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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Jax Teller, Oct 18, 2011.
I've done that with freelance opportunities.
That's why it's a great idea to let your recruiter every thought and concern you have at all time.
Yep. My best relationships are with those that are most transparent. I’m very transparent and I think that’s appreciated and reciprocated.
When you say recruiter, do you mean someone that works at a staffing agency? I have only dealt with HR people at the place I've accepted the offer.
The interview process started back in January and I just received a start date of late April. As far as the other place, I had a phone interview earlier this week and will talk to the hiring manager early next week. Should I tell him that I have an open offer at another place, but feel I'm a better fit for his open role, so expediting the process if possible would be helpful?
Yep- I’m an External Recruiter. I was assuming that’s what you were referring to.
My first thought is Company A is dumb for dragging the process out four months and allowing you to be courted by another Company.
Have you already accepted an offer or just received one?
Mine is / was a rockstar. I've met 3 great one. The great ones will tell you things like
- I've sent 4 ppl here and they're still there and have moved around pretty easily
- it'll be a substantial pay raise but long hours
- you'll be talking to me again in a year,but it'll boost your career
-the managers tough but you'll learn a lot and if you earn her trust you'll get promoted quickly
Accepted two weeks ago, but was told it was conditional until drug test and fingerprints had been taken. Completed that on Monday. Start date was locked in today. I live in Florida and both the offer and other possible position are on the west coast.
Yeah, that’s a tough spot.
I want to tell you to just tell Company B you’ve made a commitment and to stick with Company A.
I also don’t know your entire situation, so it’s hard to be passionate on that stance.
Why is Company B considerable? Why’d you accept Company A?
Chose Company A because it got me to the west coast. Large increase in pay. Increase in vacation. Only detractors are possible limited upward mobility and it's not much different from what I had done in the past. Also, I don't know think my responsibilities with this new role will be much of a resume booster.
Company B is a more senior role with definite movement opportunities within the company. Office location is a bit more desirable. If Company B happens to offer 10%+ more, I think I would jump. Other than that, I'm going to stay. Or maybe they'll make it easy for me and tell me no.
Congrats on getting out of this hell hole.
Thanks man. Been trying since October to get to the west coast with little luck, but have received offers/increased interest over the past few months. I'm excited.
This is some grade A malarchy. 99.9% of the time the hiring manager and his manager will have no say in a downturn what happens to you.
The company is making no commitment to you. If shit goes down tomorrow and they feel like they need to cut you they will in a heartbeat.
This scam of “company loyalty” was crafted by some smart MFers to reduce turnover in the work place.
*Almost* Advising someone to stay with what they obviously believe to be the worse of two options for themselves gets a big yikes from me. (None of which says he/you/anyone ideally wouldn’t commit to a opp without knowing for sure but as they company would surely tell you “shit happens”.
This comes from someone that in the past year has interviewed 150+ candidates for 30+ roles as the hiring manager (COO) for a service company. Roles from medical front desk scheduling (low level) to the director of financial planning and analysis. Someone that benefits from people who think that if they are loyal to the company, the company will be loyal back.
It’s epically clear that B is a way better opportunity. Better location, better mobility, likely better pay.
It’s also equally clear that A was just an escape hatch to get away from some place you wanted to be. It’s ok. Tell them you’re very sorry and throw up the deuces.
Company A offer is actually really good though. 45% increase in salary. 12 more vacation days, which is now at 36. I’m not taking Company A just because it gets me out of Florida. I’ve turned down three (decent/meh) offers in the last four months. However, this one was too good.
My only holdup is that I’ve moved somewhat frequently in the last three years and don’t think staying at my next job for 12-18 months will look too good.
48 vacation days and a 50% pay increase? No question you made the right decision
My mistake. 12 more vacation days, which would put me at 36. 24 to 36, so a 50% increase.
What state we talking here?
It’s better than your current situation but not as good as company B correct? That’s all I’m saying.
In fact if I were you, and I haven’t read back up to make sure this is accurate, but if you’re still in the process with company b I would be very straightforward with Company B and tell them that you have an offer from a company a that you are about to accept unless they can fast-track your process and get you an offer letter ASAP that way you can find some immediate closure with Company B and you don’t risk losing company A.
My biggest point is don’t take opportunity a because you got excited and said yes maybe before you should have, if opportunity b is a better one. You have to do what’s best for yourself.
