Official Canon Star Wars Thread: UNLIMITED POWER!

Discussion in 'The Mainboard' started by Wu, May 31, 2016.

  1. Wu

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    “You need a teacher, I can’t teach you”

    “I will never train another generation of jedi”
     
  2. The Fuck Lion

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    Yeah, that is how I took that too.

    Luke is such a low key badass in this movie when you think about it. He was just not the type of badass Hamill or the fans wanted lol.
     
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  3. Truman

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    I feel like that is something that would come up in the commentary or something. I get how you could see it that way, but dont think it was the intention, or we'd know about it.

    Or I could be way wrong
     
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  4. Truman

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    Another random thought - in the deleted scene where the storm trooper recognizes Finn.

    A- that's Tom Hardy. Neat.
    B - He has a Southern/Western accent. I wonder why they chose that. In the Thrawn novel, his 2nd in command Eli had a similar accent. They made a point of it being from the outer regions, which is were the Empire/First Order retreated to after the battle of Jakku. Im wondering if that was intentional to show that character was also from the outer regions.

    Or maybe Tom Hardy was using creative license.

    :comicbookguy:
     
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  5. Wu

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    I love Hardy but glad that scene was cut. It was really rough.
     
  6. Artoo

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    Yup. Everything leading up to that was good. The little speedwalk chase built some nice tension. Even having the troopers get on was good. Then he started talking and it was so awful.
     
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  7. Truman

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    Scenes that should have been left in

    Finn exposing Phasma.
    That shot of Luke mourning Han/crying then jumping to a shot of Leia upset.
     
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  8. Wu

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    Also, I think princes William and Harry were two of the stormtroopers in that Hardy elevator scene
     
  9. lazy bum

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    I can understand why all the other scenes were left out, but I can't for the life of me figure out why he took the Luke mourning Han scene.
     
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  10. Wu

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    The shot of phasma’s face under the smashed helmet reminded me of Vader during the Ahsoka fight in rebels
     
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  11. CF3234

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    time to take up a collection
     
  12. Artoo

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    The wife is only 3.5 episodes away from Twlight of the Apprentice. I’m very excited.
     
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  13. Artoo

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    Man, I completely forgot that we only met Maul one episode before TotA. Well, really Twilight is a 2 part episode, so we meet him IN TotA.
     
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  14. Mr Bulldops

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    for those of us that have watched the auralnauts' dubs, episode 6 is out finally

     
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  16. Poe Dameron

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    As much as I love Star Wars as most every fan's dream to make a Star Wars film, but I couldn't work for Lucasfilm because they'd micromanage everything into oblivion.
     
  17. Wu

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    It’s obvious they never had a plan for the sequel saga and it shows, regardless of what you thought about TFA or TLJ

    Just have to hope they’ve learned and adapted
     
  18. lazy bum

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    yeah, this is by far my biggest disappointment with the new movies. I had assumed they had a blueprint to follow that allowed for each movie to have its own individual feel/differences but that the story would be following set out signposts to a finish. Instead, we're getting a make it up as we go now bouncing back and forth between two different lead guys and there's a good chance it feels disjointed in the end.
     
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  19. Nostradumass

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    I don't understand the criticism. The original trilogy was made up as it went.

    Most stories are, in fact.

    Some of the best serialized TV shows were made up as it went, most famously (recently) Breaking Bad. Another good example is Star Trek DS9 and (the polarizing but I loved it) Battlestar Galactica.

    It's actually really rare to have a long and rigid outline you follow. It's too risky outside of a book series because actors may die, money may run out, fan support may shift from one character to another, etc.

    It was revolutionary when Babylon 5 did it and even they suffered toward the end with just those problems.

    And besides, even if the Sequel Trilogy was totally outlined ahead of time, it'd be out the window now that we lost Carrie
     
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  20. Wu

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    At least with the OT there was the creative throughline of George.

