinking
ND losing OVs from top 150 kids seems like an interesting strategy: Malachi Williams, Brix,, Lane, Umeh, Dupree all saying ND cooled and aren’t visiting now
very curious to see wtf ND is doing
I see. My other point was that we would be seeing five CBs if they knew he was visiting, and that just isn’t happening as much. I think it’s refreshing that these guys have to work at their “jobs” now and aren’t just feeding a line of bullshit they got from their “source”.
This kid looks like every ND safety recruit ever so I consider him committed now
what? Why? Take as many talented kids as you can
Ok the Jones kid passes the eye test
This is the RB Dmc wants
He looks like a 31 year old 17 year old.
or maybe knowing this kid and how little he likes recruiting he doesn't want to take anymore OVs after this weekend and commits to ND :)
First thing that came to mind was Martin Lawrence telling Reggie “motherfucker you look 30”
Michigan been playing an SEC schedule for the last 3-4 years.
unfortunately this kid looks like every Ohio State OL commit ever
only as long as ryan day is in columbus
They both forgot to pack their necks.
Eggo waffle’s replacement committed.
You know? I'm OK taking a kid who squats 600 pounds, deadlifts 700, and had more than 20 sacks in one season as an interior DL.
Boom or bust where waffle was no worse than rotational no better than sharing 1 snaps
But he’s only a three star man…
Sounds like Brauntae Johnson told ND he is coming, so Loy doesn't know how many safeties ND will take this cycle
They have OV's coming from:
On campus now- ND is perceived leader
On campus this week, Utah or UCLA are perceived leaders
On campus next weekend - USC is team to beat
Unclear but visiting later this month
Unclear but visiting later this month
I'm guessing ND takes 4 Safeties so its probably: Johnson, Urlacher, Mencke, and ?
ND seemingly cooled on this guy and hes going to PSU:
Granted, I don't follow recruiting like I once did, but if ND did tell waffle no, I'm not sure why. Bring in all the talent you can, focus on quality, of course... But between transfers, injuries, and kids who don't hit, why not give yourself as many chances at getting hits on prospects as you can? I don't buy the "well ND needs to be careful with scholarship numbers" cause it always works out in the end.
100% this. Scholarships never are a problem. We started the spring at 94 scholarships and made it down to 81 in no time
The staff should never drop a kid. Let them get to campus and figure it all out then
I thought I saw Waffle fries took a secret visit to UM and it didn’t sit well
I think they're different players. Waefle's big, but has played mostly outside and probably projects best as a 3T. If it's one or the other and they are still recruiting Scott and have a whole bunch of SDE/3T swing guys already, it makes sense to take the more natural NT.
Waefle's a good prospect, but it just feels like they have plenty of his build.
This is a good point
i think the truth lies in between, the staff was ok with keeping him but also ok losing him. I bet they would rather still have him but now they spin it that way to make it look better
Shrews hired an Indianapolis AAU coach for his final assistant? We really are going to recruit.
CJ Carr and Aneyas Williams showed up this weekend to workout at Irish Invasion
Carr gonna be at ND every weekend this month
Cam Williams and Micah Gilbert also
Get this kid
Any ideas who we are targeting for 2025 QB? Realistically
Crazy offer list for a 3*
He’s a guy I know is his best friend. Dynamic dude
Loy with the cbs coming off visits this weekend:
says this guy no longer visiting:
Hopefully Prister publishing Polian on record about ND’s facilities being behind the times gets the admin to get the long overdue Gug renovations going
Here’s the article
Brian Polian spent five seasons coaching special teams and defense at Notre Dame under head coach Charlie Weis (2005-09) and another five campaigns under Brian Kelly (2017-21) with recruiting coordinator duties added. In between, Polian had stops at Stanford and Texas A&M as an assistant before a four-year run as head coach at Nevada.
