NSIAP Where were you on 9/11/01

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  1. Bo Pelinis

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    Went to ground zero in May. Didn’t do the museum because I only had a day in the city. Seeing all the names on the memorial was enough.

    The other thing was that struck me were the trees around the memorial. They’re pretty big. It feels like it’s been no time since 2001 but it’s been 17 years.
     
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    My friend from the army called and woke me up, was in bed with my gf (now wife). Turned the tv on and saw the 2nd plane hit. Went ahead and went to my first class that day. It was very small class where almost every other student and the teacher were from middle east. Professor made a distasteful joke about flying and I walked out of class. He was actually a good dude (although very goofy), think he was just desensitized to terrorism. Spent the rest of the day watching the news.
     
  3. sam shakusky

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    7th grade library period. We had these pocket sized remote control cars that we would drag race for $0.25 per race during recess.. I had just purchased a Fast and the Furious upgrade kit for my main racecar so I was doing some fine tuning when the news broke. We watched the coverage on TV until about 10:30 AM when Frank fucking Martinez's mom complained that it would scar us and made us turn it off. Fuck that lady.
     
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    Was working as a baker at Schlotzsky's Deli because I had gotten not so great grades in my last semester and was, shall we say, taking a break from college. Batshit crazy lady who sliced the meats and cheeses always listened to a radio as she worked, and she started talking crazy about a plane hitting the WTC and going about her batshit type behavior. At first I didn't think much of it, but obviously that changed fairly quickly.

    Was also working as a pizza delivery driver at night. (re: loser) Truck was on 'E' so had to pay a shit-ton for gas that evening cuz prices spiked instantly. That was a very busy night for delivery pizza.
     
  5. dukebuckeye

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    Morning.

    A number of readers have asked me to share my recollection of 9/11. It is not one that differs from stories you have probably read before and it’s kind of long, but here it is, nonetheless.

    To get right to it, on Tuesday, September 11th, 2001, I was sitting at my desk at CITI interviewing a young lady for an internship position when the first plane hit the North Tower at 8:46 AM.

    Citigroup’s 390 Greenwich Street offices were only 10 blocks north of the Trade Center, so the explosion shook our building and surprised/confused everyone on the trading floor.

    Some people left the desk right away, but the traders all stayed and huddled around the multiple TV’s that hung from every wall, and we speculated on whether or not this was an accident.

    A gentleman named George Levine, who was our Bloomberg rep, said it must’ve been a pilot who fell asleep at the wheel, but my closest friend on the desk said, “No… That was terrorists.” Which isn’t something people just assumed back then. Nowadays, people think an M-80 going off in a schoolyard is potentially the work of an ISIS sleeper cell, but you could say we were more innocent in 2001.

    But that innocence was about to be taken.

    My memory is hazy, but I think CITI was in the process of evacuating people not soon after that first plane hit. Even without their evacuation, there were a number of people on the street outside of our office who had a perfect vantage point to view the hole that was left in the tower because that first plane approached from the north. Everyone who was on the street north of the WTC were looking up and saw firsthand as the second plane flew into the South Tower at 9:03 AM. That plane entered in from the south, but the blast was visible from all vantage points

    It was at that moment that people stopped questioning the reasons for those crashes. We all knew we were under attack.

    I did not see the second plane hit because I never left the desk. My wife, Annie, was relatively safe even though she was only 3 blocks south of the Trade Center, on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange, but the rest of her family wasn’t so lucky.

    I have mentioned before on the radio, and on podcasts that my wife and I met when we were working together on the floor. I deferred admission to law school and took a job on the American Stock Exchange in September of 1993, not soon after I had graduated college.

    My initial job was as a specialist clerk for an equity specialist called Goin & Company, and the first specialist I clerked for was an absolute monster named Ric Harvey. I say “monster” because Ric had a reputation of being brutal on his clerks. The floor was a world all to itself, and the rules of corporate decorum or harassment did not apply there. The hazing was incessant, and, as a result, people actually got good at their jobs. I am not saying that atmosphere was right for everyone, but I am saying 2 things:

    1) It was right for me.

    2) It is not right for most of the kids graduating college today.

    Anyhoo, I was put in with Ric because he chewed through another couple clerks and I was fresh meat. I was by no means the most talented young person at that post, but I was cool with the challenge of working for Ric.

    He fucking crushed me for months, but we eventually developed a mutual respect for each other personally, and we were able to get to a point professionally where we efficiently robbed the investment community on a daily basis. He went from being a monster to being a mentor and my friend, and no other individual had taught me more about the business than Ric Harvey.