    Honestly it comes down to Kathleen Kennedy being more of a suit than a creative. There’s no Feige for SW.
     
  21. Nostradumass

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    True on both fronts
     
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  22. lazy bum

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    Lucas had an outline for the OT (and supposedly the entire saga), he was just sort of constantly changing and condensing it or moving things up and down the timeline. There was, at least, thought about how things done now may affect everything already planned afterwards.
     
  23. Nostradumass

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    He really had little more than what became A New Hope, plus the barest of an idea of how Palpatine rose to power and that Vader was a former Jedi gone bad. The clone wars as Palpatine's puppet plan, Anakin = Vader, all of that came later. There was no sequel in mind after A New Hope. The story literally ended with the blowing up of the death star. He left himself open to tell more stories (Vader survived, the Empire was still alive, etc), but there was no more story written or even outlined.

    When the movie became the biggest film ever and sequels were greenlit, he mapped out...the next movie. But even then things like Vader being Luke's dad and Leia being Luke's sister came during development of ESB and ROTJ respectively. The only thing he knew when he plotted out Empire was "the heroes lose, han is kidnapped, luke trains with an old hermit Jedi, then gets his butt kicked by Vader). All he had in mind for the third movie was "rescue han, leave to go looking for the other lost jedi." Around 1981-82 when he really started breaking the Revenge of the Jedi story, he thought about episodes 7-9 as being about Luke building up a new group of jedi, fighting a final battle to defeat the empire, and ending with a fight in the emperor's lava filled throne room, fighting and saving his father and killing the emperor for good.

    But he got old, rich and divorced and instead of doing like George Martin and living in denial, he said "no, I don't want to keep doing this." and just shoved movies 6-9 into movie 6 and called it a day.

    Star Wars' success is 50% George, and 50% Kurtz/Kasdan/Marcia

    (source: "The Secret History of Star Wars" which every fan should read)
     
  24. Wu

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    His wife salvaging ANH through the editing process goes under publicized
     
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  25. Nostradumass

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    She really made the movie go from laughable bomb to blockbuster.

    Can you imagine Luke doing the trench run with all the drama and tension...firing toward the exhaust port...

    and missing?!
     
  26. Wu

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  27. Truman

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    We got trailers for trailers now? lol
     
  28. Wu

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    It’s a thing, really annoying

    I’m guessing tickets go on sale tomorrow. At least that’s usually how these things go
     
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  30. Artoo

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    Yes.
     
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  31. SugarShaun

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    I’m spent
     
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  32. Codename Duchess

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    Really like that Chewie age joke
     
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  33. lazy bum

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    Love the music in the Solo trailers so far.
     
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  34. Pelican

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    Trailer didn't blow me away but I will watch and surely enjoy.
     
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  35. Wu

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    Hello yes of course I’m in
     
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  36. The Walrus

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    Better trailer than the last one. Still not sold on the lead, but I'll still be there opening night.
     
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    Fully torqued.
     
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  38. Wu

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    Chewbacca pretty much piling driving someone to death

    Yes
     
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  39. Celemo

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    Kendall: wait...Troy in space?!?!?
     
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  40. WhiskeyDelta

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    “I have a really good feeling about this!” Had me dying.
     
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  41. portlandspartan

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    Movie can be complete garbage, but if we get just a single scene of Chewy just wrecking shit it'll be worth it.
     
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  42. Wu

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    Coming to xbone backwards compatible on 4/26

    Battlefront
    Battlefront II,
    Republic Commando
    Jedi Starfighter
    Knights of the Old Republic II
     
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  43. Popovio

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    I finally saw The Last Jedi. Visually stunning, but everything else was bleh. When Leia started floating back to the ship after being in vacuum for however fucking long that was, I laughed out loud in disbelief.
     
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  44. Wu

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    (Extremely George Lucas voice) it’s like poetry, it rhymes

     
  45. Nostradumass

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    wow