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Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Jax Teller, Oct 18, 2011.
Thank you sir.
Just applied to a job with Delta in ATL. I’m sure they get hundreds of resumes but we shall see.
Good luck. Working for an airline and having nonrev privileges is a blast. If I could go back I would in a second. The jobs away from a hub just aren't financially feasible for me tho.
How’d it go, Shawn?
Wow killer brag about having job options.
Got the job. Benefits are pretty lame but the pay will be pretty decent, at least compared to what I have made in all my other jobs. They asked what salary I was looking for, can't remember what I said, but they said it would be more than what I said, which is significantly more than what I make now and will for sure be several thousand more than the last job I had that I quit on.
Will get the chance to do some writing as part of the job, and the boss at my last job said I wasn't a good enough writer for the job I wanted, which everyone there agreed was absurd. So suck my dick former boss.
Mazel. Very happy for you.
Catching up with this thread but the recruiting industry so grimey and cut throat. I work w them in my current role.
When youre working w them as a candidate, always keep in mind you’re the product for them, not the customer.
My wife works for Delta and it's glorious. They're talking about a new role and promotion that would get us 8 confirmed flights per year and Sky Club access for every flight which I get even when she's not with me. I really need her to get this job so I can look down on all the peasants stuck in the regular terminal area
Any chance she has any contacts in HR or legal? I'll be your best e-friend if so!
She's in marketing so I doubt it
Whatever you do, work in the phrase “be kind, ask before you recline.”
Was definitely spoiled in previous job searches along with this being the first time I was forced to look outside of after college. I had what felt like a pretty good interview Friday but I'm worried that since it's a mid level position and I've spent the last like 5 years in a sr level (for my job type) that they will feel I'm over qualified or they can't match what I was making. Is that a legitimate concern from my end?
I’ve gotten grilled when I was going from a leadership position to an individual contributor. It feels like they’re suspicious. I just wanted to get back into the day to day after burning out on the politics.
Yea I told them I know for this position they won't be able to match what I was making but that I'm ok with that.
And i hate the expected salary question. It always feels like I'm either gonna price myself out of it or undervalue myself. Thank god my wife is a compensation business partner. She looks up all the salary information for me.
I feel like most people over think this. You just have to go in knowing what your floor is for what youre willing to take as a salary. If they can meet that, great, if not - dont short change yourself. You'll likely be unhappy in that job/salary anyway.
That's easier said than done, when youre out of work and need a job, but something to keep in mind.
When I retired from guvmunt work that was the first thing they asked when I interviewed at Aria. “Hey, you had a pretty powerful position and ran a large organization...why are you interested in this position?”
“All of that is behind me. I have no intention of ever climbing the ladder again. I specifically want a role where I do not manage subordinates and have a lot of independence in choosing what to do on a day to day basis.”
Yea I've had a lot of folks tell me that but like you said. It's easier said than done when you're out of work.
Feel free to ask the company what they budgeted to the role vs saying what you want to make.
In my world (tech sales) people go from management back to being an individual all the time. Managing sales people can really suck and the money can be much better for individuals in good years. I’d be honest about why but also confirm they’re good with your reasons and don’t see it as a disqualifying factor. Just ask.
I ran a team for 2 years and hated it. Took the opportunity to back to an individual sales role during a realignment and havent regretted it once.
I was the opposite. In my last job before starting my own business, I went from managing 14 to being an individual contributor and I hated it. I missed the responsibility and the act of leading.
I have the best of both worlds now. I’m kind of like Dwight. Help out a lot w stuff I like - interviewing, mentoring new people, being the ‘closer’ on some deals (as cringey as that sounds). I get the recognition/ benefits of that without having to sit through business plan presentations, nagging people about sales force entries, pipeline funnels ect.
yea I’m four years in, run a team of 12 across the country. I enjoy the coaching aspects but beyond that I’m growing tired of all the internal crap I have to deal with.
Of course as I get more removed from being a rep the better I remember I was lol. My hope would be I’ve picked up a lot of skills that would enable me to be successful as an individual again. I’ll probably stick this role out but my next job will likely be as an individual. Whether that’s 6 months or 2-3 years from now who knows.