    Ric had a daughter who worked in the industry, but she worked for his operation on the New York Stock Exchange, so I rarely saw her.

    When I did see her, I was bagging what she was raking, but I barely made eye contact because I was terrified of her dad. If it wasn’t for her aggressive pursuit of the big man (I was too much of a coward to ever ask her on a date), we would’ve never started dating behind his back.

    Next year we will be married 20 years with 3 beautifully expensive kids.

    One of the best things about the company my wife and I worked for, was the multiple expense accounts we had around Wall Street and the relationship our firm had with Windows On The World. Windows was the restaurant at the top of the North Tower of the World Trade Center.

    Ric was one of a handful of members of the “Wild Blue” club at Windows, so we had wine tastings and special theme dinners there often to entertain clients. On top of that, members of Ric’s company from both the American Stock Exchange (AMEX) and New York Stock Exchange (NYSE) met at Windowsevery Tuesday morning for a company breakfast meeting. It was more “breakfast” and less “meeting”, but everyone showed up if they could, and had a great morning meal in a place that had the best view of Manhattan in the world. A view that even made New Jersey look good.

    Annie and I had gone to these breakfasts often. Even after I had left the firm, I would still go for the free meal, and to bullshit with all the guys I started in the biz with. One of those guys, Bob Twomey, was Annie’s uncle. He was married to Ric’s sister. Uncle Bob was my favorite guy in the business and a guy that I enjoyed immensely. He was smart. He was edgy. He was funny. He was my favorite in-law.

    So if you fast forward from the mid 90’s to 2001, Annie and I were married, I was no longer working for her dad, we had no children yet, but we recently relocated back to NY after a year stint in Atlanta. I was working for CITI at 390 Greenwich, and my wife went back to work on the NYSE for her dad.

    We lived in Brooklyn, we were both making pretty good dough, and we were very very happy.

    Every Tuesday, Annie would still do breakfasts at Windows, but Monday, September 10th, 2001, she went to the dentist and had a root canal (thank fucking God). Tuesday morning, she decided to skip breakfast. Instead, we drove into Manhattan together. I dropped her of at the NYSE, and then I went up to my office.

    So knowing this little tidbit about Windows every Tuesday, you now know that when I watched a plane hit the North Tower, and my wife watched the same footage on the floor of the NYSE, we both knew there was a very good chance a handful of people we cared about very much were somewhere above the blast.

    Which goes back to why even after CITI evacuated 390 Greenwich St, I was still at my desk. I was trying desperately to get in touch with my wife or any of the 7 guys who were killed at breakfast, so some fat security guard had very little chance in getting me to leave.

    The only other person on the trading floor after the evacuation was the douchebag who ran equities back then. And whereas I refused to leave because I was trying to track down people I was sure were dead or on fire, he was there calling every customer on his phone turret to assure them we would be making aggressive 2 way markets once all the smoke cleared.

    This manager had no clue of the scope of the devastation that was occurring, but I still remember the dichotomy between my motivation to be there and his, and it always stuck with me.

    The phones soon became useless, so I left 390 Greenwich and tried to get South to meet my wife. Through dedicated wires CITI had to the NYSE, I was able to talk to her directly. We agreed to meet at the Downtown Athletic Club.

    She should’ve been hysterical because she knew what was potentially happening, but she wasn’t. She is just a tough-ass bitch.

    As I walked South on the West Side Highway, I got just below Stuyvesant, but all the way west along the Hudson River, when the South Tower fell at 9:59 AM.

    It was the most scared I have ever been. Crowds of us started to run to the water with a cloud of ash and dust closing in behind us. A cop dropped his gun in front of me, and I bent down to grab it (because I always wanted a gun), but it slipped through my fingers, so I continued to run until I got to the water. It was only then did I turn around.

    When I turned, the Twin Towers lost a twin, and I was absolutely dumb founded.

    There was no longer any way to get south, so I went north again and tried to get in touch with my wife. Cell phones SUCKED back then, but through leaving messages at my parents’ house, we communicated that we would try to get to one of the bridges leading into Brooklyn and meet on the Brooklyn side.

    Then the North Tower fell at 10:28AM… 102 minutes after being struck by Flight 11. And with that collapse went the lives of many, including Emeric Harvey, Robert Twomey, Mike Pascuma Jr, Pat Dickinson, Bobby Sutcliffe, Tommy Sullivan, and Rudy Bacchus… All employees of a small $2 Broker/Specialist that gave me my break into the business- Harvey, Young, and Yurman.

