I really don't think that 115-111 card is as outrageous as people are pretending it is. Mexican judges in particular love aggression and fury was doing a jumbo sized version of john ruiz's hit and hold.
Boxing elitists are so fucking annoying. People were saying the same shit when Tyson was fighting (not comparing the two btw). Just go ahead and whine about millennials while you’re at it.
My main issue is having Wilder up going into the 12th, which didn't seem to be a thought in anyone's head. But besides that, I agree. The early rounds were empty enough for those and the knockdowns to get someone to even.
the lack of talent in the HW division has been pretty bad for a long time. Wilder is a tremendous athlete with dynamite power but he's not a real boxer. Fury is a cocaine powered giant john ruiz and joshua is a roided to the gills weightlifter with a suspect chin.
Which makes them all flawed and fun and entertaining. The HW division hasn't had those combo of descriptors in a while.
There was a bunch of them. They just all got ground into dust by wladimir and vitali until they eventually aged out. There really isn't a whole lot of skill/talent difference between the likes of wilder/fury/joshua and sam peter/nikolai valuev/david haye/ the good version of povetkin
But that's kind of the point. Wlad and Vitali weren't fun or exciting at all. This group of HW's is, and they're all going to fight each other. Instead of one fun fighter vs. a buzzsaw Klitchsko, you get two fun and flawed guys fighting each other.
Just proved to me AJ is still the best. Also that Mexican card having the 1st and 3rd to wilder is asinine
it really isn't. showboating and feinting aren't scorable factors. wilder bossed him around the ring and landed the sharper punches and landed to the body too. if you're going to fight like floyd mayweather, you need to score like floyd mayweather. Floyd does not waste any punches on pitty-pat jabs like fury does. There wasn't much difference between rounds 1-3. You can justify giving any of them to either fighter.
That may be true, but Wilder is not a good boxer. That is indisputable. Such is majority of current HWT division.
He was trying to be entertaining and loose, which cost him several rounds. He comes in more determined and better shape next time and we’ll have a tremendous fight. Wilder has him figured out now.
Boxing decisions are literally the worst thing in sports. Need to go full on human cock fight and fight until one man can’t continue
Adonis Stevenson in critical condition and intensive care at a Quebec hospital after getting knocked out by Gvozdyk last night. Awful. https://www.boxingscene.com/adonis-stevenson-remains-hospitalized-intensive-care--134254
I would pay a lot of money to watch AJ fight each of those guys* * If I didn't have Google fiber which doesn't do ppv sports.
Fight was awful and both fighters are an embarrassment to heavyweight champions of past eras. Fury makes Gerry Cooney look like Ali. Wilder might be the most wildly inaccurate puncher I’ve ever seen.
Wilder is bad. If someone can avoid the one big punch then Wilder will not win. I have not seen anyone avoid the punch yet though. I thought Fury was going to last night.
Agreed but it was still entertaining. Can’t really blame either fighter for not wanting to take a hit. The rematch will be interesting because I think Wilder will be more offensive, but I think Fury will be more prepared. Not sure if Fury will be as open/reckless next time.
boxing can be so pathetic As Bloody Elbow points out, one judge actually made an error when tallying his score for the fight. That judge was Robert Tapper, who tallied his score as 114-110 in favor of Fury. If he had done his math properly, however, he would have actually come up with a less dominant score of 114-112 for Fury.
Judges =/= boxing. The sport is great. This would be akin to saying football sucks because refs make stupid calls.
I'm having a hard time getting worked up over it because the draw literally hurts nothing. Both Wilder and Fury acquitted themselves well. We either get a rematch, or we get one of them vs. Joshua and the other probably fights Ortiz or Dillian Whyte, etc. We're guaranteed entertaining fights in the HW division.
I’m not as mad as I usually am with the scorecards. I had 113-113. I think the one judge having 7-5 wilder is the issue. But if it’s Fury/AJ in London, I definitely will pay whatever to go
press conference for Stevenson, he should get out of this alive but he won’t be the same. They can’t guarantee anything though.
Just awful. Hope he comes out ok. And while it’s a secondary concern, also hope he comes through for Gvozdyk’s sake. Sergey Kovalev has talked about how much killing a man in the ring haunted and traumatized him for years after. Gvozdyk has such a bright future, I’d hate to see him have to carry that burden with him.
Sources have informed ESPN.com that WBO junior middleweight titlist, Jaime Munguia (31-0, 26 KO), 22, will be making his 2019 debut on January 26 in Houston, Texas. He will be facing Takeshi Inoue (13-0-1, 7 KO), 29, from Japan. Munguia, recently signed an extension that will see him be co-promoted by Golden Boy Promotions, alongside his lead promoter, Zanfer Promotions. This bout will be streamed by DAZN, which entered into a deal with Golden Boy for 10 cards a year, including shows that feature Canelo Alvarez, who fights next week at Madison Square Garden against WBA "regular" super middleweight champion Rocky Fielding.
you know what I meant....besides, at the end of a football game the refs don't tell you who won. judges play a major role in the sport.
Here's what we've got today. A great card on ESPN, and the final HBO Boxing card ever. First up: ESPN, 9:00 pm ET, Vasiliy Lomachenko vs Jose Pedraza, Isaac Dogboe vs Emanuel Navarrete, Teofimo Lopez vs Mason Menard. Lomachenko and Pedraza are unifying two titles at 135 pounds, while Dogboe is defending his 122-pound title in the co-feature. Lopez is a good prospect and Menard a perfectly nice test for him at this stage Loma is one of the best in the business, Dogboe is a rising star and Lopez is one of the biggest prospects in the game. Great card.
And then: HBO / Azteca (MEX), 10:20 pm ET, Cecilia Braekhus vs Aleksandra Magdziak-Lopes, Juan Francisco Estrada vs Vincent Mendez, Claressa Shields vs Femke Hermans. This is how boxing ends on HBO. Not with a bang, but with a whimper — with due respect to the fighters, including a pair of current world champions in Braekhus and Shields, and a top super flyweight contender in Estrada. It’s a card they’ve barely promoted existing, just like their last few lame duck cards since the announcement was made that the network was getting out of the boxing game. But we’ll be here to say goodbye to a 45-year-old institution.
I do. I've been impressed with the service and quality so far. It's going to be a must-have for boxing fans I think. Even just this month, they've got a Kell Brook tuneup fight today, Canelo next week with Tevin Farmer and David LeMieux on the undercard, then Dillian Whyte-Dereck Chisora in a HW fight the week after that.
Thanks. I need to follow the lineups more closely before taking the leap. I’m hesitant to spend money on yet another service. Been holding out on espn+ too