This is me rn. The daily stuff is so so easy and boring. I went from being at 150% capacity on a good day to 15%. Stupid move, but hey now I know better.
Current employer just offered me a 25% raise to try to get me to stay but it’s still the equivalent of approximately $8 less an hour. Would be nice if they could match so I could get into a good ole fashion bidding war.
Don’t do it. You wanted to leave for a reason — don’t forget that.
I turned it down immediately
Though I admit I was impressed the district manager made the offer. And I’m pretty sure that salary raise would have me making more than some people above me on the org chart. They must be getting desperate.
Or they’re drastically underpaying everyone
Didn't ever notice this thread. I was let go from my last designer position in November, been peddling small freelance projects while applying (terrible holiday timing). Anyways, after probably 90 apps and 15-ish interviews, I was offered two positions. One was the same ol' graphic designer for $58k with benefits bla bla. The other was a UX Designer (the direction I want to take my career)/some graphic design role that was much more startup and wasn't sure about filling out a full 40 hours a week, hourly rate somewhere around $30 plus or minus. I presented the UX hiring guy with the idea of doing that role on the side as the stability and lack of defined benefits was worrisome. Didn't seem to want to go for it on (last) Thu morning but I gave him an artificial deadline of (last) Friday to offer me something before I had to give an answer to the graphic designer company. After he slept on it, he said take that job and we can still work with you, 15-20 hours a week 1099 style.
So I've gone from a shit-tier ~$43k at the last full time job (very underpaid, in retrospect) to 58k + stable benefits and potential quarterly bonuses ranging from 3% to 5% + 15-20 hours a week of UX work at, yes, a discounted $25/hr (underpaid but I need the experience, mentorship, and real world projects for my portfolio). This all adds up to a total compensation in the range of 74-80k. I'm going to be working hard as hell but I have just busted through the ceiling, nearly doubling my pay and getting a foot in the door for the UX field. By the time I leave Phoenix around the end of 2021, I will have relative asstons of savings and a strong enough UX portfolio to land something really good in Austin.
I hope everyone else searching in this thread has similar success.
It just wouldn’t be retail if they weren’t.
Smh today was one of those days I question why I ever got into management. Might be sooner than later I head back to being a remote individual just doing my own thing.
Not sure how much more I can worry about this many people all the damn time. Driving me insane.
Random advice that may be helpful or not:
Make some good restaurant/bar/nightclub contacts and underbid whoever they are currently using for some freelance work on the weekends if time allows.
I have to get a ton of flyers and menu revisions made every week as does everyone else in this business. My main graphic designer has a full-time weekday job then spends his Sundays making flyers for the week for a few hospitality groups - conservatively he's making another $750-1000 every weekend.
May not be the same in every market - but just a thought of another possible revenue stream for anyone in that space.
Thought you killed your internet self.
I'll still weigh in if I think it's actually benefiting someone personally. Just no more anecdotes.
So my current employer says I have to work one day on the next pay period to be able to get my vacation pay because they had already submitted that Friday would be my last day and I can’t take vacation after my last day. So they have to extend me another week once this week ends so I can use it. So I got them to schedule me for a four-hour shift on the easiest job on the slowest day so I can get a weeks worth of vacation pay. So they are basically using a loophole to get me my vacation pay instead of me just being screwed out of it.
I thought companies had to pay out any PTO you had accrued. If that’s true, they’re doing no favors and just covering their ass due to a mistake they made.
It varies based on state law, and Virginia has no law on the books requiring employers to do it. There isn’t even a law saying if a company needs to have a policy on it. Only thing covered by the law is that a company has to abide by their policy/contracts in regards to PTO upon leaving.
So the GM is basically doing me a favor by using that loophole. As sad as that is, but the corporate policy is they don’t pay out unused accrued PTO.
Have sales territories open in DFW & OK/AR that I need to fill
I’ll sell it.
What exactly is ‘it’?
Dildos. You seem like a great “fit,” if you catch my drift.
what field we talking here? Know a lot of people in the area might be able to help.
Pool & Spa industry, but more interested in outside sales experience than I am industry experience. It’s a plus, but not a deal killer.
Are we selling to super bowl winners?
So no dome teams, significantly narrows down my pool of potential candidates.