    I started running again. This time I ran east. I got across the Manhattan Bridge and we eventually met up on the other side.

    I will stop right now to tell you that 9/11 was an absolute honey of a day weather-wise… Clear skies, sun shining, with a slight breeze. Not sure why I mention that, but I didn’t really remember that ’til just now… It was a perfect day until it wasn’t.

    The day after 9/11, Annie and I were among the THOUSANDS of Americans who were desperate to find if their friends or relatives were somehow miraculous survivors. There were rumors that dozens of people were rushed out of NYC to neighboring hospitals and the sheer volume of wounded made it impossible for hospitals to inform every family or friend that their loved one was there recovering.

    I don’t think those rumors were true, but they effectively gave those same thousands false hope that there were more survivors than there actually was.

    My wife and I went into the New York City Armory on Thursday and went through lists of names of people whose bodies were recovered. We were looking for the 7 from her dad’s company, plus 2 other former employees who unfortunately were in the towers working for Alger- Mike Tamuccio and my close buddy, John Schroeder. Mike was a specialist at one point for Goin & Company while I was there as a clerk, and John and I were $2 brokers for my father-in-law before he (and Mike) left to work for Alger.

    I won’t get too much into the details of the immediate search, because it is personal to people I love, but while we were at the Armory, a reporter for FOX NEWS approached Annie and asked her to come on that night with pictures to tell her story. We went home and grabbed our wedding album, because all 9 of the missing were at our wedding just 2 years prior.

    Annie went on FOX and told her story. She held up pictures of the missing gents in hopes that someone would have info or really ANYTHING that could help our search.

    We wouldn’t learn until much later that the majority of the pics Annie held up also had me in them, so when we showed up at the eventual funerals for other 9/11 victims, there were some people at those services who looked at me like they had seen a ghost. They had seen Annie on TV with all these pics of me and other guys, and just assumed I was among the missing/dead. I mention only because it was crazy to walk into funeral parlors on multiple occasions, only to have old friends shout, “He’s alive!”… I kind of felt like a fat Jesus.

    It wasn’t until much later that John Mulheren stepped in and helped out in the dissolution of some of my father-in-law’s businesses, but within a week, another of Ric’s acquaintances reached out and gave me painful news that we needed to hear.

    It was a gentleman named Jules Roinnel. Jules was the director of Windows On The World. Jules was not there for the breakfast shift that day, but he knew Ric’s crew was in attendance. He also knew that everyone who had relatives or friends at Windows were probably still hanging on to hope that they got out alive.

    Jules and I were close from when I worked for Ric. He called to tell me that the opposite was true, and that everyone above the blast was killed. The plane entered the building and caused a hole containing a thousand degree jet-fuel fire that separated anyone above the blast from any possible escape route below.

    Jules essentially was the first to bring us back to reality. I gathered the family and we came to the conclusion that finding people alive was no longer realistic, so we would officially start to mourn and also work at finding bodies to bury.

    My wife, her sister, and her mom went to the medical examiner’s office and got swabbed… The recovery team there were able to isolate my mother-in-laws DNA from the swab, and then deleted it from the girls’ DNA, and were left with a DNA sample of my father-in-law that they could use to find remains.

    It took over 9 months, but they did find enough for us to cremate.

    Even before they found remains, the NYSE and AMEX jointly memorialized all 9 gents in a ceremony in St Patrick’s Cathedral. Annie was the sole speaker at the ceremony, where she eulogized all of them in front of a standing-room-only crowd of thousands.

    She stood up there and gave all 9 a respectful and heartfelt speech, while I stood behind her and cried like a fucking baby.

    In the weeks and months after 9/11, my family had heard stories about Middle Eastern groups in Brooklyn or maybe Queens who were dancing in the streets, celebrating the deaths that their countrymen were responsible for. I don’t know if any of those stories were true, and I really don’t care. My wife and I would never judge the character of many by the actions of a few.

    But we did have a deep seated hatred for Osama Bin Laden and the terrorist organizations he was linked to. That is why I made such a big deal about interviewing Rob O’Neill last week… That guy killed the guy that killed my father-in-law. Therefore, he is a real hero to me, and more importantly, to Annie.

    I say this again- I only wrote this account because a number of readers have asked me to share the story. It is not one that differs from stories you have probably read before. Annie lost her dad and uncle and 7 fellow employee/friends that she worked with since she was a teenager, but I am fully aware that our family’s losses are not greater than the losses of thousands of others.