His one year at LSU under Kelly in ’22 crystalized for Polian the disparity Notre Dame is facing in terms of facilities to accommodate a major college football program aspiring to national titles.
The Guglielmino Athletics Complex, the 96,000-square foot facility that houses Notre Dame’s coaching staff and where players convene for meetings and dining, opened in 2005. A facelift of “The Gug” has been in the planning stages for several years but has yet to commence without the complete funding to launch the project.
“I knew we were out-growing the Gug, but I didn’t necessarily know what the competition was,” said Polian, 48, now the Director of Athletics at his alma mater John Carroll University in Cleveland.
“Then I went down to LSU and I was like, ‘Okay, this is what it’s supposed to look like.’”
As college football has turned into a bidding war for players with the free-flowing transfer portal and unabashed “acquisition fees” to gather athletic talent, everything has grown in magnitude and scope, including tailor-made facilities.
At Notre Dame, where change occurs at a glacial pace, the football program is fighting an uphill battle that is growing steeper by the year. Academic restrictions have always been a roadblock for the Irish. Notre Dame has narrowed the gap in many areas, particularly coaching compensation.
But Name, Image, Likeness payouts continue to escalate. Notre Dame is better positioned to meet NIL needs than as recent as a year ago. But the pace of the spending in leagues such as the SEC frequently functions at breakneck speed compared to Notre Dame’s measured steps.
The need to renovate the Gug became apparent to Polian when he went with Kelly to LSU.
“The facilities stuff is real,” Polian said. “The football staff has out-grown the Gug. We out-grew the Gug. We didn’t have enough meeting space for the players. We didn’t have enough office space for the staff.
“We didn’t have training table when I was there with Charlie. These poor guys were running off the field trying to make it to south dining hall before they closed it on them.”
Food options with nutritionists calling the shots have improved significantly. That’s been in place for several years. But the facilities, says Polian, remain insufficient.
“The thought that, ‘Hey, if it was good enough for Lou (Holtz), it should be good enough for you guys’ is (outdated),” Polian said. “Lou didn’t need the beautiful indoor facilities. He made it work in Loftus. Lou didn’t need a training table.
“But we have to acknowledge that times have changed and the Gug is outdated. It just is. To not acknowledge that is to set yourself up to fall behind.”
Irish Illustrated asked Polian to name the most important aspects of Notre Dame’s operation missing from the current Guglielmino Athletics Complex set-up.
“It’s very simple. When Notre Dame feeds the football team, they clear out the recruiting lounge,” Polian said. “They literally move the furniture, set up tables and folding chairs, and food that is prepared somewhere else on campus is brought over to the Gug. It’s elevatored up or carried up the stairs. The staff and the nutritionists do the best job they can.
“The juxtaposition is LSU where there’s a dedicated two-story dining facility that serves every student-athlete on campus. It’s connected to the football building. It is full service. The kitchen is right there. The food is fresh. There are plenty of choices.
“When you look at the way those two teams are fed, it’s dramatically different. That speaks to the student-athlete experience.”
Notre Dame remains unique in its history and combination of athletics and academics. That – plus 63 victories the last six seasons -- keeps Notre Dame’s competitiveness afloat. But the open-market bidding for players is creating a gap that will be difficult to close, let alone match.
How the players are fed isn’t a tangibly inhibiting factor in landing four- and five-star prospects. But it’s a shortcoming in the process of creating a national-championship caliber program, according to the former Irish assistant.
“Notre Dame will win the battle more times than not by saying, ‘Listen, you’re not coming here because of the dining facilities. You’re coming here because of the stage we play on, the degree, the alumni network and the brand recognition,’” Polian said.
“A lot of times that is enough to overcome the shortcomings in other areas. But not always. Often times, the difference is with a (highly-ranked football player) that makes a difference.
‘I’m not trying to be critical of the university or the administration. But these things are real. They’re not mythical. I think the fans sometimes think, ‘That stuff doesn’t matter.’ Yes, it does.”