Official Cryptocurrency Thread: Skepticism to Speculation to FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!

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  1. Harrison Beck

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    How mad are you that you responded to a thread you never post in to ask if I’m mad?
     
  2. Lyrtch

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  3. Chumbolone

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    1) not paying super close attention this, reading every article, subtweet

    That said, I think the antipathy stems more from a feeling/impression that this story is being presented in support of a broader “crypto is a scam / people for what they had coming” narrative as opposed to focusing on a rogue sociopath degenerate who stole people’s money. Like Madoff’s story wasn’t reported/presented as an indictment against equity markets and def was more sympathetic to his victims - despite the underlying fundamental crookedness being similar between the two’s scams (nonsensical outlier returns with little info as to how they’re made).

    And I’m not saying it’s unfair or incorrect to draw conclusions and report these correlations between bad actors and their inherent ability to thrive in the crypto space, but those who are “true believers” prob feel slighted that it’s not being presented/reported as one off incidents/actions of each crook as they would be in regulated markets.
     
  4. user15000

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    Did you even read the article? Not a single mention of fraud or all the illegal shit he did. Talks about his effective altruism, his plans to give away billions, him stopping eating meat so he could stop harming animals. His collapse upending his philanthropic goals.

    it’s all bullshit.

    He never had those goals in the first place. He used all that nonsense to run a ponzi and defraud millions of people. The article is gross, and the fact you keep looking for an angle to defend the coverage is disgusting also.
     
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  7. Penguin The Duck

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    Nothing to see here please drive thru

    SBF.png
     
  8. BudKilmer

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    If someone stabbed this guy 59 times in his sleep, the world would be better.

    that’s my only take on this matter. Carry on with the pedantry
     
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    Lmbo at saylor calling out anyone.
     
  10. Bert Handsome

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    I'm a crypto skeptic an feel the same way.
     
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  11. Redav

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    He definitely should but also let me introduce you to our mostly terrible media. I also would not bet on a rich white guy receiving harsh punishment.
     
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  12. user15000

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    Lmao at you having no substantive critique of his point and going this route instead.
     
  13. Penguin The Duck

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    The idea of regulation and bailouts from our government is starting to sound promising

     
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  14. Lyrtch

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  15. user15000

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    Politicians on both sides received tens of millions of dollars from SBF and his top execs. The fact they haven’t returned that stolen money yet is bad. Same goes for all the non-profits sbf funded. It’s money stolen from customers.
     
  16. Penguin The Duck

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    It’s cute that he keeps trying though

     
  17. Lyrtch

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    What am I trying
     
  18. user15000

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    An actual decent article

     
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  19. Lyrtch

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    because the CFTC is largely toothless

    was a smart move to try to keep the dream casino alive longer by all the big crypto players
     
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  20. user15000

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    Look at that, we agree.
     
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  22. Penguin The Duck

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    No surprise a centralized exchange is crumbling while the decentralized exchanges like uni and sushiswap are holding up well with their native tokens and providing proof of reserves

    or to keep it simple don’t use centralized exchanges or leave your crypto on any exchange/website
     
  23. user15000

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    I don't disagree with the general point, but Blockfi isn't an exchange.
     
  24. Penguin The Duck

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    Good call out

    The general point is not your keys, not your wallet. Centralized platforms and VCs are the ones fumbling the bag
     
  25. Baseballman86

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    So is Coinbase the only big one left in the US?
     
  26. Arrec Bardwin

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    Kraken
     
  27. Harrison Beck

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  28. Penguin The Duck

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    Easiest to use
    Gemini is solid as well but I wouldn’t leave my funds on their sites
     
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  29. Penguin The Duck

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    Proof of reserves is the standard moving forward. It uses the blockchain to confirm the assets the exchange or platform has.

     
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  30. Harrison Beck

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    Heard there was some fuckery w Binance’s proof of reserves. What’s going on there?
     
  31. Penguin The Duck

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    On a plane right now. They announced their BTC reserves, I believe. And $2 billion in backup/secondary BTC reserves.

    I think they are working on ETH and other reserves on chain but I’m not sure of the issue.
     
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  32. user15000

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    Thread from Kraken founder largely summarizing the issues.
     
  33. southlick

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  34. user15000

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    Never heard of it.
     
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  35. Bert Handsome

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  36. Prospector

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    Two markets are hurting from the crypto collapse:

    • The resale market of premium cars: Resale value of a Mercedes Benz G-Wagon has fallen as much as 50%.
    • Miami’s club scene: Popular Miami night club e11even’s crypto transactions fell from $6M in 2021 to $10,000 in the past three months (99% drop).
     
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  37. dblplay1212

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    Was FTX one of the exchanges offering the crazy % returns? Like 15-20%?
     
  38. Arrec Bardwin

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    Also DoorDash drivers in Miami, Bahamas and Puerto Rico
     
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  39. Arrec Bardwin

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    Ironically no
     
  40. dblplay1212

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    I was listening to the Behind the Bastards podcast on FTX. The said they were doing 15% at one time but I can't find it. They were doing 8% this year though.

    https://www.investing.com/news/cryp...fered-8-interest-on-usd--btc-deposits-2942355



    nm found it, it was Alameda

    https://www.theblock.co/post/186187/alameda-promised-high-returns-with-no-risk-in-2018-pitch

    The 2018 Alameda deck shows the investment opportunity included a 15% annualized fixed rate loan, with higher rates available to investors willing to park more with the firm.

    "These loans have no downside — we guarantee full payment the principal and interest, enforceable under U.S. law and established by all parties' legal counsel," the deck reads.

    "We are extremely confident we will pay this amount. In the unlikely case where we lose more than 2% over a month we will give all investors the opportunity to recall their funds."

    The deck also boasted of Alameda's returns during the course of that year, which they claim clocked in more than 110% annualized returns between March to October 2018.
     
  41. Arrec Bardwin

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    Yeah that’s an Alameda deck from like 2019, pretty different for a trading firm to offering a number like that than an exchange. Offering it and claiming it’s risk free is hilariously stupid though.
     
  42. Bert Handsome

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    There are trading firms that produce that, but lol at calling it guaranteed. Every few years (even in normal times) one of them goes belly up - see Ronin and Infinium as recent examples.and the weren't trading made up funny money.
     
  43. user15000

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  44. Arrec Bardwin

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    Not only guaranteed but risk free.
     
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  45. Bert Handsome

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