    To inject myself into this blog before closing, I will tell you a couple things:

    – I do a trite and vapid little repeat content subject called “I HATE NY” on Mondays, which is totally forced and fabricated for effect. But I will tell you honestly that I fucking HATE the anniversary of 9/11. If my dad were to ever die in a car crash, I would execrate all the major networks if they ran traffic-cam footage of that deadly crash over-and-over again on the anniversary of his death. Similarly, my wife and kids basically get to see a plane crash into their father/grandfather over-and-over again once a year.

    – I love that Towers of Light thing they do and that 9/11 museum in Ground Zero is extraordinary, but I hate the look of the new Freedom Tower. I don’t know why they didn’t just build two new and improved towers… One 9 feet taller, and the other 11 feet taller. And they would just look like 2 giant middle fingers pointing right at the Middle East.

    – I do not eat Halal on 9/11 nor sushi on 12/7, but that’s just because I am weird.

    – If you are ever in downtown Manhattan and are on Thames Street between Greenwich Street and Trinity Place, that block is named Emeric Harvey Place after my father-in-law. It’s located off the corner of the AMEX where he worked for almost 35 years, and where I started my mediocre career in finance.

    – I know it would be nearly impossible to make 9/11 a national holiday, but it’s a holiday for me, so I am going to drop the kids off at school in a bit and day drink with the bride someplace where there are no TV’s… Talk to you guys tomorrow.

    Rest in peace, Ric.

    Take a report.

    -Large
     
  6. dukebuckeye

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    We still had middle school football practice after school that day and it still kinda irks me.
     
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  9. herb.burdette

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    We visited for the first time this past Spring. They had a dark room, where you sat down, as voice mail messages played. Voice mails from first responders to their spouses, voice mails from people in the buildings.

    One of the voice mails was from someone who sounded mid20’s, telling his mom that he was in the tower that wasn’t hit but that he was alright. He was going to finish what he was doing and then leave.

    People were crying as they were walking out of that room.

    It is one of the most powerful museum exhibits I have ever seen.
     
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  10. BrickTamland

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    I’m not crying ur crying stop it
     
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  11. Jack Parkman

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    There’s a room that goes over every name of each person killed and some have a short memory about them from a loved one they play

    It’s crushing
     
  12. Fudd VanVleet

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    I went to school in Princeton, NJ where it was pretty common for kids parents to commute to NYC for work. We were all watching the news in the student center and I was standing right next to this girl named Kate when she got a call from her dad to say goodbye. Brutal.
     
  13. herb.burdette

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    I was working at the time. The internet effectively shut down. It was like how Rivals used to get overwhelmed on signing day, a million times worse.

    We watched live network coverage on a TV with an antenna in a conference room, flipping between ABC, NBC, and CBS. Eventually, we got a cable feed in a different room and everyone went home by 11:00 because work stopped.
     
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  14. BlazingRebel

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    I want to go to the museum, I went to the memorial a few months after it opened, and my family and I went to NYC for the day in 2002 they had the beginnings of a small museum there, and we got to walk along the scaffolding around Ground Zero we could see the two holes where the towers stood and they were still cleaning up debris. No words
     
  15. C A N E

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    At your moms house lol
     
  16. C A N E

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    The 9/11 museum was one of the most mesmerizing ones I’ve been too. I had never been to NYC until 3ish years ago and you never really realize how fucking huge those buildings were until your next to the current WTC.
     
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  18. HotMic

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    :meh:
     
  19. Frank Martin

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    Today is the first day kids who were born after 9/11 can enlist in the military.

    One day soon we'll have a soldier in a FOB his or her grandfather built in Afghanistan.
     
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    I like how this douche uses post event deaths in Maria but not post event deaths from sickness of 9/11 victims
     
  21. AIOLICOCK

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    It's revealing that that's what you took away from that
     
  22. C A N E

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    Hurrr durr
     
  23. AIOLICOCK

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    Most reasonable thing you've said itt
     
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    "This is unprecedented devastation," Gov. Ricardo Rossello told reporters.
    But the new death toll is only an approximation, not a concrete list of names, Rossello said.
    Moving forward, he said, officials will continue to investigate deaths from the storm and refine the official tally.
    "This number can change," he said. "It could be less, it could be more, as time passes."

    :meh:

    Sad for the victims of PR. But let’s not pretend people “remember” hurricane Andrew
     
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  26. C A N E

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    Is there ever not a thread where alecock is a fucking embarrassment
     
  27. ShuPoor

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    Which group of approximately three thousand deaths are you directing this at
     
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    That’s not even a real number currently
     
  29. HotMic

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    No thanks. You have a good one friend.
     
