New job is pretty sweet. Lots to learn but great atmosphere and group of people. Plus I get $500/month to spend at the restaurants so I can't complain about that.
Get the call today for interview round 1 on Monday. Believe there will be 2 possibly 3. Hopefully can make it through all 3 and get the job. Also got my annual raise today, a promotional raise on top of that would be a nice extra bonus. But I really want those 5 additional vacation days! Gonna take in some notes for the first time in an interview. So I don't just ramble when asking them questions/talking about how I'd help grow the dept. Normal occurrence in your all opinions? Only my 2nd job out of college and only about 4th interview. Didn't care much about the previous ones.
It's an accounting job and I work at the home office for a restaurant group that started here in Colorado
What does it mean to y'all when you're told they will backfill a position? That's what we were told in our Monday staff meeting in regards to my manager resigning suddenly last week.
I knew that. I just always wondered if there was a difference in filling a position and backfilling a position.
sounds to me like they are going to take someone already at the company and put them in it for the time being and not bring someone new on.
That's kind of what I thought but that position requires a lot of transportation experience, which I don't think we have as much of here.
the anticipation is killing me. i know it's only been a week, but i feel like things went well and i should hear something back soon.
got the offer today after work they offered what i asked for in my phone interview initially, i should have asked for higher. now i'm fucked right? as in, i can't counter offer if they matched my asking salary?
She said what's your expected salary? I said so and so number, but it's negotiable. She said ok, well that's within this position's range.
You kind of pigeonholed yourself, but I wouldn't feel bad about asking for a bit more. For future reference take that number you would normally say and give them an eh 'that number + 10-15k would work considering my current total compensation package'
yeah, agreed. either way, im getting out of a job i hate and i think this a good opportunity. it's still more than i'm making now by a small margin but enough to make the move.
Had a phone interview today that went amazingly...until we talked money and their max was about $20k less than I'm at now. We mutually agreed it didn't make sense to even proceed with the interview, but the HR person was upset that it wasn't going to work out.
do you think there is a good way to negotiate a couple more thousand into the offer using the benefits package as leverage, health ins premiums, deductibles, etc.? i didn't know the benefits before i gave my expected salary? not sure what would be a good way to word that if i tried.
Id basically just counter and say that. 'thanks for the offer I'm super excited Yada Yada. when discussing compensation during the interview process the number I provided was based on my current total compensation package of health, retirement, any other benefits etc. All things considered I would prefer to come in at a salary of X, can this be considered'
I've never had an employer consider benefits when negotiating a salary. My wife has a sweet insurance deal so I always decline the insurance at my job. I've pitched it as a cost savings, which should be rolled into my salary. Never worked for me.
Lots of places market a total compensation package as a selling point. If you had a great benefits before it can land you more salary, but I'm not surprised no one wants to give you extra money for not using their health care option
Nah. The worst that will happen is just a short email like 'our budget for this position is the offered x' Companies expect new hires to counter and anyone who would actually pull an offer for it should be a massive red flag for working there anyways
As long as you're reasonable and don't try to negotiate like five times, they won't pull an offer. It's tedious as shit to interview people and they won't want to lose a candidate over something completely normal. You shouldn't have named a salary tho.
yeah i know, i fucked up. i basically threw a number out that was reasonable b/c i wanted to gtfo of my current position/company. still more than what i make now, just not by much.
Disagree. I don't work in HR, but serve in a leadership position that has me interviewing and hiring frontline employees on a pretty regular clip. I can tell you that I'm trying to fill two open reqs right now and I requested HR to ask the candidate about salary expectations on the first call. If the job pays $50k, and you're expecting $100k, I'm not going to waste your time or mine. Nine times out of ten, what they ask for is irrelevant anyway. We have pay ranges determined by modeling and years of experience for the role; so if someone asks for $50k, and the formula says they should get $55k, their offer will be for $55k.
You give an expectation, not a hard number. If your number falls in their range then it's possible they offer you a bit less than they were planning because that's what you stated as an expected salary. We're not talking about just stone walling when they ask how much you expect, everyone appreciates the up front conversation to figure out if the salary range is OK
I know it happens, but there shouldn't be THAT much discrepancy between salary expectations with a serious candidate. The employer has a lot of leverage when it comes to setting pay and they're not all as static as it sounds like yours is.
I would venture that most companies beside non-profits or start-ups use the same modeling and analysis when it comes to compensation. At least all the companies I've worked for have. No company worth their salt is going to look at analysis that says a candidate deserves $55k, and offer $50k because they mentioned it on an application or a phone screening. That's not how you attract or retain talent.
Without knowing a single thing about the company I think it's a big leap to assume they have computer modeling that spit out a number that's exactly what he mentioned in the interview
Working at a large bank, I can tell you that's exactly what we do and it results in having a very hard time retaining top talent. We have salary ranges for each grade level but they are often about 40K wide. If a candidate says they expect 50K but we're paying someone 75K in the same role, then they'll very likely get offered 50K. Not that I do this when I'm hiring, but it's common practice throughout the company.
anyways, the recruiter said she'd pass along the information to the manger and let me know as soon as she heard back.
Anyone ever have to do a business psychologist interview before during the hiring process? Never had to do one and curious about others experience with them?
Also Ive only been with my current company for 6-7 months and the screening/interview process I am going through was due to a recruiter reaching out to me and I decided to see what they had to say. I have a follow up interview call with a more senior person tomorrow after passing the initial screening and two assessments and I havent been asked yet but Id be shocked if I wasnt tomorrow. The dreaded why are you wanting to leave your current position? Now I dont love my current company and I certainly have my reasons on why I am entertaining going to another company but I also am not sure I can share those without speaking negatively on my current employer. So basically not an option. I also dont hate my current company and I wasnt at the point of truly looking for something different, the only reason Im talking to them is because they reached out to me. Suggestions on how to best handle that situation? The positions are literally the exact same in title and seniority just different location, the pay raise that comes with switching companies I am expecting 5-10% increase plus cost of living increase depending on location. This company does have better benefits than my current company.
Didn't you just move to Connecticut for a new job? 'New challenge, exciting brand / reputation, location, better fit".
No...unfortunately it's someone else. Made it to the final round with coke and NCR for a sr analyst position....got the dreaded emails last week. This career change is turning out to be really tough.
Ah man sorry to hear that, I know all those feels though. eventually something will work out.. it did for me after getting to final rounds to a couple positions as well. I assume you're in ATL? what industry are you currently in?
Thanks man. In Atlanta.... Making the jump from accounting to finance. I think I may have to take a lateral move (salary wise) or remain patient for something to open up internally.