California. So that salary increase percentage won’t look as good when it’s on my paystub.
Yeah, I think I’m going to tell the hiring manager that I have a phone interview with next week that I have an outstanding offer. Hopefully that will force their hand and help me in deciding.
Yeah. Granted this was almost a decade ago, but when I (and the rest of my immediate family) moved out of California for good, I took a job making the same in Florida and my take home went up 15%. Great place to live once you get over the cost.
When is your start date for Company A? Have you signed the formal offer letter? Are you making Company A wait? Be careful about waiting. I might be wrong but if you sit on it too long, they could pull it from you. I haven't dealt with something like this, but I feel like this is something that does and could happen.
I feel like most offer letters, from larger corporations anyway, have an expiration listed.
Thanks for the reply, all very good things to think about that I hadn't even thought about. I may just PM you with more details/questions once I get more after my on-site interview next week.
My first interview (Skype) with Company A was in January. I signed some conditional offer paperwork over the past seven days. Didn’t get an official start date (4/23) until yesterday.
I have been the aggressor to this point as far as timeline goes. They definitely haven’t waited on me at all. Although I tried pushing the start date out as far as possible because time off in between jobs is spring/summer break for grown folk.
Call with HR > Skype > phone with manager > in person panel
After I left my first ever real job I took 3 weeks off before starting my new one. What I didnt realize was my old job paid 2 days after the cycle ended, so the cycle ended on Wednesday you got paid on Friday. My new job paid two weeks in arrears. 22 year old TTWY'all not realizing/not planning this caused quite the pinch for basically 5 weeks with no pay.
What are everyone’s thoughts on online MBAs?
I got a 100% on my friends online finance quiz yesterday and I haven’t been in college for 5 years
Depends on the school. Would a potential hiring manager view the name of the school postively?
UF, UNC, indiana ,etc are good.
Southern New Hampshire, Keller, etc are not
Yeah I guess I should’ve clarified. Definitely not talking Phoenix or whatever
So update, got 2 calls back out of 3 applications. Today have on-site interview for Job #1, already had 2 phone interviews last week. Job #2, phone interview scheduled tomorrow. Job #3, nothing yet, but that's ok. Things are looking up.
Has this thread discussed what the limits are on how many recruiters to use? Is 3 too much?
What do you guys do about your current job when scheduling interviews?
My old job had rotating schedules so I’d often have a couple weekdays off. Now that I work M-F, do I need to burn a vacation day? Find an excuse to get out of the office for a while?
-remodeling at home...gotta let contractor in...thinking about selling the house
-doctor / eye doctor / dentist
*also, start mixing in white shirts with dark slacks before you start interviewing if you really need it to be confidential and don't leave your suit jacket anywhere except the trunk.
Source: Me. I've successfully gone across the street for a new job undetected when I needed it to be undetected.
Days like today......21 years at a company that my pops helped make as good as it is today and they cut him loose. Two years from retiring and 60 years old. Seems like they have been pushing him out for two years.
For those in the legal profession how hard is a claim for a hostile work environment? This kind of bullshit and companies wonder why folks run to money instead of staying loyal.
Loved showing up to work in slacks and a button up when I normally wear shorts and a polo. No shame in my game.
Yeah ever since we went from business casual to whatever jeans plus a collar is called I would have to take off work.
That being said my position is pretty flexible and my boss doesn’t work in my office so everyone would probably just assume I’m traveling if I didn’t show up one day
Manufacturing. Has run production and quality control at various points over his time there.
Odd, I work in automotive manufacturing and you have to be caught fucking on your desk or stealing company time or property to get fired here.
Looking to possibly make a move?
If it’s to a company that condones fucking on your desk shoot me a PM
Yeah not where he is.
That sucks, sorry for him.
Yeah. Was so close to retiring.....wanted to work for a couple more years for the insurance and pad the 401k more. I don’t imagine the labor market for someone in that profile is very vast but we will see.
Also automotive manufacturing. The automotive field is ridiculous. Came into it a year ago with no background and what I have learned, anything the OEMs say is gospel and nobody will question it.
Interviews are just the WOAT
What’s the etiquette on sending a thank you email after interviews? Is that still a thing or nah?
I think you take the 5 minutes and do it. Time is money and if you get someone else's time, in any capacity, I believe it is worth it.
Until you figure out they are a piece of shit.