Damn that would have made me post way more funny in retrospect. I should consult you on these things prior to.
Interviewing with multiple places so I can have something lined up for this fall. It's exciting but also not fun to balance the anxiety of hoping to get offered one of the jobs with the anxiety of potentially managing multiple offers and hoping decision dates line up so I can choose my top choice.
Do any of you have experience leveraging a recently completed MBA with a current employer? I wrapped up an MBA and also a BI grad certificate in December. Trying to get something like a market check worked out w/annual reviews, but not super hopeful. I like my job and company pretty well and would be torn leaving to fully realize some of the opportunities I'm now more eligible for.
I'd be sure to have that convo earlier than your annual review... just so they can plan to put your increase in the budget. And what was the point of an MBA if your aren't getting an MBA bump in $???? Go get paid my man.
I've already had a pretty good discussion with my leadership about an increase a month or so ago. I can see the corporate America 'you've already been doing the job' argument as well as mine. Sounds like they'll try to do something for me but we'll see. Was curious if anyone has been in the same boat. But yeah if nothing works out I guess I'd have to explore some options.
I’ll be done with my MBA this December and to be honest I doubt I’ll get a bump and I won’t be switching jobs relatively soon after (internally at least) as I just took the one I’m in now a few months ago. That being said, without the MBA my growth would have been limited. I’ll probably have the discussion with my boss to at least try and get a bump, but they paid for the MBA and I’m better off for it even if I don’t get a pay bump.
So, I’m in a pretty crappy situation. Back in January I applied for a job with one of the world's largest companies for a job that sounded amazing. First call from a recruiter went well. But he told me that for this role, it’d probably be a lateral move for my salary. However, it is bonus eligible and my current place hasn’t given out bonuses in years due to poor company performance, so I kept going through the process. My thought was that the size of this new organization afforded me so much room to grow and opportunity that it would be worth leaving for a flat salary. Anyway, I have a follow-up call with the hiring manager, then an in-person day-long interview where I met and was interviewed by many people above and below this role. Recruiter tells me that’s the last step and a decision will be made soon. Then I hear they are down to two candidates, me being one of them, and they want to do a case study exercise. I wasn’t happy about another round, so I speak with the recruiter and ask him again to be clear on salary because our last talk was a little vague and this is getting pretty extensive. He tells me yes, they can get to where I’m at currently and there’s likely some wiggle to flex up a bit. I go through the exercise and learn a few days later they are offering me the job but need to work with compensation on developing the written offer. I’m very excited because I’m looking at this as nearly a dream job. And while I’m not dumb enough to tell anyone at work I’m leaving, I’m mentally checked out already. Followed up with recruiter a few days later and the offer still isn’t ready. I start to get concerned that something seems off. I speak with her again yesterday and learn that “something happened” since the last time we talked and that they “don’t think they can even match my salary anymore.” They’re working to get the title upgraded to the next level up to accommodate my salary and give me a bump, but it’s not looking good. I’m not a kid with no experience, and this isn’t my first job. I’ve hired tons of people in my career and always have a sense of what the budget and salary range is, so this has never happened to me when sitting on the offer side. I’m really perplexed and incredibly bummed because I want the job badly, but I’m not taking a pay cut for it.
Sounds like some unprofessional and borderline unethical behavior by either the recruiter or the hiring manager where you applied. They knew what you needed for salary the whole time and strung it along. I doubt their budget got cut in March. I hope it works out, but I don’t blame you for being annoyed and disappointed.
I wanna do something totally different. How do you find job listings of exotic shit like teaching English overseas or working on a fishing boat
Agreed. Part of me feels like this would be such a bad look for them that they have to try and find a way to make either the salary or title change work. But then part of me thinks if that was going to happen, it would have happened days ago.
Personal preference on region is the biggest thing. central america? Europe? Southeast asia? China? Korea?
I looked into it a lot, and was pretty far down the road, but just couldn't take the plunge. Regardless of where you go, first step is to get a TEFL (teaching english as a foreign language) certificate. You can do this in the states/online or in the country you want to work. It generally helps to do the latter because a lot of the schools will recruit/hire directly from the school that gives you the certificate. If you're a native english speaker, with any semblance of an education background, there's a better than 95% chance of getting a job. You probably won't make much money ($10-15K/year), but the cost of living is so much lower you can still live comfortably, you just won't really be able to save anything. I believe Korea and Taiwan give you more money, but I was looking primarily at SE Asia (Thailand/Vietnam/Cambodia/etc.). Jake Barnes taught for several years outside of Seoul and can probably elaborate more, I know he really enjoyed it. If you're serious, need to narrow down specifically where you want to go and then look into that country's TEFL schools. Edit: if you do enough research, you'll see plenty of ads and stories of people working at schools that didn't have to get a TEFL certificate. From everything I read this is kind of a scam, they can refuse to pay you, just a whole bunch of issues. Of course, this is only what I read online, so take it with a grain of salt, but I'd want to do it the right way.
Corporate recruiter. The whole thing is odd. On two separate occasions he assured me they could at least match where I am, and now something changes.
I have a masters in education right now, it's just not tefl. And I've taught classes and tutored but idk what that qualifies me for
Well if it's GE, their HR/Recruitment is awful. I interviewed with them awhile ago, kept getting left hung on how the interview went/status, then like 6 months later (after never hearing anything) I get a survey in my email inbox asking for my opinion on how the whole process went. Lol.
Re: finding international jobs, I decided to Facebook message someone I know that's done some before. We'll see what he says
I taught in Prague for a while. Did my TEFL course there and then was hired directly from that. Didn't make much and spent everything I made on travel, but I wasn't looking to build a nest egg with this job or anything.
You can teach English as a foreign language basically anywhere in the world that doesn't speak it as a primary language. Was why I was saying determine a region that interests you
Any former Soviet country has a need for English teachers since everyone over the age of 45-50 only learned Russian in school. I should clarify that I taught English in businesses rather than young kids.
You know lots about the world and what you like I'd personally do southeast Asia but there's cool shit everywhere
Ok, southeast Asia. What next? I remember when I was in Taiwan they were acting like it was in high demand
It's in high demand basically everywhere. Chiang Mai, Cambodia, or vietnam would be my choices. There are plenty of programs that facilitate it
From my research a few years ago, Taiwan pays the most, and isn't a developing country, the big cities are incredibly modern. Re: SE Asia, I'd really only consider Thailand and Vietnam. Cambodia is incredibly poor (not sure if it's an actual 3rd world country, but it's right on the edge). Don't know much about Laos, but I think it's the same. Myanmar's current political crisis makes it kind of a non-starter. Thailand and Vietnam are pretty developed and have good infrastructure.
Negative. Smoke a bowl, turn on the interwebs, google "TEFL in [insert country here]" and go down the rabbit hole.