Official Chicago Blackhawks Thread: RIP Blackhawks 2008-2016

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  1. Bankz

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    Yes because our pressing need is more scoring....

    Need 2 or maybe 3 new defense men
     
  2. Illinihockey

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    My idea is to trade Gustfasson for a top NHL ready prospect. I know thats easier said than done, but we've seen it happen before and a 60 pt defenseman that is super cheap could be very enticing to a team.
     
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  3. visa

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    Q hired by panthers. No real surprise
     
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  4. Illinihockey

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    Moved up from 12 to 3. Was hoping we’d get top 2
     
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  5. Bankz

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    Top 3 after almost blowing the tank... i'll take it
     
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  6. The Banks

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    So you going D at 3?
     
  7. Bankz

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    Could see one of Kakko or Podkolzin being selected with the pick
     
  8. Illinihockey

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    I think so unless the rangers over think it and pass on Kakko
     
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    Kakko isn't getting passed up, there's a better chance he goes 1 than 3. So one vote for Podko one for Byram?
     
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  10. Illinihockey

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  11. Bankz

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    I would prefer Podko.. But I wouldn't be upset in any way if they go Bryram.

    I trust Stan to get the pick right...
     
  12. Fran Tarkenton

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    Dont want to go D

    Cozens seems like the surest pick, Podko most upside. Lets hope the rangers fuck this up and pass on Kakko.
     
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  13. Illinihockey

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    Our defense is still awful and I’m not sure we have a sure fire 1 yet.
     
  14. Bankz

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    our best prospects are d-men who are likely going to be on the roster next year...
     
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  15. Fran Tarkenton

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    Yea I still dont know why you were in favor of the Boquist pick last year. Was at best going to take *years* to develop physically, unlike Bouchard. And Im not sure he ever projected as a sure fire 1D. (I wanted Wahlstrom)

    Stan has used last 3 first rounders on D. Can't keep neglecting Forwards and expect someone to emerge in the Top 6. Lot harder to find elite Scoring than Defense. Our D prospect pool is far superior to what we have in the Fwd pipeline. Given that context, would be malpractice with a Top-3 pick to go back to D given the high end potential of some of the forwards.

    Id get the argument at #3 if we are talking a deep draft with an otherwise #1 overall type that slips bc teams value C/Wing over Defense i.e. a Noah Hanifin.
     
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  16. Fran Tarkenton

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    Get someone with scoring ability, at most, 1 CHL/AHL year left to develop + provide some juice to the back half of the Toews/Kane era.

    Ideally someone that can take the torch eventually. Should be able to find a franchise type talent.
     
  17. The Banks

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    Disagree
     
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  18. Illinihockey

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    Bovqist isn't going to be on the roster next year. Ian Mitchell isn't going to be on the roster next year. Jokaharju will be on the roster but to me he doesn't profile as a top pairing defenseman. Even if he did, you draft BPA at 3
     
  19. Illinihockey

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    100%. Its really hard to find a top pairing defense. Meanwhile you had 45 guys put up 30 goals this year. Fuck look at the Hawks who had 2 40 goal scorers and a 30 goal scorer and sucked ass because they had no defense.
     
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  20. Illinihockey

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    Except they have. In the last few years, Stan has added Panarin, Debrincat, and Strome without using a first round pick on any of them. The Hawks were 9th in the league in goals scored. Had they had Strome and Perilini at the start of the year they might have finished top 5. Meanwhile they gave up the 2nd most goals in the league. That doesn't scream add an elite scorer to me.
     
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  21. Illinihockey

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    Going to be a very interesting summer for the Hawks. Ideally I wish they'd get Debrincat and Strome locked up to long term deals. I also wonder what Crawford would want for a 2 year extension. If the pick is Byram, I'd be very interested to know what the Hawks could get for Gustafsson. I would think a 60 point defesneman making next to nothing would bring back an elite forward prospect even if he's only under contract for one year. Either way the Hawks either need to extend him or move him before next season starts. Also very interested to see if Seabrook might be interested in playing in Florida. I don't know what it'd take to move him, probably something like 30%-50% retention and one of Jokaharju/Mitchell/Beaudin...I wouldn't give up Bovqist just to move him though. Losing Teuvo to move Bickell still stings.
     
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  22. Bankz

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    Gustafsson is so fucking poor defensively... Hopefully some idiot GM ignores that and we get a nice return
     
  23. Truman

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    Im eating lunch @ Just Salad in the Loop. Jamal Mayers sighting. Always forget how tiny some of these NHL players are.

    Youre welcome for this riveting story.
     
  24. Fran Tarkenton

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    Scott Powers in The Athletic mock draft (has Cozens going next at #4).

    No. 3. Chicago Blackhawks
    Vasili Podkolzin, RW, SKA-MHL

    June 24, 2001 | 6-foot-1 | 190 pounds

    Scott Powers: The first two picks in this draft are obvious. The third isn’t so much, but the Blackhawks will be more than happy to accept that challenge considering they finished with the 12th-worst record. Podkolzin has a lot going for him. He’s a power winger with skill, goal-scoring ability and a competitive edge. The Blackhawks don’t have a lot of size coming up in their pipeline, so he could fit a need too. The question will be how soon he’ll leave Russia for the NHL. He’s reportedly under contract with SKA for a few more years.

    Pronman’s take: In Podkolzin, Chicago gets a highly skilled, intelligent and competitive winger who can create and finish plays at a high level. The talent is first-line forward caliber. The main concern on Podkolzin is his contract (another two years in the KHL), and the team that has his rights (SKA). On talent, though, he would be the Blackhawks’ best prospect in a decade.
     
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  25. Illinihockey

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    While I agree, I've met Jamal Mayers a couple of times and I definitely wouldn't describe him as tiny. He is a damn handsome man though
     
  26. Illinihockey

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    I'd be happy with Podkolzin but not if he can't come over for 2 more years. Has to be guaranteed he's coming next season.
     
  27. Fran Tarkenton

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    Agree
     
  28. Fran Tarkenton

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    Ian Mitchell going back to Denver U

     
  29. Illinihockey

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    Don't like it and thats a bullshit excuse
     
  30. wes tegg

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    I think we could've beaten Calgary if we'd slipped in.
     
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