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    I was in college and was only in class MWF that semester, so I was at work sanding down some wood floors in a house my boss had bought.
    Running the sander was loud so I didnt even have a radio turned on.
    I guess somewhere around 9am I ran back to the shop to get something, the old work truck only had an AM radio, and was on the local sports talk. Right as I pulled back up to the house, I remember hearing the talking guys say something like "this is weird, we just got a note that a plane has hit a building in new york"
    I barely thought anything of it and went back to work.
    I didn't find out how big of a deal it was for several hours, after everything had fallen.
     
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  32. ShuPoor

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    I liked it more pre edit
     
  33. Talking Head

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    Holy shit. What'd she do after the call? Hell what'd y'all do?
     
  34. HotMic

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    I was going to make the point that everything doesn’t have to be black and white. This is TMB though, and we all know how that goes.

    Thinking his comment was lazy in no way minimalizes the tragedy and mishandling that was Maria. But please, feel free to use the “meh” emoji to interpret what you would like.
     
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  35. Fudd VanVleet

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    There were a couple of kids who had parents die. Another kid named Colin too.

    My dad worked in New Brunswick, NJ at the time and you could see the smoke and ash eminating from 30+ miles away.
     
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  37. Jake Scott

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    I was a Sr in HS walking into my US Military History class that was taught by a retired and highly decorated marine. He was a hardcore, no bullshit teacher we all loved.

    He was in the hall shoving people and yelling to get into their class rooms.

    He turned on the TV and for the entire hour and a half class we watched the coverage in total silence. He stood the entire time right at the TV with his arms crossed and tears streaming down his face.

    I remember it like it was yesterday and I can still see myself as I sat there in the fucking desk.
     
  38. buy_dont_lease

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    I was a sophomore in HS. Heard on the way to school on the radio that the first plane had it. My recollection is that at the time I assumed it was a small personal aircraft (not sure if that was my assumption or the news report). Before my first period class I learned that the second plane hit. During my second period English class we watched the CNN feed. The school district cut the feed immediately after The South Tower fell. With no access to news, some pretty wild rumors spread that day. My football coaches decided to have practice that afternoon, so I didn't get home until late that evening.

    My dad was travelling on business at the time (and wound up being stranded for a few days until air travel resumed) and my uncle had been working in the WTC on a contract basis at that time (I learned later that day he never made it into the city that day before the planes hit). I remember my mom stuck a Stouffer's lasagna into the oven that night and talked to me and my younger sister about how everything was going to be OK, dad would be home in a few days, and etc.

    I went for a run this morning and lost it like I normally do on this day thinking about the above, and all the ways in which the world changed for me and everyone as a result of the attacks. It's a lot process 17 years later, and seems like it gets even more complicated to conceptualize as time goes on, not less.
     
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  40. Talking Head

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    Hey guys 8,000 people died in a hurricane that hit Galveston, Texas on September 8, 1900.
     
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  41. ShuPoor

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    They were Texans, so whatever
     
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  42. Bo Pelinis

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    For as much grief as we give Trump for not tweeting about disasters until late in the game, you sure don’t hear anyone give McKinley shit for not tweeting about Galveston.
     
  44. herb.burdette

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    We should use every thread to bitch about non-related things in the thread and then bitch about it.

    There is a time and place, and probably a thread to bitch about the administration’s handling of Puerto Rico.

    This isn’t it.
     
  45. Lucky24Seven

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    Freshman in HS in between classes going to Biology. Had a friend tell me that someone set off explosives at the WTC. Was in the dark the rest of the day about what was going on because the school maintained silence on the subject and continued as if nothing happened. Found out the whole story after school on my way to the locker room to change into football stuff when the coaches filled us in and gave us the evening off. Dad was stuck in Vegas at the time and ended up having to rent a car and drive cross country to get back home.
     
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    Just sat next to a table of three severe burn victims at O’Hare airport bar. One guy had prosthetic arms covered in Captain America animations and was wearing a “firefighters burn institute” tee shirt. I didn’t put it all together until they were gone and then it got dusty as fuck at my table for one. Looked for him in the terminal to at least say I appreciate his sacrifices but they were already gone. Dude is a real life hero. Pissed I didn’t pick up their tab. I was too busy fucking with inconsequential work shit and not living in the present.
     
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    Not sure if anyone else has felt this way and the fountains probably drown out a lot of the background noise but it’s always weird/awesome to me how quiet it feels around the memorial.

    I spent probably 3 hours in the museum and it felt like 10 minutes. Could’ve spent all day there
     
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    i have only been once but all the few blocks around the site seemed eerily quiet compared to other parts of the city
     
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